what % of people match in their top 3?

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I remember reading on this forum that about 80% matching in the top 3, is there any truth to that?

my friend is freaking out and i just want to know if i told him the right thing.

 

[tch001]

I remember reading on this forum that about 80% matching in the top 3, is there any truth to that?

my friend is freaking out and i just want to know if i told him the right thing.

I think it really depends on the school. I know my class last year at a pretty good medical school did not have a super great match - about 10% didn't match at all and 30% didn't get their top 3 But I guess that means 60% got their top 3, so better than 50/50 chance? Right? RIGHT!??!?!

I might be going a little nuts waiting for match day.

 

[DrKnowLittle]

I think it really depends on the school

and the residency programs students at your school aim for. our rate of top 3, according to our dean, is much higher than the figure you just threw out, but i suspect it's because many of us choose to stay within the state or regionally. that was until this year, when about 8 out of the class of 72 stated they were hoping to stay in-state... so we'll see how that rate holds up.

this sounds really cheesy but my advice is just to plant your seeds (eras applications, travel expenses, time expenditures) where you think they will grow. sure, maybe they'll grow in a climate you wouldn't have thought they were equipped for (harvard and upenn, etc.) but i would put the bulk of my seeds in the ground where it's fertile, especially if matching top 3 is a big deal to you.

in my case, i was really happy with what many others consider middle of the road programs, or programs that some people in my specialty wouldn't even consider applying to. i happened to get a lot out of those interviews and feel like i found at least 8 great places to train. if i get my home program or better, heck, even a little worse, i'll be really happy.

 

[Eat Oatmeal]

I remember reading on this forum that about 80% matching in the top 3, is there any truth to that?

my friend is freaking out and i just want to know if i told him the right thing.

Look here. Page 37. http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsanddatasms2010.pdf

 

[lockjaw]

I remember reading on this forum that about 80% matching in the top 3, is there any truth to that?

my friend is freaking out and i just want to know if i told him the right thing.

I've heard 85% quoted quite a bit, but I don't know the actual source of that number, so I'd take it with a grain of salt.

 

[lockjaw]

Look here. Page 37. http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsanddatasms2010.pdf

I think you posted the wrong link - that's fellowship data.

 

[Eat Oatmeal]

I think you posted the wrong link - that's fellowship data.

Yeah you are right. I had the file saved on my comp. Here is the link, same page (pg 37). http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsanddata2010.pdf

 

[gutonc]

I remember reading on this forum that about 80% matching in the top 3, is there any truth to that?

my friend is freaking out and i just want to know if i told him the right thing.

100-X% where X is a variable from 0-100 based on specialty and qualifications.

Please note that these statistics have a SEM of +/- 100%.

 

[34140]

100-X% where X is a variable from 0-100 based on specialty and qualifications.

Please note that these statistics have a SEM of +/- 100%.

i'm trying to calm him down, but i can understand his nerves.


thanks so much Eat Oatmeal, i'll show him that. which will probably freak him out even more.

😳

thanks guys!

btw, hes from a carrib school, high double 99's first pass on all exams, interviewed at all Univ programs.

 

[kirbyross]

I've heard 85% quoted quite a bit, but I don't know the actual source of that number, so I'd take it with a grain of salt.

85% seems a little high to me.

Anybody know a ballpark of % of people matching in top 5?

I have the nrmp document, but I don't think it has total number of applicants/interviews/order of match at all.

Is this question just wishful thinking? Do these stats not even exist?

 

[NotAProgDirector]

85% seems a little high to me.

Anybody know a ballpark of % of people matching in top 5?

I have the nrmp document, but I don't think it has total number of applicants/interviews/order of match at all.

Is this question just wishful thinking? Do these stats not even exist?

Look at Figure 7

 

[snowkhat]

Not that it matters at this point. But I wonder how many whole-couples get in their top 3 or 4?

Also, I wish they'd break down the stats on DOs rather than lumping us with IMGs. We are way outnumbered and it skews the statistics.

 

[bel138]

Also, I wish they'd break down the stats on DOs rather than lumping us with IMGs. We are way outnumbered and it skews the statistics.

I totally agree with this. I like to think I have a better than 40% of simply matching SOMEWHERE.

 

[Gordon Sims]

Not that it matters at this point. But I wonder how many whole-couples get in their top 3 or 4?

Also, I wish they'd break down the stats on DOs rather than lumping us with IMGs. We are way outnumbered and it skews the statistics.

Stick to the D.O. match. Problem solved.

 

[snowkhat]

Stick to the D.O. match. Problem solved.

That's kinda snarky.

 

[Eat Oatmeal]

Stick to the D.O. match. Problem solved.

I am not taking sides on this but I would not be surprised to see the NRMP doing this purposefully as this is the MD match. On their website they state that they are willing to conduct research for appropriate organizations given that they pay the rate.

It may also be a mission statement type of thing. I am not in the mood to look though.

 

[TruthMD]

Not worth it. Best is how each individual does.

 

[notdeadyet]

I remember reading on this forum that about 80% matching in the top 3, is there any truth to that?

From which school and into which residency? Without those two pieces of information, any data is meaningless.

 

[Gordon Sims]

... I would not be surprised to see the NRMP doing this purposefully as this is the MD match ... It may also be a mission statement type of thing..

👍

 

[clement]

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They state that *this* is done because it is known that US MD's have a significantly higher match rate than independent applicants and therefore no need to separate the DO's from the IMGs. Is it ******ed and inaccurate to lump? Yes... Why not exclude the indeps completely if they're going by that line of reasoning? (i.e. what are they "proving" any further?).

I don't think anyone is, or needs to be, snarkalicious, as for the most part (say the one or two DO's that got allo derm spots last year), most US MD's don't need to resent osteo participation in the Match. I will say though, that if numbers are headed in the direction that they're headed, I think all US grads should have *some* sort of priority in the future, but don't want to be *that* guy right now.

 

[myPsychAlt]

well I just looked for my very generic American med school it was 56% got #1, 73% got top 2, and 81% top 3.

 

[Seldon1985]

How about for the ultra competitive fields like Rad Onc, Derm, Ophtho? What have you guys heard about the % getting their top 3? I'm going for Rad Onc...it's gonna be a tough week...

 

[snowkhat]

Agreed, there is an undertone of resentment that is a little unfounded. Osteopaths make up less than ten percent of the match (total). Lumping osteopaths into the independent category with nearly 11k IMGs (and growing) in the NRMP stats makes it difficult to see the actual performance within the match.

I just hope everyone gets what they want this coming match day and best of luck.

They state that *this* is done because it is known that US MD's have a significantly higher match rate than independent applicants and therefore no need to separate the DO's from the IMGs. Is it ******ed and inaccurate to lump? Yes... Why not exclude the indeps completely if they're going by that line of reasoning? (i.e. what are they "proving" any further?).

I don't think anyone is, or needs to be, snarkalicious, as for the most part (say the one or two DO's that got allo derm spots last year), most US MD's don't need to resent osteo participation in the Match. I will say though, that if numbers are headed in the direction that they're headed, I think all US grads should have *some* sort of priority in the future, but don't want to be *that* guy right now.

 

[Gordon Sims]

I just hope everyone gets what they want this coming match day and best of luck.

Seconded.

 

[NotAProgDirector]

well I just looked for my very generic American med school it was 56% got #1, 73% got top 2, and 81% top 3.

I didn;t think that type of data was available anymore. There were reports/concerns of deans pressuring students not to rank highly competitive programs high on their list, to improve their "top 3" match percentage. I thought the NRMP fixed that by refusing to release match statistics by school any more. I could be totally wrong.

 

[myPsychAlt]

I didn;t think that type of data was available anymore. There were reports/concerns of deans pressuring students not to rank highly competitive programs high on their list, to improve their "top 3" match percentage. I thought the NRMP fixed that by refusing to release match statistics by school any more. I could be totally wrong.

well this was data from 2009 (I'm pretty sure the ppt I pulled it from was prior to the 2010 match.) I'm going to guess this information was self-reported too. The school hasn't published the information outside of the student body here to my knowledge, and it was more for information purposes in a "what to expect from the residency application and match process" presentation from one of the student affairs deans here.