What Pharmacy Workplace has the BEST Maternity Leave and Benefits?

[Kirbypuff]

I'm a budding intern at Walgreen's (a place I really love working at), however, after speaking with a couple of pregnant pharmacists, I realized that the maternity leave is extremely short. Walgreen's gives 6 weeks of paid maternity leave, and 6 extra weeks of unpaid maternity leave if there are complications or if you had a C-section. If you do decide to take the extra 6 weeks off, you lose your store and you have to be relegated to the sea of floaters drifting all over your county.... while trying to raise a 5 week old infant.

Where do you work? What maternity leave policy to they have? Any downfalls of the workplace?

I've heard that in Canada, women get a year off. 🙄 <--that's me, looking longingly upward... at Canada.

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[tongiecc]

I hear that industry and Ins Co's have the best. My sister in law was a rep for Pfizer and though I don't know the exact # of days she had off for maternity leave it was a lot more than 6 wks (they also give paternity leave @ Pfizer as well for all those dads to be out there) the only problem there was that her job was constantly up in the air (she wasn't a pharmacist though, so a medical professional may have more staying power). I also know of some pharmacists that work for Ins companies and the like and it seems that their benefits are pretty awesome for the 'healthcare professional' positions. One last thought is that any form of gov't/institutional/academia position may also have great maternity benefits.

RE: canada; If you think Canada has it good you should check out France. My cousin just married a frenchman and they have it really good there from the basic employee's perspective (ie most jobs start w/ 4-5 wks vacation, new moms get a year off w/free childcare support, etc) but like everywhere it does have drawbacks (ie gov't getting to big to be sustained, taxes, etc)

J

 

[WVUPharm2007]

So if you have a child, you get a year off? What's to stop some lazy **** from just having a kid every 12 months?

 

[charfdorn]

I'm a budding intern at Walgreen's (a place I really love working at), however, after speaking with a couple of pregnant pharmacists, I realized that the maternity leave is extremely short. Walgreen's gives 6 weeks of paid maternity leave, and 6 extra weeks of unpaid maternity leave if there are complications or if you had a C-section. If you do decide to take the extra 6 weeks off, you lose your store and you have to be delegated to the sea of floaters drifting all over your county.... while trying to raise a 5 week old infant.

Where do you work? What maternity leave policy to they have? Any downfalls of the workplace?

I've heard that in Canada, women get a year off. 🙄 <--that's me, looking longingly upward... at Canada.

I'm pretty sure maternity leave falls under FMLA, which means not only are they required to give you 12 weeks off (they can be unpaid) but they have to let you come back at your old job, hours, pay, etc., at the end of it. I would interpret that as your old store, but maybe Walgreen's has a different idea of the law?

 

[WVUPharm2007]

After thiking about this. I agree. We need gov't madated 1-year off for having a child.

67% of grads are women. That means that there will be tons of lazy ass women that are too lazy to work not working. Which means there will be more demand. Which means that a man that isn't ever going to have a child will be like a golden ticket to steadiness. Which means I'll be in high demand. With all of these useless schools opening up creating a surplus, perhaps something artifical needs to be done to the market. This would work.

My opinion has changed. I now support, hell, 5 years off.

 

[FarscapeGirl]

So if you have a child, you get a year off? What's to stop some lazy **** from just having a kid every 12 months?

Umm... because having a kid is expensive and emotionally draining? It's not really a vacation to stay at home and raise a kid, unless you're willing to have a dead kid. Out of all my friends who have kids, the ones that have it the toughest are the ones that stay at home with them. Kids are constantly changing, so you never get used to them or have a steady schedule. They constantly need attention, and you really don't have any time for peace and quiet.

Really, the year-long maternity system works in Europe, and men get paternity leave there, too, I do believe. And most of Europe is actually having a population decrease, if I'm not mistaken.

 

[DrWrong]

After thiking about this. I agree. We need gov't madated 1-year off for having a child.

67% of grads are women. That means that there will be tons of lazy ass women that are too lazy to work not working. Which means there will be more demand. Which means that a man that isn't ever going to have a child will be like a golden ticket to steadiness. Which means I'll be in high demand. With all of these useless schools opening up creating a surplus, perhaps something artifical needs to be done to the market. This would work.

My opinion has changed. I now support, hell, 5 years off.

5 is a bad number....it's odd and just doesn't look all that cool. 6, on the other hand......

 

[Priapism321]

After thiking about this. I agree. We need gov't madated 1-year off for having a child.

67% of grads are women. That means that there will be tons of lazy ass women that are too lazy to work not working. Which means there will be more demand. Which means that a man that isn't ever going to have a child will be like a golden ticket to steadiness. Which means I'll be in high demand. With all of these useless schools opening up creating a surplus, perhaps something artifical needs to be done to the market. This would work.

My opinion has changed. I now support, hell, 5 years off.

A-****ing-men

 

[PharmaTope]

sometimes i wish i could get pregnant and get the hookup like everyone else does


section 8 housing, welfare, wick, free schooling with daycare. seriously wtf!

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Umm... because having a kid is expensive and emotionally draining? It's not really a vacation to stay at home and raise a kid, unless you're willing to have a dead kid. Out of all my friends who have kids, the ones that have it the toughest are the ones that stay at home with them. Kids are constantly changing, so you never get used to them or have a steady schedule. They constantly need attention, and you really don't have any time for peace and quiet.

Really, the year-long maternity system works in Europe, and men get paternity leave there, too, I do believe. And most of Europe is actually having a population decrease, if I'm not mistaken.

Well...the problem is that you did it to yourself and chose to have a child. But, hey, whatever. Preaching to the choir now. I've seen the light. **** it, take 18 years off for the life of the child's dependency.

 

[metrarx]

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[FarscapeGirl]

Well...the problem is that you did it to yourself and chose to have a child. But, hey, whatever. Preaching to the choir now. I've seen the light. **** it, take 18 years off for the life of the child's dependency.

Out of curiosity, who took care of you when you were a kid? Did your mom stay with you at all, or did she work full time? Did your parents plan to have you, or were you an accident?

These are kind of personal questions, and I don't really expect an answer. I'm just curious if the answers to these played a role in your anti-kid, anti-maternity leave stance.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Out of curiosity, who took care of you when you were a kid? Did your mom stay with you at all, or did she work full time? Did your parents want to have you, or were you an accident?

No idea to be honest. I don't remember much before kindergarten.

These are kind of personal questions, and I don't really expect an answer. I'm just curious if the answers to these played a role in your anti-kid, anti-maternity leave stance.

Ah, I see, playing Freud. Nah, my childhood has nothing to do with it. I was just your typical hilljack kid from the holler without a pot to piss in. I don't need your pity or your trite attempt to "understand me". I just am.

 

[metrarx]

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[Kirbypuff]

Thanks tongiecc

Walgreen's has a different idea of the law?

Perhaps either I've mistaken what the pregnant pharmacists have said or they have misinformed me, but that's what I got out of my conversations with them so everything I've said is hearsay.

Umm... because having a kid is expensive and emotionally draining? It's not really a vacation to stay at home and raise a kid, unless you're willing to have a dead kid.

Really, the year-long maternity system works in Europe, and men get paternity leave there, too, I do believe. And most of Europe is actually having a population decrease, if I'm not mistaken.

LOL. Thank you.

MY DREAM COME TRUE!!!

My opinion has changed. I now support, hell, 5 years off.

I knew you'd cop out 🙂


Personal Opinion:
#1) People who have over 4 kids tops per nuclear family should be quarantined on a farm.
#2) Men should give birth instead of women.

 

[FarscapeGirl]

Not cool 👎

Asking whether you were an accident or not is a valid question. Plenty of kids weren't planned but are still loved. One of my best friends was not planned, and her mother is not the biggest fan of kids, but my friend's mother still loves her daughter and grandson very much.

Edit: but I can see how I came across wrong, metrarx. I meant to ask whether or not WVU2007's parents planned to have him or if he was an accident, not whether or not they wanted to have him. I just changed it.

 

[FarscapeGirl]

No idea to be honest. I don't remember much before kindergarten.



Ah, I see, playing Freud. Nah, my childhood has nothing to do with it. I was just your typical hilljack kid from the holler without a pot to piss in. I don't need your pity or your trite attempt to "understand me". I just am.

No pity here. Just a scientific curiosity as to why some people want kids and some people don't.

I really don't care whether or not you want kids. If some people don't have kids, it helps make up for the gigantic families some people have.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

I knew you'd cop out 🙂

Not quite...more of a Swiftian argument...A Modest Proposal style...

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Just a scientific curiosity as to why some people want kids and some people don't.

Go read some Sartre...then some Marcus Aurelius. Shake 'em up and see what falls out. I call it Existential stoicism. My personal life philosophy I invented.

 

[Kirbypuff]

Not quite...more of a Swiftian argument...A Modest Proposal style...

Yuck. Elitist. Please stop talking like that. Barf. Normal English without insertions of how well read you are please. Thank you.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Yuck. Elitist. Please stop talking like that. Barf. Normal English without insertions of how well read you are please. Thank you.

I'm a ****ing hilljack from West Virginia. If you aren't as well read as me, I pity you. Everyone knows A Modest Proposal...you know...potatos...famine...eating children...tongue in cheek...**** was hilarious...

But what I was going to do was show the irony of how the womens' rights movement created a society where women could have careers...and with that power...they choose to take a year off and be a housewife...the more things progress the more they stay the same, huh?

 

[Kirbypuff]

I'm a ****ing hilljack from West Virginia. If you aren't as well read as me, I pity you. Everyone knows A Modest Proposal...you know...potatos...famine...eating children...tongue in cheek...**** was hilarious...

Everyone speaks their thoughts from whatever they've read, but not everyone drops the Title & Author bomb. There are plenty of perfectly good English words to describe any complex thought.

But what I was going to do was show the irony of how the womens' rights movement created a society where women could have careers...and with that power...they choose to take a year off and be a housewife...the more things progress the more they stay the same, huh?

It's not black and white. Women are not just like men, we are different and we want different things. We didn't fight for rights to be just like men, we wanted full rights equal to men but suited for women. Our society is still so washed up with Male-centric thought that some people don't realize what a woman's full rights ought to be. I can't speak on behalf of every woman, but for me, I definitely want a career and I definitely want children and I want some decent balance between both. And definitely I don't want to be psycho caffeinated soccer mom. I'm glad the women of the past fought for our rights to work. However, the rights that we've accomplished are just a prototype. There are still kinks that need to be worked out. I plan to work part time while I have small children and when they all graduate elementary school, I'm going to explode in my career. So that's why I'm searching now before I even start my PharmD education, what company has maternity plans worthy of MY talent.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

It's not black and white. Women are not just like men, we are different and we want different things. We didn't fight for rights to be just like men, we wanted full rights equal to men but suited for women.

Bull****. Kind of. The shades of gray thing I agree with...but I disagree with the further logical. Gender roles are societal constructs in and of themselves. Any concept of what you think a woman wants is just a societal construct. Feminists obviously want to alter ours...but they want to alter it in a way that adds to the rights women get, yet there is no counter action on their to remove the positive rights they were afforded over men. It's what I call the "we want our cake and eat it, too" school of feminism. Essentially, you want "equality" in the sense that you want all of the rights men had back in 18-dickity-do....but also the **** from 18-dickity-do that were the added societal perks of being a woman. Nah...**** that. You're a human. I don't give a **** if you are a he, she, it, whatever...either you are useful or not. And a worker that isn't working is useless.

Our society is still so washed up with Male-centric thought that some people don't realize what a woman's full rights ought to be.

So you are apparently now the all-knowing moral compass of the universe vis-a-vis gender roles. Clearly, because you know what women "ought" to be entitled to. How about you just write out a detailed thesis on what these rights should be.

I can't speak on behalf of every woman, but for me, I definitely want a career and I definitely want children and I want some decent balance between both.

Nobody said you couldn't...but as a person that doesn't want children, I find the idea that the extra effort I put into my career should be put on hold because someone else wants to have a child annoying at best. Why should my extra dedication to work not be rewarded?

And definitely I don't want to be psycho caffeinated soccer mom. I'm glad the women of the past fought for our rights to work. However, the rights that we've accomplished are just a prototype. There are still kinks that need to be worked out.

Like erasing the inequalities men face, too? Oh, wait, feminist, right, you don't give a **** about men, I forgot.

Any and all extra "help" men ever got have been removed...yet I don't see any women that have to register for a compulsory military draft. I could be selected to go to war where I could be killed...yet women can't. THAT is the epitome of inequality and the premiere example of such in the US...there is zip, zilch, nada that women have in comparison...the LEGAL requirement of only men...and it still exists in law. Right now, men suffer more inequality than women. 50 years ago, sure, women suffered...but since then, the teeter-totter of equality has shifted in the favor of women...and they haven't even noticed it. They are too used to being told that they should think the world hates them that they haven't even noticed that girls have surpassed boys in educational success. Yet, what do you know, I've never seen a feminist address this alarming trend in the dumbification of men over the last few decades. Why? Because they are feminists...just look at the word...if you are about equality, you need to be called humanists or some ****...

I plan to work part time while I have small children and when they all graduate elementary school, I'm going to explode in my career.

What makes you think you will "explode". There will be people with more experience that didn't work part time. Do you think you'll just magically beat them with girl power? Unless you are incredibly talented...and I can tell right now, you are probably going to overrate your own talents based on how awesome you think you are for no apparent reason...or unless your IQ is like 170 and you're not telling me...you will and should be surpassed by a person that is more dedicated to work than you. Unless by explode, you mean "work twice as much". And if that's what you mean...ok, sure, you could do that. But, like I said before, I'm not sure why I'm complaining...the less women with kids work, the more demand there will be...which means I'll get paid more...maybe I should just enjoy that part of it...

Of course climbing up the command chain in retail pharmacy isn't exactly difficult, so if you really wanted to be a DM of Walgreens or something equally as soul crushing, I'm sure it probably isn't that hard to do. It's not like the best and brightest go into retail. It's like being the smartest kid on the short bus. Now if you work part time, then become a tenured professor somewhere or a clinical director somewhere within a few years...yeah, I'd be impressed with that. Of course that isn't possible...but whatever...

 

[PharmPrincess]

C'mon, that's being a bit harsh. If you and your wife decide to have a kid, wouldn't you want her to have some time off? Sure, a year is excessive, but I think ~12 weeks is reasonable.

Plus a woman who works retail and has to stand for 10-12 hours a day, postpartum, that can be some hard ****.

Don't be hatin' on procreation, we need more pharmacists

Finally, acknowledgement. I just think deep down WVUPharm2007 is just jealous or something is up his @$$ cuz his comments are just damn annoying. (and yes, WVU, i understand u can have an opinion, and it's the internet and bla bla bla and all that good stuff, but really ur just a fugly troll)

Kirbypuff, i luv ur comments!

 

[Kirbypuff]

Bull****. Kind of. The shades of gray thing I agree with...but I disagree with the further logical. Gender roles are societal constructs in and of themselves. Any concept of what you think a woman wants is just a societal construct. And what feminists are trying to do is alter it...duh. But they want to just alter it in a way that adds the rights they get, yet there is no counter action on their to remove the positive rights they were afforded. It's what I call the "we want our cake and eat it, too" school of feminism. Essentially, you want "equality" in the sense that you want all of the rights men had back in 18-dickity-do....but also the **** from 18-dickity-do that were the added societal perks of being a woman. Nah...**** that. You're a human. I don't give a **** if you are a he, she, it, whatever...either you are useful or not. And a worker that isn't working is useless.

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Women and men are only hormones apart during our neonatal stages of life. But societal construct is REAL. Legos were my favorite toy but I hid them from my friends when I was four because I felt ashamed of it, and I pretended to like pink, when green was actually my favorite color. I think love/acceptance >> truth/reality. Even if you know the truth, sometimes we all play by the rules of society, and stick ourselves somewhere in the gradient between totally male and totally female. If you want to bring it down to pure science, the real difference between male and female is the balance between testosterone and estrogen (and other hormones). Since a male has more testosterone his physique makes him more suitable for war. And since a female has more estrogen/progesterone/etc her physique makes her more suitable for getting pregnant. Perhaps gender roles were built from that. I think we're both preaching to the choir, but coming from different paths.

So you are apparently now the all-knowing moral compass of the universe vis-a-vis gender roles. Clearly, because you know what women "ought" to be entitled to. How about you just write out a detailed thesis on what these rights should be.

I followed that by saying that I can't speak for all women didn't I?

Nobody said you couldn't...but as a person that doesn't want children, I find the idea that the extra effort I put into my career should be put on hold because someone else wants to have a child annoying at best. Why should my extra dedication to work not be rewarded?

Why would your career be put on hold because of someone else? If not having a child balances you and what you want out of life, that's great. But why complain about someone who believes that having a child will balance their life? What reward are you looking for?

Like erasing the inequalities men face, too? Oh, wait, feminist, right, you don't give a **** about men, I forgot.

Any and all extra "help" men ever got have been removed...yet I don't see any women that have to register for a compulsory military draft. I could be selected to go to war where I could be killed...yet women can't. THAT is the epitome of inequality and the premiere example of such in the US...there is zip, zilch, nada that women have in comparison...the LEGAL requirement of only men...and it still exists in law. Right now, men suffer more inequality than women. 50 years ago, sure, women suffered...but since then, the teeter-totter of equality has shifted in the favor of women...and they haven't even noticed it. They are too used to being told that they should think the world hates them that they haven't even noticed that girls have surpassed boys in educational success. Yet, what do you know, I've never seen a feminist address this alarming trend in the dumbification of men over the last few decades. Why? Because they are feminists...just look at the word...they need to be humanists...

What have YOU done to help the dumbification of men over the last few decades? Where's your humanist crusade?

I advocate male kindergarten teachers. I think they provide a sort of father figure for many young children who grow up with single mothers.

I would rather have 100% volunteered soldiers regardless of gender. But if it came down to compulsory drafting, I would prefer drafting based on body structure. No small framed soldiers please.

I just realized that you're creating a strawman argument because you're assuming that I hate men.

What makes you think you will "explode". There will be people with more experience that didn't work part time. Do you think you'll just magically beat them with girl power? Unless you are incredibly talented...and I can tell right now, you are probably going to overrate your own talents based on how awesome you think you are for no apparent reason...unless your IQ is like 170 and you're not telling me...you will and should be surpassed by a person that is more dedicated to work than you. Unless by explode, you mean "work twice as much". And if that's what you mean...ok, sure, you could do that. But, like I said before, I'm not sure why I'm complaining...the less women with kids work, the more demand there will be...which means I'll get paid more...maybe I should just enjoy that part of it...

Of course climbing up the command chain in retail pharmacy isn't exactly difficult, so if you really wanted to be a DM of Walgreens or something equally as soul crushing, I'm sure it probably isn't that hard to do. It's not like the best and brightest go into retail. It's like being the smartest kid on the short bus. Now if you work part time, then become a tenured professor somewhere or a clinical director somewhere within a few years...yeah, I'd be impressed with that. Of course that isn't possible...but whatever...

My IQ is 135+, it always has been around there. I always make the radar to be tested for genius status, but when the test results show it's always "Nope, false alarm." I'm not a genius, but I'm smart. I'm sure I'll do fine. People have always said I'm throwing my brain away by going into pharmacy, but I know what I want in life (at least so far).

 

[Kirbypuff]

finally, acknowledgement. I just think deep down wvupharm2007 is just jealous or something is up his @$$ cuz his comments are just damn annoying. (and yes, wvu, i understand u can have an opinion, and it's the internet and bla bla bla and all that good stuff, but really ur just a fugly troll)

kirbypuff, i luv ur comments!

😉 <333

 

[PharmPrincess]

BLAH BLAH BLAH. Women and men are only hormones apart during our neonatal stages of life. But societal construct is REAL. Legos were my favorite toy but I hid them from my friends when I was four because I felt ashamed of it, and I pretended to like pink, when green was actually my favorite color. I think love/acceptance >> truth/reality. Even if you know the truth, sometimes we all play by the rules of society, and stick ourselves somewhere in the gradient between totally male and totally female. If you want to bring it down to pure science, the real difference between male and female is the balance between testosterone and estrogen (and other hormones). Since a male has more testosterone his physique makes him more suitable for war. And since a female has more estrogen/progesterone/etc her physique makes her more suitable for getting pregnant. Perhaps gender roles were built from that. I think we're both preaching to the choir, but coming from different paths.

You mention that women and men are hormonally different in the neonatal stage, but what's funny is that every fetus starts out genetically by default as a woman and not a man. It's only when hormones like testosterone start to kick in (at what 3mths?), does the course of the sex is determined. Something else to think about for those misogynists (not accusing anyone in particular, this was just something i thought when i read this).

 

[Priapism321]

I'm not a genius, but I'm smart. I'm sure I'll do fine. People have always said I'm throwing my brain away by going into pharmacy, but I know what I want in life (at least so far).

I say people throw their self-proclaimed "near genius" brains away by having kids. Or doing retail pharmacy.

 

[Kirbypuff]

I say people throw their self-proclaimed "near genius" brains away by having kids. Or doing retail pharmacy.

HAHA self-proclaimed. Don't be jealous. Wanting and not wanting children has nothing to do with IQ. But if you must compare, most of the top living geniuses today have children, and yes, some don't have any children,which does not necessarily mean it was a choice not to have them. I don't plan to commit to retail until I've experienced all rotations at pharmacy school. But yea, I find great fulfillment in helping people in the retail setting.

 

[metrarx]

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[WVUPharm2007]

iSince a male has more testosterone his physique makes him more suitable for war. And since a female has more estrogen/progesterone/etc her physique makes her more suitable for getting pregnant. Perhaps gender roles were built from that. I think we're both preaching to the choir, but coming from different paths.

Either you just roll with biology or you become civilized. That's all I'm saying. Women, rather they know it or not, have lived in a culture where they have been acquiring the rights that used to be reserved for men...while men haven't acquired any of the rights that used to be reserved for women. Just look at relationships...men still are expected to ask women out the vast majority of the time...hold doors open for them...leave the toilet seat down...and so on. But if a man expects his woman to cook and clean, he's now viewed as a sexist...but a woman isn't seen as a sexist if she expects her man to do the aforementioned tasks. It's stuff like that...and there are countless examples throughout our society...and since last century, men actually have less rights than women. Both by cultural influence and by law. I agree that women should have careers...but they have to compete...

I followed that by saying that I can't speak for all women didn't I?

Ok, that's fine. I'm still waiting for your list of rights women should have. Maybe some of them might be reasonable.

Why would your career be put on hold because of someone else? If not having a child balances you and what you want out of life, that's great. But why complain about someone who believes that having a child will balance their life? What reward are you looking for?

Well, you were claiming that women/men who have children and work part time because of it shouldn't have their career suffer. I disagree. If you choose to have children and I don't, I will and should surpass you in our career.

What have YOU done to help the dumbification of men over the last few decades? Where's your humanist crusade?

Complaining. Lots of it. On internet message boards. And we all know what good that does. I fully expect Senator Byrd to bring up my posts at the next Senate meeting and read them verbatim.

I advocate male kindergarten teachers. I think they provide a sort of father figure for many young children who grow up with single mothers.

And I advocate female toplessness equality. They have that in Toronto. I noticed that when I was up there, not only did the women enjoy this freedom, but the men appeared to not mind at all.

I would rather have 100% volunteered soldiers regardless of gender. But if it came down to compulsory drafting, I would prefer drafting based on body structure. No small framed soldiers please.

I'd rather have small soldiers. Wars are fought with ballistics. Big people are easier to hit, but small little dudes with cut muscles and high stamina can pull a trigger just as well.

I just realized that you're creating a strawman argument because you're assuming that I hate men.

Of course I am. I'm amused by my little strawman. Haha. Dance. And I'd call it a strawwomen in this instance. Or, perhaps, strawperson.

My IQ is 135+, it always has been around there. I always make the radar to be tested for genius status, but when the test results show it's always "Nope, false alarm." I'm not a genius, but I'm smart.

IQ tests are stupid. Don't worry about it.

I'm sure I'll do fine. People have always said I'm throwing my brain away by going into pharmacy, but I know what I want in life (at least so far).

That's because people are stupid. F' em, do what you want.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

Finally, acknowledgement. I just think deep down WVUPharm2007 is just jealous or something is up his @$$ cuz his comments are just damn annoying.!

Then ignore me. The common theory is that I would then, thus, go away...but clearly, I probably won't go away. I have no life as my post count on here reveals. But at least you don't have to read my rambling thoughts that way.

 

[WVUPharm2007]

HAHA self-proclaimed. Don't be jealous. Wanting and not wanting children has nothing to do with IQ. But if you must compare, most of the top living geniuses today have children, and yes, some don't have any children,which does not necessarily mean it was a choice not to have them. I don't plan to commit to retail until I've experienced all rotations at pharmacy school. But yea, I find great fulfillment in helping people in the retail setting.

You seem too ambitious for retail. Obviously, I don't know you...at all...but its the vibe I get from your internet persona. You have too much fire your belly. And it's not just morning sickness.

 

[PharmPrincess]

Originally Posted by Priapism321
I say people throw their self-proclaimed "near genius" brains away by having kids. Or doing retail pharmacy.

What a ******ed thing to say. A woman who decides to have kids and is head of, say, the cardiology department is automatically inferior to you at that point? Please.

Make sure you tell your mom that she threw her brain away by having you. That should go over real well.

um, if you were a genius (self-proclaimed or not), wouldn't you want to pass those genes down to your children? i mean, you would be doing the world a favor by populating the world with your "smart" children...that is if the parents were truly geniuses

 

[PharmPrincess]

Then ignore me. The common theory is that I would then, thus, go away...but clearly, I probably won't go away. I have no life as my post count on here reveals. But at least you don't have to read my rambling thoughts that way.

I do ignore your psychobabble ramblings, esp if you tend to write too much. Not everyone has time to analyze every sentence in a paragraph like you do. However, some of your comments are amusing to read, but not in this case. And yes, the number of posts and having no life at all did cross my mind once or twice (not just you, but other people that have a huge number of posts)...

 

[Kirbypuff]

Either you just roll with biology or you become civilized. That's all I'm saying. Women, rather they know it or not, have lived in a culture where they have been acquiring the rights that used to be reserved for men...while men haven't acquired any of the rights that used to be reserved for women. Just look at relationships...men still are expected to ask women out the vast majority of the time...hold doors open for them...leave the toilet seat down...and so on. But if a man expects his woman to cook and clean, he's now viewed as a sexist...but a woman isn't seen as a sexist if she expects her man to do the aforementioned tasks. It's stuff like that...and there are countless examples throughout our society...and since last century, men actually have less rights than women. Both by cultural influence and by law. I agree that women should have careers...but they have to compete...

Ok, that's fine. I'm still waiting for your list of rights women should have. Maybe some of them might be reasonable.

I believe the U.S. is doing a good job at trying to even out the playing field between men and women. Currently, it's easier for a tall, well-built, white man to hold the respect of an audience that it is for a short, fat, black woman to do the same in the U.S. That's what I learned from Multicultural Psychology 381. In order to counter this social bias against non-white, non-tall, non-male, non-thin, non-rich, non-able peoples, there are laws, created by very intelligent people who are naturally not easily understood by the general public. And these laws are mistaken by the general public as arbitrary and unnecessary laws that are trying to let America apologize for its history. However, the past is the past. These laws are actually in place for the future. It hasn't been very long since black people and women started to vote and society still needs a boost towards eliminating social biases based on gender, physique, race, wealth, religion, and ability. The day a short, black/asian, homeless, fat, blind, woman can silence a large audience for her attention to speak, that is the day when affirmative action will no longer be necessary in our society. Clearly affirmative action is not perfect, but without it, there is no possibility for society to move in the direction of equality that it wants to.

Well, you were claiming that women/men who have children and work part time because of it shouldn't have their career suffer. I disagree. If you choose to have children and I don't, I will and should surpass you in our career.

That is assuming that multitasking between part time work and child-rearing does not better prepare you for the job at hand. I think excellent multitasking between family and career requires outstanding leadership skills, organizational skills, social skills, stamina, etc. I'm not saying that multitasking is better than focusing purely on the career, but I'm saying that either could be better; depends on the person and whatever talents they have honed with their time.

Complaining. Lots of it. On internet message boards. And we all know what good that does. I fully expect Senator Byrd to bring up my posts at the next Senate meeting and read them verbatim.

HAHAHAH

And I advocate female toplessness equality. They have that in Toronto. I noticed that when I was up there, not only did the women enjoy this freedom, but the men appeared to not mind at all.

I will advocate it as well. However, for me, exposing my perky breasts would probably increase the unwanted male attention that I already get, so I'll wait until I'm at least 55 years old to walk about topless. 🙂

I'd rather have small soldiers. Wars are fought with ballistics. Big people are easier to hit, but small little dudes with cut muscles and high stamina can pull a trigger just as well.

haha. okay.

Of course I am. I'm amused by my little strawman. Haha. Dance. And I'd call it a strawwomen in this instance. Or, perhaps, strawperson.

no comment.

IQ tests are stupid. Don't worry about it.

Yea, it's too specific in the task required of the taker. Humans are so much more than puzzle solvers. Which is why IQ scores have almost no correlation with success in life.

That's because people are stupid. F' em, do what you want.

Gracias.

You seem too ambitious for retail. Obviously, I don't know you...at all...but its the vibe I get from your internet persona. You have too much fire your belly. And it's not just morning sickness.

morning sickness LOL. I'm only "sure" of pharmacy because I've tried every damn thing under the sun. I like options. If I find something I like or I'm good at, I hang onto it, but I'm always trying to refine my goal. Right before I chose pharmacy, I was aiming towards research in psychobiology. Perhaps I will pull research back out from the back seat and maybe mix it up with pharmacy. Who knows what opportunities will arise. 🙂

 

[Kirbypuff]

um, if you were a genius (self-proclaimed or not), wouldn't you want to pass those genes down to your children? i mean, you would be doing the world a favor by populating the world with your "smart" children...that is if the parents were truly geniuses

I totally agree with you. Hot and Smartness needs to passed down. 🙂

 

[CopToEM]

I've heard that in Canada, women get a year off. 🙄 <--that's me, looking longingly upward... at Canada.

Here's France's:
Maternity leave and parental leave
France offers all women workers a paid, job -protected maternity leave six weeks before and 10 weeks after the births of the first two children, eight weeks before and 18 weeks after the birth of the third child, 34 weeks (12 prenatally) for twins and 42 weeks (24 prenatally) for triplets or more. Maternity leave, pre and postnatally, is mandatory.
At the end of maternity leave, the mother or father can take parental leave until the child reaches the age of three, with entitlement to re-integration into the previous or a similar job. Parents receive a parental leave allowance if they interrupt their employment, totally.



In addition, during the first portion of your maternity leave, they offer you luxury style housing where you don't have to worry about things at home. They send someone over to your house to see to it. Once that's over and you return home you have a maid service come for six months to do your laundry and take care of things for you.


😎

 

[Kirbypuff]

Here's France's:
Maternity leave and parental leave
France offers all women workers a paid, job -protected maternity leave six weeks before and 10 weeks after the births of the first two children, eight weeks before and 18 weeks after the birth of the third child, 34 weeks (12 prenatally) for twins and 42 weeks (24 prenatally) for triplets or more. Maternity leave, pre and postnatally, is mandatory.
At the end of maternity leave, the mother or father can take parental leave until the child reaches the age of three, with entitlement to re-integration into the previous or a similar job. Parents receive a parental leave allowance if they interrupt their employment, totally.



In addition, during the first portion of your maternity leave, they offer you luxury style housing where you don't have to worry about things at home. They send someone over to your house to see to it. Once that's over and you return home you have a maid service come for six months to do your laundry and take care of things for you.


😎

Hmmm but the bad part is, you have to speak French, no?

 

[kbv]

I'm a budding intern at Walgreen's (a place I really love working at), however, after speaking with a couple of pregnant pharmacists, I realized that the maternity leave is extremely short. Walgreen's gives 6 weeks of paid maternity leave, and 6 extra weeks of unpaid maternity leave if there are complications or if you had a C-section. If you do decide to take the extra 6 weeks off, you lose your store and you have to be relegated to the sea of floaters drifting all over your county.... while trying to raise a 5 week old infant.

Where do you work? What maternity leave policy to they have? Any downfalls of the workplace?

I've heard that in Canada, women get a year off. 🙄 <--that's me, looking longingly upward... at Canada.

Just go away to Canada, French, or whatever. The less working pharmacists here, the better. Really, you use pregnancy as an excuse - family, career, women's rights...I say 6 wks are plenty for a normal carriage.
Having a carriage and raising kid(s) are completely 2 different issues. If you want to raise your kid(s), raise him/her/them at your own time. Share the parental responsibility w/ your partner/husband; after all, it's that feminist's movement you've been going on, right?