When to submit secondaries?

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Hi.
I submitted my AMCAS in mid July and it has been verified. Since then I have received most of my secondaries from schools in the past week. I took the MCAT for the first time on August 21 (i think i did bad). When should I submit my secondaries by? When is the latest without being considered "late" and hindering my chances?
Although my GPA is below average and I feel that I did bad on the MCAT, I have currently applied to 15 schools... should I add more to increase my chances? Money is not an issue. I am willing to do whatever it takes in order to get into medical school.
Also, are there any other tips for filling out secondaries?
Thank you
 
Well, at this point I'd say to try to get everything in before your score is released since that's the earliest you could be complete anyways. So you should basically be submitting a secondary every other day for 1 month.
 
How did you do on the practice tests?
Definitely start planning and writing your secondaries soon, if not now!
 
Yep, use the prompts from this year's forums, add some low-tier schools if you havent already (also D.O. schools) I did add d.o., but im waiting on how many md schools invite me to interview before I explore that route. Some schools I would add if you havent already would be temple, tulane, vermont, buffalo, albert einstein, drexel, and others im sure people can add to. Good luck, though
 
Why temple, tulane, vermont, buffalo, albert einstein, drexel? Why these schools in particular?
Any other schools?
What are some low tier schools? Where can I find out?
Thanks
 
You need to submit ASAP. When I sent my secondaries in September/October last year, half my schools wrote me apologetic mail telling me they basically never got to my application or simply ran out of interview slots...
 
Define ASAP... when is the latest?
But my application wont be complete until they receive my MCAT score in late september...
Thanks
 
I really don't think you should be looking at deadlines--instead you should be getting them done now. Especially if you're like me and have a low-to-mediocre GPA.

Really, I feel that the right philosophy for applying to med schools is not "submit before the deadlines," it's about "submit now or as soon as possible."

Also, he said to add those schools because they are slightly more easy to get into. And maybe consider DO schools, depending on your practice MCAT scores and exact GPA.
 
Any other schools?
What are some low tier schools? Where can I find out?
 
is there anywhere where i can see example secondary responses?
 
From my blog, http://compassmd.blogspot.com/2009/08/longest-yard.html

What you need for secondaries is the following:

* A full list of your classes, possibly even your AMCAS primary. Highlight all the pre-med curriculum courses, such as Bio and Chem, as well as your BCPM GPAs and any other information you need.
* Passport Photos. There are plenty of places to make your own. Honestly, I don't see $10 for 2 as a good deal. A 4x6 photograph holds 6 passport photos. You should be computer-savvy enough with Google to be able to make these prints.
* 9x12 envelopes. Cramming your paper-based applications into letter envelopes is dopey. These big envelopes should do the trick. Remember your postage.
* Essays
* Parents' information if applicable: undergrad, grad, degrees, years, occupation, any legacy/family members at the med schools

The essay questions usually fall in the following categories:

* Why do you have a particular interest in this school?
* Adversity or hardships in your life?
* Academic dishonesty or criminal background?
* Explain bad grades.
* Your favorite volunteer job?
* Your favorite occupation?
* Your research?
* What are you doing this year?
* Gaps in education?
* A difficult ethical or moral dilemma?
* Where do you see yourself in X years?
* Anything else?

All of these essays are inherently simple to answer but almost impossible to compound on. I'll give basic advice for each. The rest is up to you.

Why this school? What have you done in your past that links to the school? Do you like their unique curriculum? Their mission statement? Their apples and their bananas? Have you been there? Their teaching style? What do you hope the school can give you that makes you interested in them, besides the MD/DO degree?

Adversity and hardships may or may not apply to you. Consider racial profiling, discrimination, tragedy, money difficulties, down-and-out periods of life. If you have problems talking about it at the interview, this is a NO GO to write about. Only write about what you can talk about.

Obviously, for academic dishonesty and criminal misconduct, simply state what happened, what resolved, and that's it. Don't weep, lament, and so on, if it asks you simply to describe it.

Bad grades are normally a slew of Cs, any Ds, Fs, or Ws that you may have had. Bs are not bad grades. Explain bad semesters if they are abnormal, like a whole wave of Bs and Cs.

Your favorites/research should be a summary of 5 Ws. Who did you work with, what did you work on (include responsibilities and roles), when you did it (including hours), where you worked at, and why it is important to you. Mention any publications/personal feelings.

What you're doing this year may be similar to above. If it's classes, simply write classes. As a graduate, I wrote all about what I'm doing this upcoming year. I am unsure of whether gap years contain gaps from application to matriculation, but when in doubt, use this essay if you are a recent graduate.

Ethical/moral dilemma is a fun one. This may also appear as a difficult decision which does not imply ethical/moral issues. Go back in time and look for a decision that was a difficult call. It does not have to be super-significant like turning in a puppy killer who was your best friend, but make it such that it has an impact more on people around you. If the topic says avoid academic dishonesty, avoid it. Please, try not to LIE. I'm pretty sure you've made such a decision in the past, and lying is pretty pointless at this point.

Where I see myself in X years is also nice. Make sure to mention that the school helped you get there. Talk about what you see yourself doing, whether it be family medicine, on a boat (...er) doing Mercy missions, and so on. This should flow naturally. If it doesn't, you haven't seen yourself yet, and need to work on that.

Anything else can be any arrangement of the above or something like, in my case, art background. Mix together what you can. Helping the homeless, publications, anything not already in your AMCAS, or not very well-explained in AMCAS is fair game.

Another thing you can try doing is simply writing your essay in a story-like fashion. I made some of my essays read out like short stories, using very creative methods of writing I normally associate with my favorite books, as opposed to the boring essay-style that reads like a molecular biophysics textbook manual. Make it flow, make it pretty, use adjectives. Make it capture the emotions. Don't throw grammar out the window, but such simple methods as restating or even simple quotes can do wonders. Quote an author if you must, but don't burn characters citing Hemingway unless it is INVOLVED in the essay. Don't cite because you can, but because you must. Hemingway was not there doing life-saving on the road surgery with you. He doesn't need to be mentioned. On the other hand, Sun Tzu was fighting an Italian in New Jersey with you and quoted Shakespeare? Go ahead and put that quote in, if it makes it more interesting.
 
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