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For those of you with ridiculous daily schedules, where do you get your energy?

(I mean those of you who leave your house/apartment/dorm in the early morning and get back after 9 or 10 PM, every day, for FT jobs, classes, volunteering, research, etc..)

I'm asking because the only feasible way to fund a post-bacc for me would involve a slightly haywire schedule--and I want to do what will help me best, but am not sure how to handle a day of being out at 8 AM and back at 11 PM, 5 days per week, for at least a full two semesters and a summer semester.

Is it all just caffeine??
 
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The key is mental imagery. [...] picture yourself as a real man.

Sorry, had to find some way to use this quote from the surgery forums.

8 AM to 11 PM doesn't really sound that bad. I did around that this year for a lot of my first year of medical school with minimal caffiene (I have runs of very poor time management). Exercise is very helpful if you can squeeze it in. If nothing else, a quick run before breakfast is good. I felt much sharper mentally when I'd do that than if I used that 15 minutes to lay in bed. Get up and go to sleep at the same time every day. You'll adjust, and the only concern for me is burnout, not a lack of energy.

During undergrad, I did a year of 7AM to 7PM the following day three times a week. Wake up at 7 AM to go to class, study all day, go home and make lunch for the night shift, work 11 PM to 7:30 AM, go to class, study, get home at 7 PM, sleep until 7AM the next day. Repeat. It was terrible, and I was inches away from hitting the cement median from falling asleep at the wheel more times than I'd like to remember, but it got done. You just set a schedule you have to keep, and stick with it, using absurd amounts of caffiene as needed to get the job done.
 
Washing your face with ice cold water multiple times a day. Sounds odd, but it works.
 
It's not so much ENERGY as it is diligent and smart time management. I stack errands- while I'm dropping off thank you cards for LORs I'm stopping by the shelter to fill out my livescan form for my background check for a clinical EC, and then heading to meet a buddy from micro to go over our project.

I stack things together and try to have strategic tactical strikes of TCB (taking care of biznazz). Plus, that saves gas.

Then I take a day to chillax wif mah doog or manfriend and recharge and do it all again the next week. But the recharging is almost as if not more important than the hair-on-fire days, too.

disclosure: 4.0 post-bacc career changer, 24-hours week as a medic, heavy on ECs and running a household with a doog a kitteh and a manfriend.

Oh- and also- work out really heavy about 6x a week (weights and/or cardio). That helps me sleep like a log which probably helps energy levels. I also like beer, taco bell, diet coke, and caffeine in all forms 😀

One more thing- dating someone who also likes to sit around and study is kewl because you guys can get work done together but simultaneously hang out and play footsie under the desk.

Lol I keep thinking about it and adding more- any type of job where you work in ems" (Earn Money Sleeping) is always nice. Catching some zzz's between calls is GREAT on busy weeks. Flexibility in work schedule is also key. Right now I do 1 24hr a week or 2 12s on a night car.

Another great job for post-bacc broke *ss career changers is to become a superintendent of a building or apartment manager. Free rent! And they're basically paying you to sit around and study. A setup like that would be great for a MCAT prep year.

Algophilia, do you have at least one day off with your schedule to do nothing? And what sports do ya do?
 
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Coffee! =D It's amazing.....thought I should probably stay off it for a while this summer. Or at least cut down haha.
 
It's not so much ENERGY as it is diligent and smart time management. I stack errands- while I'm dropping off thank you cards for LORs I'm stopping by the shelter to fill out my livescan form for my background check for a clinical EC, and then heading to meet a buddy from micro to go over our project.

I always try to do this, but unfortunately I have about 1-2 "free" hours during which to study during all that day plan. But that also includes socializing, eating, running any random errands, office hours, and workouts and the like. I'm really not sure how I on earth I can handle that, but obviously haven't done it yet.

I'd love to work nights, since it would actually free up more time for me, but I really wouldn't get much sleep with my roommates being loud during the whole day. It'd probably be difficult to adjust to a 12-hour workday, for me, however. I like to have a break between things to "recharge," but won't be getting any of that, either.

I'd have the weekends off, technically, so that's two days of volunteering and studying quite a bit.

I don't really have a workout in place right now, but have exercised in the past and that helps. But I just don't know how I'd work that in, if I were to do my haywire schedule plan. Maybe if I get in shape a bit more, that'd help--definitely had more energy back when I was working out more often.

Thanks for all the tips so far. I mean, I guess I should start drinking caffeine and get into a focusing zone.
 
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Thanks for all the tips so far. I mean, I guess I should start drinking caffeine and get into a focusing zone.


oh you know what else is also a protip?
1.) pack yo sheet the night before (get your books together for schools, make sure you have the right lab manuals and right stoof ya need... wet manual lab book vs drylab book, etc). this helps making use of the time, cuz like if you have that hour gap you could go do a trail run on campus or hit the track or something, but only if you were organized and remember to throw the gym bag in the back of the car and pack yer tennies. being organized like this also promotes healthy eating, cuz if you pack an apple or whatnot you're less likely to be mainlining taco bell volcano cheesesauce l8r.

2.) spend 2 minutes before bed just reviewing the upcoming day and wrapping yer head around what the f you have to do.

3.) also, totally white trash of me, but I keep a sleeping bag in the back of my truck and have been known to catch a snooze there if I either am exhausted getting off shift and don't wanna drive home yet or have a gap between classes and am too tired to study. 😛
 
If I don't get enough work done in the day, then I don't let myself masturbate.
 
a green smoothie in the morning and another mid-day when my energy is slumping plus lots of green tea and snacks like fruits and veggies with nut butter throughout... I've (optimistically) sworn off energy drinks until Step 1... Also short bursts of exercise helps immensely but I can't say that I always follow my own advice and never opt for a Hulu break over a HIIT break!
 
crystal meth is probably the wrong answer...
 
Hmmm, alright, so be organized, be physically healthy, work out, eat well, and take a lot of short mini-breaks throughout the day for bursts of energy. That actually sounds very reasonable and balanced, but I'd have to be very conscientious to plan for all of that with little stress. Thank you so much everyone...these are pretty helpful.
 
I also find it helps me to not look rushed and in a stressed out flurry all the time, even when I am. Controlling your own mental state makes a huge difference , IMO. There is someone on these boards named Dr. Ducky who's sig says something like, " be like a duck, floating calmly above the water but paddling like the dickens underneath" or something to that effect.
 
Exercise, make sure you eat REGULARLY and HEALTHILY (probably the most important IMO), and stimulants (the least healthy option). I'd say I drink at least a 16 oz. coffee or 20 oz. Diet Mountain Dew on a daily basis. As I write this I have a lovely 20 oz. can of sugar-free Red Bull feeding me energy.
 
Exercising, particularly cardio like running or biking is what works for me. If you are not doing anything currently you may feel tired initially, but it will definitely help out in the long run if you do it consistently.
 
Having your priorities straight, knowing what you want in life, understanding your goals and their importance to you, and not being a whimp..
 
For those of you with ridiculous daily schedules, where do you get your energy?

(I mean those of you who leave your house/apartment/dorm in the early morning and get back after 9 or 10 PM, every day, for FT jobs, classes, volunteering, research, etc..)

I'm asking because the only feasible way to fund a post-bacc for me would involve a slightly haywire schedule--and I want to do what will help me best, but am not sure how to handle a day of being out at 8 AM and back at 11 PM, 5 days per week, for at least a full two semesters and a summer semester.

Is it all just caffeine??

I realize this will be an unpopular opinion, but I'm going to give it anyway: pretty much nobody on this forum leaves at 8am, gets back at 11pm, and WORKS HARD for that many hours straight. Simple math shows that this isn't physically possible for more than a few days. Sure, we all do it from time to time, but anyone who claims to be going HARD for that long on a regular basis is either bipolar on a manic kick, or full of caca.

Anyone who is actually out working, researching, in class, etc. for that length of time is probably doing some serious multi-tasking (I'm trying to be polite here). They're likely plugging away on assignments, etc. when they should be paying attention to the lecture. Perhaps they have a job that allows them to study while "on duty" (ie, movie theater, front desk position, etc.). Lots of people are able to get studying/schoolwork done while working in labs. There's often long stretches of boring downtime while experiments are running (ie, centrifuge for 20 minutes, 1 hour in a water bath, 20 minutes spent waiting for a gel to run, endless time spent waiting for the autoclave to depressurize, etc.).

This isn't to say that people are lying. I don't think they are for the most part. It's just that what sounds killer on paper isn't nearly as killer in reality. 🙄
 
I realize this will be an unpopular opinion, but I'm going to give it anyway: pretty much nobody on this forum leaves at 8am, gets back at 11pm, and WORKS HARD for that many hours straight. Simple math shows that this isn't physically possible for more than a few days. Sure, we all do it from time to time, but anyone who claims to be going HARD for that long on a regular basis is either bipolar on a manic kick, or full of caca.

But then how do people handle full time jobs, a full time course load, research, volunteering, and etc.? I'm guessing multitasking would be helpful here, such as finding a job in a research position, but that's not always possible, and I'm sure some people can't find a way to attain this position. Hmmm.

8 hrs full-time/2 part-time job(s) + 3-5 hrs classes (labs are longer, after all) + any ECs + 1-2 hr. break (in my case)...well, I could handle it without the ECs, possibly, but that would be unrealistic over a year timespan. Not having at least 1-2 hours of free time to actually relax bothers me, however, and I'm sure such days are very common in the medical field and medical school, as well. Obviously, haven't done this hectic schedule and hope never to have to over a long-term period, but some days are going to be long.

No amount of determination seems to work for me, if I go more than a day without a mental break.

But there's also the fact that I just naturally zonk out halfway through every single day, which leaves me exhausted by 3 PM. Maybe I should schedule some gym time then, although it sounds pretty counterproductive...
 
Honestly for me it is just willpower. I only drink coffee once or twice a month, yet I find my peers who are on coffee still gas out before me. For instance last Friday I got to school at 9pm and left at 6 am. Everyone else was too tired by 3 am. Repeated it on Saturday and no one came :roll eyes:

I find that interesting because it almost seems like they use coffee as a crutch and without it they complain about needing it like a cig smoker!

I hate people who say holier than thou things like this as though they actually have some kind of mind control over whether or not they get tired........ "willpower" lol okay......
 
But then how do people handle full time jobs, a full time course load, research, volunteering, and etc.? I'm guessing multitasking would be helpful here, such as finding a job in a research position, but that's not always possible, and I'm sure some people can't find a way to attain this position. Hmmm.

8 hrs full-time/2 part-time job(s) + 3-5 hrs classes (labs are longer, after all) + any ECs + 1-2 hr. break (in my case)...well, I could handle it without the ECs, possibly, but that would be unrealistic over a year timespan. Not having at least 1-2 hours of free time to actually relax bothers me, however, and I'm sure such days are very common in the medical field and medical school, as well. Obviously, haven't done this hectic schedule and hope never to have to over a long-term period, but some days are going to be long.

No amount of determination seems to work for me, if I go more than a day without a mental break.

But there's also the fact that I just naturally zonk out halfway through every single day, which leaves me exhausted by 3 PM. Maybe I should schedule some gym time then, although it sounds pretty counterproductive...

Hey OP--

I give that perspective as someone who knows. I'm married, have three kids (7 yrs, 8 yrs, and a 7 m/o baby), homeschool my older two kids, do research where I am the PI, TA a lab, coach two kids soccer teams, lead a Girl Scout troop, manage the cookie sales for every Girl Scout troop in our city (about 30 troops), and do a lot of domestic violence advocacy. I always seem to have another research project going on somewhere with another professor (right now it's gene annotation). On a personal level, I'm an avid gardener, and try to maintain something approaching a reasonable sex life with my husband.

To say that I'm busy would be a colossal understatement.

Yes, there are times when I struggle to find time for sleep. Yes, there are times when things don't get done. I could make a list three times as long as the one I just made of things that I *don't* get done. Cleaning the bathroom, folding the laundry, regularly cooking, etc. come to mind. 😳

But the reality is that though my list is long, it looks more impressive than it actually is. I've worked it out such that I only spend about 10 hours a week in class. I pay attention in lecture, and do everything I can to study productively at home. I make the time I have for studying count. TA is labor intensive some weeks, but no big deal others. Homeschooling the kids only takes about 2 hours a day, and I'm often working on my own things while they are working on theirs. Research ebbs and flows so that some weeks require lots of work, while others are on auto-pilot. Coaching soccer is about 6 hrs/week for 3 months of the year. Girl Scouts takes about 2hrs/week. I take 64 hours of domestic violence hotline "call" every month, but only about 8hrs of that is actively spent counseling. I'd like to have sex more often, but the truth is that my husband and I are both too tired anyway. :meanie:

You get the idea. What looks like a CRAZY amount of EC/research/etc. suddenly looks human when I write down the *actual* amount of time I spend doing *only* those things (to the exclusion of everything else).

Yes, I'm organized. Yes, I closely monitor my time so that I'm not wasting it. Yes, I'm protective of my sleeping time. These are all important. As a non-traditional student, make sure you have a great support system in place. You're going to need it.

Don't let the people posting on this forum give you an inferiority complex. Remember, you can be anyone you want to be on the internet. 🙄

Priority #1 for you is getting your required courses under your belt. Don't stress about ECs at first. Adcoms aren't stupid: they know you have a full-time job. Look for EC opportunities that you actually enjoy, which will make the time go by much more quickly. Make the things that you're doing count. Quality, not quantity. 😎

Hang in there--you're going to be peachy keen.
 
1) Healthy food eaten throughout the day (avoiding very large meals)
2) Exercise
3) Proper motivation
4) Music
 
You get the idea. What looks like a CRAZY amount of EC/research/etc. suddenly looks human when I write down the *actual* amount of time I spend doing *only* those things (to the exclusion of everything else).

Wow, thank you so much for this post! How much time would you say you typically spend per day on all of these activities? I'm having a very difficult time picturing how this can possibly not add up to a very busy day.

My issue is mainly with having a smaller set of activities, but a set that I dedicate a considerable amount of time to per week. My path is nontraditional in the sense that it will require a considerable amount of time in GPA repair, so the courses will definitely be my main focus.

It's difficult to not be a bit worried by what seems like a lack of activity, compared to everyone else's efforts! I must admit I really enjoy the volunteering opportunities I have, and it is sometimes difficult for me to prioritize what I realize medical schools would prefer to see (grades). Organization sounds so simple in practice, but I have a difficult time with unstructured time when the schedule gets a bit sidetracked--I suppose I need more flexibility in my plans!

NeuralNetwork, music is a fantastic idea. I tend to forget how motivational it can be.
 
If I don't get enough work done in the day, then I don't let myself masturbate.

Haha. Gold. Now i know why they call you TheShaker. You know what they say - when at the urinal, any more than 3 shakes and you're just playing with yourself. Knowledge bomb.
 
mountain dew white out, mountain dew code red, mountain dew baha blast, mountain dew classic, mountain dew voltage...etc
 
Washing your face with ice cold water multiple times a day. Sounds odd, but it works.

+ exercise-morning and night, no orgasming (srs), low glycemic index carbs(unless pre or post workout), ascetic lifestyle in general, and listening to movie soundtracks. Caffeine rarely when I REALLY am tired. (once a month maybe)
 
+ exercise-morning and night, no orgasming (srs), low glycemic index carbs(unless pre or post workout), ascetic lifestyle in general, and listening to movie soundtracks. Caffeine rarely when I REALLY am tired. (once a month maybe)
Unfortunately not a problem 🙁.
 
coffee and the thought of getting into medical school
 
+ exercise-morning and night, no orgasming (srs), low glycemic index carbs(unless pre or post workout), ascetic lifestyle in general, and listening to movie soundtracks. Caffeine rarely when I REALLY am tired. (once a month maybe)

u sound fun, wanna party?
 
+ exercise-morning and night, no orgasming (srs), low glycemic index carbs(unless pre or post workout), ascetic lifestyle in general, and listening to movie soundtracks. Caffeine rarely when I REALLY am tired. (once a month maybe)

Having an orgasm while listening to a movie soundtrack eating a snickers bar and sucking down an iced coffee would really throw you off your game huh?
 
Wow, thank you so much for this post! How much time would you say you typically spend per day on all of these activities? I'm having a very difficult time picturing how this can possibly not add up to a very busy day.

My issue is mainly with having a smaller set of activities, but a set that I dedicate a considerable amount of time to per week. My path is nontraditional in the sense that it will require a considerable amount of time in GPA repair, so the courses will definitely be my main focus.

It's difficult to not be a bit worried by what seems like a lack of activity, compared to everyone else's efforts! I must admit I really enjoy the volunteering opportunities I have, and it is sometimes difficult for me to prioritize what I realize medical schools would prefer to see (grades). Organization sounds so simple in practice, but I have a difficult time with unstructured time when the schedule gets a bit sidetracked--I suppose I need more flexibility in my plans!

NeuralNetwork, music is a fantastic idea. I tend to forget how motivational it can be.

Well, I graduated Saturday (WOOT!), so I'm not in class right now. School is like anything else: insanely busy some weeks, smooth sailing other weeks. My husband can attest to the fact that I was a wreck the last 3 weeks of the semester. I routinely worked on 5 hours of sleep a night, was a perpetual grump, and was generally not fun at all to be around. Those weeks I asked for help when I needed it. I did everything I could, but asked another parent to coach soccer or lead a Girl Scout meeting when I couldn't get around needing to get work done.

On average, I'd say I spend 20 hours per week in class and studying, and another 20 hours per week doing volunteer work, research, etc. Soccer, Girl Scouts, and domestic violence work shakes out to about 10 hours per week. Managing Girl Scout cookie stuff is another one of those things that ebbs and flows. This week people are picking up the prizes the girls earned for selling, so I probably spend 2-4 hours A DAY dealing with that (I can't wait until that's over). Like I said before, research ebbs and flows. If I'm in a crucial week, you can bet that it will monopolize huge swaths of my time. Other weeks there's nothing happening at all that requires my immediate attention. I dig the autopilot weeks. 😎

I spend the balance of the time sleeping and doing stuff with my kids. I do best on 8-10 hours per night. It pays in dividends to sleep: you feel better, think more clearly, work more productively, and can go harder for longer if you get plenty of rest. Right now, there's nothing I love more than nuzzling my baby. I'd spend all day staring at him, hugging him, and showering him with kisses if I could. As it is, I keep him next to me as often as I can. It's *almost* as good. 😉

I also got a lot less compulsive about my grades when I was pregnant last year and once the baby was born. I figured out that I made the same grades whether I spend 20 hours in class/studying, or 80 hours in class/studying. So I cut way, way, way back on that. This month I'm spending lots of time working on my AMCAS application, hence the fact that I've been spending a fair amount of time reading here.

I'd also like to re-emphasize that there's plenty of stuff I don't get done. I am a compulsive list-maker (if I do something that's not on my list, I add it to the list so that I can cross it off and credit for it 😳). I also sort the to-do list. Every item is categorized as one of the following: do it, dump it, delegate it, defer it. That helps me make sure that the most important things always get done.

Yes, I have been known to put things like "brush teeth," "shower," and "get dressed" on my to do list. But I think that's more a function of having a little baby than anything else. 😛

Overheard just now: giggle fits from the diaper changing station. Husband, "NO! DON'T POOP ON ME! BUDDY--COME ON!!!" Giggle fits continuing. :meanie:

I love my life.
 
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