Which has a better reputation to YOU? OSU vs. U Cincinnati

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I'm an Ohio resident, trying to figure out which way I want to go on the Ohio public schools. I've narrowed it down to these 2. My question is--which school has a better reputation to YOU? Consider all aspects (not just how much $$ they get for research) like facilities, location, etc? What would you do?

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OSU, they got the better sports teams.
 
Cincinnati, for sure. Cincinnati is a great school!

Ohio State drags in out of staters for the sole purpose of boosting their stats. Plus, I think they're going private anyway in the next two years which will triple the tuition costs, especially with Bob Taft (dumb a$$), who is now currently slashing state education funding, as Governor. That's the direction they're headed, especially since they no longer give preference to Ohio residents.

Do I sound bitter? OSU has rejected me now twice in as many years with ZERO interviews. I've been an OHIO resident for 23 years and have payed (as well as my parents who were both born and lived in Ohio their entire lives) Ohio taxes and they still won't grant me an interview. And they told me I was qualified.

I have been a Buckeye fan my entire life (watched almost every single football game that I could), but having gotten the official word yesterday from the admissions office, all I can say is: GO BLUE!

Hail to the Victors!
 
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I think they are both great schools and I don't think either has a better reputation than the other. Congratulations on getting into both! Those are my top choices...so I hope to be in your position soon. I think the major thing that would help me decide is to consider location. They both offer the same programs...so think of where you would be happier in terms of how close you want to be to friends, family, or significant others.

The only difference I have noticed at my interviews is that Cincy seems to have a more friendly atmosphere whereas OSU seems a little more serious.

Congrats!!!
 
Cinci

(But I did my undergrad at U of M so...) 😀
 
Cincinnati does have a friendlier atmosphere because they're not busy blowing sunshine where it doesn't belong. OSU likes to do this to feel better.

Also, Cincy has a smaller class size, which means more attention from professors and clinicians.

If you go to OSU for the football, you're making a big mistake. My advice, get tickets to a game, go to one on the weekend from Cincy it's like an hour and half or so drive.

Cincinnati has a river too with riverboat gambling!! Plus, in October they're having this big River Queen Steamboat exhibition to celebrate Ohio's Bicentennial. If you go to Cincy (where I'm probably going) I'll take you to it!
 
so... yeah, this decision is killing me too. its good to think out loud, so here we go (please forgive the stream of consciousness):

I'm at OSU now, and spend my days with Med and Dent students, so I feel i've got a pretty good idea about what being a Buckeye is all about. and I went down to Cinci last week to hang with some friends who are first year students. so you can see i'm trying to figure it out 🙂

I'm trying to make my decision with three criteria in mind, (these things will not make you happy):

1. Do not let the fact that your friends are going somewhere have any effect on your decision. (this is YOUR decision. imagine that they were not there)
2. Do not let price be a factor. (You're going into debt anyway, you can suck it up and pay it off)
3. Do not let any ideas about prestige factor in. (ultimately go where you'll be happy. prestige will not make you fullfilled in the long run)

that being said, i like my friends, money and prestige, so you see why this list can be challenging. 😉

*my* perceptions of Cincinatti: 1. friendly students! no doubt! students are super cool there.
2. crappy area of town. seriously man, you don't want to be walking around after dark. and does anyone walk to campus from their apartment/house? i think not. and cincinatti as a town is not so much of a good place. I almost can't believe i'm saying this, but "race relations" are a problem. I grew up in columbus and that just sounds weird, but when i talk to friends of mine down there they always mention it and "how conservative" Cincinatti is. my friend who grew up in cleveland told me that he wouldn't want to raise his kids in cincinatti. if its what you grew up with and it all you know, and you love the town, great, but, for me, i'm like, a little iffy about it.
3. integrated pathway the first two years is quite seemless, well tested. lots of quality hospitals around. some type of really cool acting internship in internal medicine your fourth year that people love.
4. is there more of an individual attention/teaching emphasis at UC? they have a whole really nice area set up for clinical models and actors who act like patients. I think OSU does the patient actor thing but they do it in the basement of Meiling or some conference room somewhere just thrown together.
5. I want to get out of Columbus. something special happens when a group of people come together who are all doing something new together. you know, when you went off to camp for the summer. shared misery brings people closer. it was SO fun. and med school I hope will sort of be the same way. so that's why i'm leaning toward UC. I want to see new stuff. change things up a little. 🙂

*my* perceptions of OSU: 1. OSU campus is pretty safe. i'm not saying things don't happen (rapists, murders, etc.), but you're not in the middle of city. Columbus is more spread out. long discussion to follow of how columbus is a mall, movie-theater, "where do you want to go out to eat tonight/which bar in the arena district do you want to go to make life interesting because there is nothing else to do" type of town. it is sort of safe and cozy though and people are midwesternly nice.
2. OSU has an integrated pathway, sort of. I mean they're trying. some lectures overlap content, some suck, to hear the students tell it (it is the school's first time using it this year). And on the interview they tell you about "how innovative OSU is". whatever. they cut PBL because it takes up too much faculty time. "they took the best parts of all three pathways and made the Integrated Pathway". uh huh. they saw that they could save a bunch of money and faculty time if they cut PBL and they saw that all over the nation all the other schools where becoming integrated and they felt behind so they got a committee together and created the IP. and the research tower? sure, its planned, and a date's been set for it (2005... maybe?) we'll see...
3. at OSU, its tough to find a mentor. you know, someone who really wants to help you out. i know several extremely bright, excellent med students who are struggling to think of someone who can write a letter of rec for them. letter of rec hunting always sucks anyway, but you're just sort of a number at OSU in some ways.
4. plenty of nice coffee shops around to study at. and nice apartments, reasonably priced.
5. i'm sorry, but its cool to be a buckeye. a "bearcat" just seems second-rate. i'm such a columbus-born freak. i apolgize. 🙂
6. OSU students are OK. some really cool. its a big class. you'll find someone cool to hang with.
7. Dr. Notestine (vice chair of student admissions or something) on my interview never blinked when he talked. his presentation weirded me out a little. anyone else?

anyway, thanks for reading my rant 🙂 i can't decide, i'm waiting for my financial aid info to come back simply to postpone deciding. i do enjoy reading other's thoughts on all this, so please give us your two cents. thanks 🙂
 
>crappy area of town. seriously man, you don't want to be >walking around after dark. and does anyone walk to campus >from their apartment/house? i think not. and cincinatti as a town >is not so much of a good place. I almost can't believe i'm saying >this, but "race relations" are a problem. I grew up in columbus >and that just sounds weird, but when i talk to friends of mine >down there they always mention it and "how conservative" >Cincinatti is. my friend who grew up in cleveland told me that he >wouldn't want to raise his kids in cincinatti. if its what you grew >up with and it all you know, and you love the town, great, but, >for me, i'm like, a little iffy about it.

I have heard this before and it is probably the one thing that concerns me about Cincy. Though, OSU didn't give me the choice (my choice is between MCO and Cincy and I grew up with MCO basically so I want something different), I feel that this something that concerns me as well--both the bad area around campus and the conservative/not a great city to live in kinda deal. Now, I know that most medical centers aren't located in the greatest areas. Even Duke Medical Center is located in just an okay part of town, and if anyone's been in Durham they know there is not a whole hell of a lot to do. That area around High Street in Columbus near OSU seems a bit rough too. I guess my question is this: is the area around Cincy Med School or the city of Cincinnati as a whole that bad? I know most students don't live that close anyway, but slightly further away. Any thoughts would be great, please...

(btw, I'm a little less bitter right now, so please help me out)

Duke
 
Someone can correct me if I am wrong, but aren't OSU and UC ranked about the same by US News (somewhere in the 40s)?

I have friends at both places. My friend at UC told me to go to OSU if I got in and my other friend (who is a 4th yr at OSU) told me to go to Case if I got in.

So I'm like ... right ... where does that leave me??

However, the curriculums are different at the two schools and from what I got out of the interview days, UC students are able to interact with patients earlier in the four years than OSU students.

Dunno if what I said helped or not, but that's my 2 cents!!
 
Originally posted by perrum365


crappy area of town. seriously man, you don't want to be walking around after dark. and does anyone walk to campus from their apartment/house? i think not. and cincinatti as a town is not so much of a good place. I almost can't believe i'm saying this, but "race relations" are a problem. I grew up in columbus and that just sounds weird, but when i talk to friends of mine down there they always mention it and "how conservative" Cincinatti is. my friend who grew up in cleveland told me that he wouldn't want to raise his kids in cincinatti. if its what you grew up with and it all you know, and you love the town, great, but, for me, i'm like, a little iffy about it.

Yes, it is in a crappy area of town, but not the worst. It's fairly safe, and many people DO walk to/from campus. I agree that's it's a very conservative city, and I don't plan on spending the rest of my life here, but it is and EXCELLENT place to receive a medical education. There's so many hospitals around, all with different patient populations.
 
Hello,
UC is definately not in Beverly Hills, but at the same time I've seen worse areas. I live directly across from the med center as do a lot of other students and we walk to/from school (yes, at night too). Others live in other areas around the school. Within 1-2 miles there are some really expensive places (Gaslight District) or some real sh** holes (in Corryville). Regardless there is quite a broad spectrum for living.

Cinci is conservative, but not that bad. I'm from SLC, UT and it beats the crap out of Cinci for conservative.

In all honesty, no matter where you go you will most likely not spend a whole bunch of time sitting under trees and staring at the beautiful skyline. More likely than not you will be stuck in the library, labs, hospital 99% of the time. So using the surrounding areas and city highlights may not be the best measure for evaluating schools.

In reality you must decide what is best for you. I enjoy it here because I am involved with UC and my classmates are fantastically cohesive and nice. I'm sure that everyone will give you 50 reasons why their school is best, but one reason I chose UC was that the people all were warm, receptive, and friendly and that is hard to beat.

On another note, if you are interested in the remodeling and improvements that UC is doing (a complete renovation). Check out this page:

http://www.med.uc.edu/msb3/flash/msb.html
 
I'm having a little bit of trouble with this one too.

It really depends on who you ask. More people seem to be telling me OSU, but a significant amount of people think Cinci is better, including the dean at Pitt (he specifically told me that Cinci was better than OSU, don't ask me why). If you look at US News, the peer assessment is even-steven, while the residency directors put OSU 1/10 higher. I don't care about area, neighborhood, etc. OSU has the new curriculum which may or may not combine the best aspects of blah blah blah, while Cinci has more hours in lecture and grades. Cinci has better technology available (at least that I saw), and a higher faculty to student ratio. Both schools are pumping a lot of money into new research facilities. My main deciding factor might just be the fact that OSU is a shorter drive if I want to visit my family, and that my sister is in undergrad there. Things get even more complicated if I get in off the WL at Case, or get into Pitt...
 
I would have to say that I agree wholeheartedly with perrum365's speculations! 🙂

I am also at OSU and (of course) most people around here bleed scarlet and gray, and would choose OSU hands down. However, after interviewing at Cinci, I found it to be a great program with friendly people and more up-to-date facilities than OSU.

To add my answer to the question being posed: the reputations of these 2 schools are virtually identical (outside of Columbus, of course...) Ultimately you just have to go with what best suits your personality and will make you happy for a minimum of 4 years. (I know, I know, you've heard it all before. 🙄 ) But it is really true.

Good Luck!!!
 
Tyson and Amy (but other UCers too),

I have heard a lot about the class being cohesive and warm and friendly. What about the school/class makes UC cohesive compared to another school? (btw, I really like Cincy, and it's my top choice at this point, but I just want to learn more about it). Everyone says go where you'll be happy, but I don't really know where that will be, as I think it's easier said than done, and harder to tell where that will be based on only one visit to the school. (Though I've had two, but really only one where I met students).

This might sound weird, but having gone out of state for undergrad, it's going to be a huge adjustment for me, coming back to Ohio (I've never been to Cincinnati before other than driving through it), and that's not including the main fact that I'm going to be in MEDICAL SCHOOL and bombarded with studying, etc. Catch what I'm saying? I just don't really know what to expect about it, starting in a new place, and I would hope that the transition would be as smooth as it was going to Duke. That's why I ask about the city/area surrounding in addition to what makes Cincinnati unique to you and friendly/warm. From my understanding, Cincinnati is a great school, but as with any med school, you do have to live there too. Your help and reassurance is much appreciated!

Thanks for your help and good luck with your studies!

DukeBluDevl02

P.S. Btw, is there a second look day at Cincy? If not, I think there should be...
 
I think that for anyone at any school it really matters THAT YOU MAKE YOURSELF HAPPY. It's not that Cincinnati makes me happy, its just that I find it really easy to have a good time here and meet a lot of people that are laid back and really honestly want to have a good time.

Here are some examples that I found to be somewhat "friendlier" than some other places that I was accepted at.

Pretty much everything is online, including old tests, answers, as well as old quizzes and lecture notes. This is great, but even better in that many students email out their own notes to the entire class, as well as things that they find helpful in learning. Several classmates have their own websites that they post stuff on to help everyone out.

About a trillion clubs that you can join, start, or just sit in on. Ranging from Outdoors club to Neurology. This wouldn't be that big of deal, but almost everyone makes you feel welcome just to come and hang out and try new things (sushi club).

Class diversity is a big plus. We have some people that had UC as a first choice, others had UC as a last choice, and many others inbetween from all over the US. It has definately lended itself to a "we're all in this together" mentality. This week one of our clubs that is minorities (SNMA) is having a week of cultural awareness. We've had pizza lunches, guest speakers, movie (John Q), and a play is tomorrow night. This wouldn't be that special but this happens almost weekly. A club comes and does a free lunch and/or info session etc. All are attended pretty well, and its free, plus its your club/or your friends.

Here are some other things that we are working on that might also be considered cohesive etc. all are pretty much funded/free
Pub Crawl (8 bars in 5 hours) w/ transportation
Dinners at faculty houses w/ small groups
Parties are given $ by the MSA. So there are plenty of apres class outings, money is no barrier to having a keg and cheese.
Winter Formal
Bake Off's
Talent Show
Malpractice Mixer (5 colleges- Law, Med, Nursing, Pharm, Allied Health at a bar)
Spring Formal
End of Year Party
And a ton of smaller gatherings etc

Bottom line is this. You make yourself happy, everyone could be partying and having a great time, and you could be miserable. I enjoy it here because I get involved, I get out, and I made friends. No school will do this for you, you must do it for yourself. At Cinci they at least set it up so you have multiple opportunities to make these friends etc. All schools are going to be great IF YOU MAKE IT GREAT, it just comes down to you and what will make you happy.

This is just my opinion, other people might hate it here, other people will love it. Bottom line is you.
 
Tyson,

Thanks so much for the advice. You and Amy as well a few other UCers seem to really browse these forums quite often, and always speak such great things about Cincinnati. It shows that you all really, really like it there. I got the same impression when I visited for my interview, and everyone I talked to during my day was extremely nice. For example, when I sat in on a class, one of the first years passed me his email if I had any questions and encouraged me and wished me luck on my interview. The other students I talked to (both my tour guides and a few others) were awesome, and I can home just completely enthusiastic about Cincy to my parents. But, the fact that you (as well as the other Cincinnati'ers) continue to browse this forum and recruit those of us who are applying, shows that Cincinnati truly is a great place to be, and provides not only a great place to get a medical education, but also an environment that positively allows (as you said) to make it the best for ourselves. You've put my concerns to rest and have completely sold me on Cincinnati. I hope that my fellow applicants and possible future classmates see the same thing! Great school with small class size and wonderful facilities, great city, great opportunities, great reputation, you can't beat that!

I can't wait for the pub crawl and the kegs and cheese!!

GO BLUE DEVILS and GO BEARCATS!
 
Originally posted by DukeBluDevl02
Tyson,

Thanks so much for the advice. You and Amy as well a few other UCers seem to really browse these forums quite often, and always speak such great things about Cincinnati. It shows that you all really, really like it there. I got the same impression when I visited for my interview, and everyone I talked to during my day was extremely nice. For example, when I sat in on a class, one of the first years passed me his email if I had any questions and encouraged me and wished me luck on my interview. The other students I talked to (both my tour guides and a few others) were awesome, and I can home just completely enthusiastic about Cincy to my parents. But, the fact that you (as well as the other Cincinnati'ers) continue to browse this forum and recruit those of us who are applying, shows that Cincinnati truly is a great place to be, and provides not only a great place to get a medical education, but also an environment that positively allows (as you said) to make it the best for ourselves. You've put my concerns to rest and have completely sold me on Cincinnati. I hope that my fellow applicants and possible future classmates see the same thing! Great school with small class size and wonderful facilities, great city, great opportunities, great reputation, you can't beat that!

I can't wait for the pub crawl and the kegs and cheese!!

GO BLUE DEVILS and GO BEARCATS!

Welcome to UC! 😀 :clap:

P.S. Who were your tour guides?
 
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