Which residencies demand research?

[bobsagat]

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Hey folks, I apologize if this has been asked already, but I have a few ideas for what kind of residency I might be interested in and I hear that more competitive residencies really like to see some kind of research on your resume. Which specialties are really interested in seeing that? Would a competitive residency for a specialty that is generally considered less competitive (i.e. family practice at Mayo) also want to see research, or is it strictly the specialty that governs this?

Thanks!

 

[alwaysaangel]

A place like Mayo would probably want to see research, and would definitely require it to be done to complete the residency program.

 

[Mr hawkings]

Hey folks, I apologize if this has been asked already, but I have a few ideas for what kind of residency I might be interested in and I hear that more competitive residencies really like to see some kind of research on your resume. Which specialties are really interested in seeing that? Would a competitive residency for a specialty that is generally considered less competitive (i.e. family practice at Mayo) also want to see research, or is it strictly the specialty that governs this?

Thanks!

Are you asking which specialties require research to get into or which programs require residents to do research as part of their requirement for completeing the program.

 

[WellWornLad]

All the data you could want is already out there.

Go here:

http://www.nrmp.org/data/index.html

Click on this:

Charting Outcomes in the Match: Characteristics of Applicants Who Matched to Their Preferred Specialty in the 2007 NRMP Main Residency Match (2nd edition)

Download the pdf and go to page 18, where you will see charts labeled "median probability of matching to preferred specialty by number of research experiences" and "publications." You will also see that data is presented only for independent applicants because for U.S. seniors there is no significant effect of research on probability of matching, even among competitive specialties.

Then you can scroll down to your residency of choice and see how many research "experiences" or publications applicants had, and what proportion matched or didn't match according to number of research experiences, publications, etc.

 

[bobsagat]

Are you asking which specialties require research to get into or which programs require residents to do research as part of their requirement for completeing the program.

I mean to get in.

All the data you could want is already out there.

Go here:

http://www.nrmp.org/data/index.html

Click on this:

Charting Outcomes in the Match: Characteristics of Applicants Who Matched to Their Preferred Specialty in the 2007 NRMP Main Residency Match (2nd edition)

Download the pdf and go to page 18, where you will see charts labeled "median probability of matching to preferred specialty by number of research experiences" and "publications." You will also see that data is presented only for independent applicants because for U.S. seniors there is no significant effect of research on probability of matching, even among competitive specialties.

Then you can scroll down to your residency of choice and see how many research "experiences" or publications applicants had, and what proportion matched or didn't match according to number of research experiences, publications, etc.

Thanks, I'll check these out.

 

[Pinkertinkle]

Download the pdf and go to page 18, where you will see charts labeled "median probability of matching to preferred specialty by number of research experiences" and "publications." You will also see that data is presented only for independent applicants because for U.S. seniors there is no significant effect of research on probability of matching, even among competitive specialties.

Then you can scroll down to your residency of choice and see how many research "experiences" or publications applicants had, and what proportion matched or didn't match according to number of research experiences, publications, etc.

The problem with the charting outcomes data is it lumps everything remotely research related into the publications category:

"The ERAS application also permits applicants to list their publications. This information is self-reported and may include peer-reviewed articles, abstracts, poster sessions, and invited national or regional presentations."

As you can see this doesn't tell us much at all about the quality or quantity of research done, so I would hesitate to draw the conclusion of no significant difference.

 

[WellWornLad]

As you can see this doesn't tell us much at all about the quality or quantity of research done, so I would hesitate to draw the conclusion of no significant difference.

Actually, it does tell us the quantity. As for quality, you can at least draw best case/worst case scenarios. For all the anxiety over research expressed on this forum, it's reassuring that a good deal of people with zero reported research activities match in competitive specialties. Nothing ambiguous about that.

 

[lisichka]

which specialties are considered more research-intensive? heme-onc? what else?

 

[ChubbyChaser]

From what I understand the only specialty where you will really really be lacking if you dont have research is Rad-Onc.

 

[starfishprime]

which specialties are considered more research-intensive? heme-onc? what else?

I would posit neurosurgery being as they tend to have two-ish research years out of 7 total.

 

[lisichka]

I would posit neurosurgery being as they tend to have two-ish research years out of 7 total.

i don't mean research during training. i wanted to know about specialties where research is major AFTER training. in other words, "academic" specialties where one would attract the majority of patients by working in a major research center like sloan-kettering or cornell, rather then being in private practice. I always thought that Cancer patients first look up big centers, and choose a doctor based on affiliation with that center. that's where an oncologist who's not on the forefront of cancer research, and who's not affiliated with such a major center, but just a simple doctor in private practice would lose out.

i don;t know😕 maybe that's not how that works.

 

[BoxingTheStars]

ortho residencies want to see research, preferably in the field of ortho, from what i've heard (from a couple MDs and some 4th year students that successfully matched).... really no idea on any other specialties. generally the more competitive a specialty is, the more likely they are to want to see some research on your application.

 

[bananaking]

Every patient in psychiatry can be part of your research. 😉

 

[GeorgeMichael B]

pathology is research driven and they tend to like it on your cv