Which schools don't require a letter from a DO

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I have having a tough time getting one at the last min. I am in NY and you would think this would be an easy thing to do but most DOs here don't really have the time to do these things.
 
ppg said:
I have having a tough time getting one at the last min. I am in NY and you would think this would be an easy thing to do but most DOs here don't really have the time to do these things.

You can pick a family physician in your area and make an appointment to see him. I'm sure you have some kind of "problems" that need to been seen by a doc. Take the chance to talk to him and ask him in person. 🙂 If that doesn't work you can always ask his/her superior that way he/she will have to 🙂. It works, I know.
 
also dmu and unecom. unecom requires a professional letter and states that it would be optimal to have a do letter, but it's not required. dmu requires a letter from someone you've worked with or shadowed in a health care setting. it could be by a supervisor, volunteer coordinator, md, nurse or whomever.
 
My fiancee and I are students at UNECOM and were accepted w/o LOR from and Osteopathic physician. We tried to shaddow DO's in VT but the Osteopathic organization there never get back to us.

We did send primary applications to NYCOM and never received secondaries from them because we didn't have LOR from DO's. I heard the same story from others.

If you want to be considered for NYCOM, get a letter from a DO.
 
FutureDocDO said:
You can pick a family physician in your area and make an appointment to see him. I'm sure you have some kind of "problems" that need to been seen by a doc. Take the chance to talk to him and ask him in person. 🙂 If that doesn't work you can always ask his/her superior that way he/she will have to 🙂. It works, I know.

I'm not an FP but I am a DO in practice and I don't think that I would respond too favorably to this approach. I would consider it manipulative, especially the latter part. Also how good or helpful of a letter can I write about someone who I have known for perhaps 30 minutes in the context of a phony office visit, especially under the current HIPPA guidelines 😉 ? [Also this borders on health care fraud if you get technical] That said I did write a letter of support for a patient (who had been my patient for 2 years prior to applying to Osteopathic programs). I could comment on their growth, some of their personality characteristics that made them well suited for the profession, and their motivation for medicine as many of these things came up over the course of our physician-patient relationship.

I suppose I was fortunate that my interest in Osteopathic Medicine came from working with DOs in clinical or research settings. I got letters from one of the bureau chiefs at our state health department (I was doing an internship there at the time I was applying and I had known him for about a year before I started the internship so he could comment on who I was as a person) and two of the preventive medicine residents offered to write "alumni support letters" as I was applying to medical schools they had graduated from.
 
RuralMedicine said:
I'm not an FP but I am a DO in practice and I don't think that I would respond too favorably to this approach. I would consider it manipulative, especially the latter part. Also how good or helpful of a letter can I write about someone who I have known for perhaps 30 minutes in the context of a phony office visit, especially under the current HIPPA guidelines 😉 ? [Also this borders on health care fraud if you get technical] That said I did write a letter of support for a patient (who had been my patient for 2 years prior to applying to Osteopathic programs). I could comment on their growth, some of their personality characteristics that made them well suited for the profession, and their motivation for medicine as many of these things came up over the course of our physician-patient relationship.

I suppose I was fortunate that my interest in Osteopathic Medicine came from working with DOs in clinical or research settings. I got letters from one of the bureau chiefs at our state health department (I was doing an internship there at the time I was applying and I had known him for about a year before I started the internship so he could comment on who I was as a person) and two of the preventive medicine residents offered to write "alumni support letters" as I was applying to medical schools they had graduated from.

I am lucky in that I got a letter today from a teaching professor at NYCOM. I had to work my behind off to get this as most DOs seem like they forgot how it was a premed and just don't give a damn now.
 
ppg said:
I am lucky in that I got a letter today from a teaching professor at NYCOM. I had to work my behind off to get this as most DOs seem like they forgot how it was a premed and just don't give a damn now.
You're right about that. It is so damn hard to get a letter.
 
RuralMedicine said:
I'm not an FP but I am a DO in practice and I don't think that I would respond too favorably to this approach. I would consider it manipulative, especially the latter part. Also how good or helpful of a letter can I write about someone who I have known for perhaps 30 minutes in the context of a phony office visit, especially under the current HIPPA guidelines 😉 ? [Also this borders on health care fraud if you get technical] That said I did write a letter of support for a patient (who had been my patient for 2 years prior to applying to Osteopathic programs). I could comment on their growth, some of their personality characteristics that made them well suited for the profession, and their motivation for medicine as many of these things came up over the course of our physician-patient relationship.

I suppose I was fortunate that my interest in Osteopathic Medicine came from working with DOs in clinical or research settings. I got letters from one of the bureau chiefs at our state health department (I was doing an internship there at the time I was applying and I had known him for about a year before I started the internship so he could comment on who I was as a person) and two of the preventive medicine residents offered to write "alumni support letters" as I was applying to medical schools they had graduated from.
You just happen to get a letter from the bureau chiefs of your state health department? Right. Are you sure you didn't plan it out and started seeking for ways to do an internship with him? And once you got the internship I'm sure you did not put any effort in to get personal with him so he could, later on, write you a well thought out letter. Yeah right.
 
FutureDocDO said:
You just happen to get a letter from the bureau chiefs of your state health department? Right. Are you sure you didn't plan it out and started seeking for ways to do an internship with him? And once you got the internship I'm sure you did not put any effort in to get personal with him so he could, later on, write you a well thought out letter. Yeah right.

I suppose I was the atypical applicant because I kind of just lived my life and figured that things would work out in the end. I actually worked more directly with another bureau chief during my internship than the person who wrote my DO letters (my more immediate supervisor was a MD) so he didn't figure at all into my decision to do an internship. I met him when he lectured in one of my classes and had spoken to him about some of his lecture which I thought was interesting (at the time I wasn't even sure I would be applying to medical school and I was even less aware of the DO distinction). Over the course of a conversation we discussed EIS as he had done that which I thought was incredibly cool. So believe it or not the answer to your question is no.

I never said I wouldn't be willing to write a letter for a student. I suppose even in the scenario you outlined I would if I was "forced" to (although I don't really see my Chief of Staff or CEO making me do this so I suppose I'm safe), but I might feel the need to be candid about why I was writing the letter and how well I knew the student so it probably wouldn't help the student's cause any. Now if a student contacted me to discuss Osteopathic Medicine and why I chose to be a DO not MD then I'd be more than happy to talk to them the two scenarios are very different. I'm sorry that you can't see that.
 
kelaskov said:
We did send primary applications to NYCOM and never received secondaries from them because we didn't have LOR from DO's. I heard the same story from others.

If you want to be considered for NYCOM, get a letter from a DO.

NYCOM states in clear, unambiguous English that a letter is not required.

I did not have a letter.
 
hey beast - were u a NY resident when applying? NYCOM is my number one choice, i will be applying this spring, although i reside in jersey.
 
WVSOM will take an MD letter if necesary.
 
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