Who got in Pharmacy school with a low despicable gpa! Help me Keep Hope Alive!

[missy1984]

I have too many college credits. Even with straights As Post Bacculerate. I cant pull up my gpa enough. Should I quit or keep hope alive. I took a GPA calculator and I said I would need 60 credits of straights A before I can get a 3.0 overall average. UGH!!!🙁 Please post what your GPA was ad where!

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[AbsoluteEthanol]

I have too many college credits. Even with straights As Post Bacculerate. I cant pull up my gpa enough. Should I quit or keep hope alive. I took a GPA calculator and I said I would need 60 credits of straights A before I can get a 3.0 overall average. UGH!!!🙁 Please post what your GPA was ad where!

well, i got in with a 2.75. However, don't forget that if you have any F's Pharmcas will weigh those in as well, so your GPA is likely even lower than you anticipate. Mine was a 3.3 without repeats!

Jeez, 60 units of straight A's... that's pretty rough right there

 

[krs1]

I have too many college credits. Even with straights As Post Bacculerate. I cant pull up my gpa enough. Should I quit or keep hope alive. I took a GPA calculator and I said I would need 60 credits of straights A before I can get a 3.0 overall average. UGH!!!🙁 Please post what your GPA was ad where!

What might make it possible for you is to take the prereqs (over if need be) and make excellent grades, and then apply to a school that has an academic forgiveness program, where they only consider the grades for the prereqs. I know USN has that. Anyone know of any others?

 

[missy1984]

All my pre-req classes I have As in. Which I took post bacculerate its just my finance degree i have a low gpa and I looked on pharmcas and for my overall gpa they did not add my post bacclerate gpa in because my overall is the same as underdergrad gpa. Now if pharmcas calculate all my courses then I only need 30 credits of straight A's.

 

[missy1984]

Does any other school have academic forgiveness. There is HOPE!!!!!!

 

[BeautifullyMade]

Does any other school have academic forgiveness. There is HOPE!!!!!!

Check out the "I never thought i would get in" post in this forum. It should be on page 1.

good luck

 

[tk1tpod]

The only school that offers academic forgiveness that I know of is USN

 

[tootoo30]

Try pharmacy schools that go strictly off of your prerequiste GPA. The two that I know of off hand from research is Xavier and UF. They look only at your prerequisites and Xavier does grade replacement meaning if you got an F in a class and take it over and get an A then they only count the A. Now that's what's up!

 

[MeHungryRx]

I have too many college credits. Even with straights As Post Bacculerate. I cant pull up my gpa enough. Should I quit or keep hope alive. I took a GPA calculator and I said I would need 60 credits of straights A before I can get a 3.0 overall average. UGH!!!🙁 Please post what your GPA was ad where!

Do you mean 60 quarter or semester units? It does make a difference...

 

[Farmer83]

I posted up my testimony in the "I never thought I would get in" topic. But yeah, I was just in the same situation as you. I've logged over 200 semester hours. It would've taken me about 45-60 more semester hours to get the 3.0. Thankfully, I got in with a 2.80. I brought up my GPA from a 2.4, my junior year, to a 2.8 from taking classes three years after my junior year, and another year of post bacc classes. Yeah it's kinda sad that only moved up about a 0.1 of a point each year. But it was well worth the work. I finally got in this year and key is to not lose hope. That year of the 2.4 GPA I was put on academic probation twice, and I met with an academic advisor. She strongly discouraged me from pursuing pharmacy. She said that I wouldn't get in anywhere. So you know what I did? I got a second opinion and met with a different advisor. 🙂 This guy said, "If you know that's what you want to do in life, go for it. You can do it. Just work hard to bring your GPA back up." I even met with my major/department advisor before I graduated and she doubted my chances. She kept asking, "So what are your plans if you don't get in?" (At that time I had a 2.67).

So yes, it'll be difficult, but if you work hard and if you know that's what you want to do. Don't give up. 🙂

 

[RNtoPharmD]

hey missy1984. Same as the comment above, try pharmacy schools that strictly look at pre-req GPA. Call them and find out!!! There are some of those eg.. Ferris State U., I am not sure about Temple U.
You got all A from pre-req. that's pretty good!! That means you got 4.0 pre-req GPA. That's cool!!

 

[missy1984]

I posted up my testimony in the "I never thought I would get in" topic. But yeah, I was just in the same situation as you. I've logged over 200 semester hours. It would've taken me about 45-60 more semester hours to get the 3.0. Thankfully, I got in with a 2.80. I brought up my GPA from a 2.4, my junior year, to a 2.8 from taking classes three years after my junior year, and another year of post bacc classes. Yeah it's kinda sad that only moved up about a 0.1 of a point each year. But it was well worth the work. I finally got in this year and key is to not lose hope. That year of the 2.4 GPA I was put on academic probation twice, and I met with an academic advisor. She strongly discouraged me from pursuing pharmacy. She said that I wouldn't get in anywhere. So you know what I did? I got a second opinion and met with a different advisor. 🙂 This guy said, "If you know that's what you want to do in life, go for it. You can do it. Just work hard to bring your GPA back up." I even met with my major/department advisor before I graduated and she doubted my chances. She kept asking, "So what are your plans if you don't get in?" (At that time I had a 2.67).

So yes, it'll be difficult, but if you work hard and if you know that's what you want to do. Don't give up. 🙂

Yes!! thanks for you story! Where did you get in at also where did you apply also what was you pcat score? Or maybe I will pm you!

 

[missy1984]

Thank you everyone for responding!

 

[cdpiano27]

Did you take the PCAT? If that is high, I recommend that you move to Florida, work a job as a pharm tech, and establish residency after one year so you can apply to UF.

UF is a terrific school, and they ONLY look at prereq GPA and specifically:

Physics I/II
Calculus I
Chemistry I/II
Organic Chemistry I/II
Anatomy and Physiology I/II
General Biology I/II

and that is it!

You need a high PCAT. What did you get on PCAT? 85 and above should be in good shape for UF considering you have 4.0 prereq.


There is someone else on this board who had many F's and W's from their first year in college but got 99 PCAT and 4.0 prereq, and despite their gpa being 2 point something he got in.

I don't remember the person as it was a few years ago, and that person graduated.


UF's order of importance is:

1. PCAT, 2. PREREQ GPA, 3. pharamcy experience / extracurriculuar activities.

with PCAT weighed the heaviest (they want 85+ and 90's would look good composite), and a GPA prereq preferred of >=3.6

After one year of working in Florida, you can then get residency and apply to one of four campuses.

 

[cdpiano27]

And then on top of that, you would get in-state tuition, after becoming a resident. But you need to establish residency in Florida first. You can maybe even move to Gainesville.

 

[Lau70]

There's a new school in CA, California Northstate (web: http://www.calnorthstate.org/page.aspx?pid=1 ), which requires that "All mathematics and science courses must be repeated if they are 6 years or older at the time the application is submitted."

I'm not sure if this situation applies to you, but I hope this helps.

Also, as someone else already mentioned, University of Southern Nevada has a great academic forgiveness policy. Here's the exerpt from their website:

"An applicant can request that the Admissions Office only include grades from the last five years to calculate overall and prerequisite grade point averages.
Example: If you apply for fall, 2008, and request academic forgiveness (check box on USN application) grades before January 1, 2003 will not be calculated. Your credit hours are still valid and any degrees you have received will still be counted.
However, applicants making this request must complete all required prerequisites within the last five years."

I was in a similar situation and balanced my low GPA with a good PCAT score. It can be done... good luck

 

[RNtoPharmD]

UF's order of importance is:

1. PCAT, 2. PREREQ GPA, 3. pharamcy experience / extracurriculuar activities.

with PCAT weighed the heaviest (they want 85+ and 90's would look good composite), and a GPA prereq preferred of >=3.6

cdpiano27,
Seem like you know the inside about many schools!! How about UGA's order of importance? Do they weigh heavily on PCAT too? Their avg PCAT is like 90 somethings😱

My PCAT is 87%. My pre-req is probably around ~3.6, depending on what courses they use as a pre-req.

Could you share the info? This is the only school I can get in-state tuition from.

 

[cdpiano27]

Unfortunately, UGA's AVERAGE prereq GPA (they only care about prereq GPA)
is 3.7, and you have posted you only have 3.4

And their average PCAT is 94.

AND they are very anal on stats even more so than UF. So I do not think that you will get an interview from them. But you NEVER know. Some people on this forum got into Temple with way lower than average GPA even for there. But did you get a rejection letter yet, or no notification?

I am a biostatistics PHD student but my aunt is a pharmacist in FL so I know A LOT about the schools since many students from PBA, Nova, UF, and FAMU have done rotations at that particular Walgreens she works at. She graduated from MCPHS-Boston in 1985, and it was a very tough school to finish (they failed a lot of students out of the program then).

I have done internships in the pharmaceutical industry, so I know some about the industry sector. If you want the industry sector, go ahead and get a PhD in pharmacokinetics. That is one of the hottest areas for industry.

This applies to foreign students who have a hard time paying for PharmD or getting into schools. IF you can get into a PhD program for pharmaceutics, your pay in industry will only be slightly lower than that of a pharmacist, and you will not have all that debt, since school is free with stipend.

RNtoPharmD, congratulations on getting into three schools already though!

Is Temple, where you are waitlisted, at state school for PA?

I know Jefferson in Philadelphia is private, but I thought they were mostly a medical school.

 

[RNtoPharmD]

Unfortunately, UGA's AVERAGE prereq GPA (they only care about prereq GPA)is 3.7, and you have posted you only have 3.4. And their average PCAT is 94.
No, mine is around 3.6 for pre-req but that depends on what they will include in pre-req. But according your info, seem like my chance is slim😛.

I have done internships in the pharmaceutical industry, so I know some about the industry sector. If you want the industry sector, go ahead and get a PhD in pharmacokinetics. That is one of the hottest areas for industry.
Cool. I know that Mercer has PharmD/PhD program. I will have interview with them next month. Don't know if I will be accepted yet. They might have even filled the class already

Is Temple, where you are waitlisted, at state school for PA?
Yes. I was put on Alternate list at Temple.

I know Jefferson in Philadelphia is private, but I thought they were mostly a medical school.
Yes, they are private. They have affiliated health system. They just started pharmacy school this year. They have earned pre-candidate status.They have medical school, nursing school and other allied health school.. and also graduate programs in sciences.

Thanks for sharing info!!

 

[bekman]

Also Ole' Miss only looks at Pre-reqs and Purdue only the last 5 years.

 

[Oaktownhomeboy]

It was too much work to write it all over again...so I'm gonna copy and repost what I did in another thread.


Like the numerous post above that I have had the privilege of reading, I too would have to say, "Don't give up if Pharmacy is truly what you wanna do."

I graduated back on 2004 with a BA in Biology. At the time, my overall gpa was around a 2.5. I knew I waned to pursue pharmacy, but knew my application wasn't very competitive.. and so I decided to put off applying that year.

In the next 3 years, I retook classes to improve my gpa, gained valuable work experience by working as a certified tech for Longs Pharmacy, and studied hard to score well on the pcats. I took the pcats 3 times, where I eventually settled on a composite score of 83%.

I applied for the first time to Pharmacy school for the Fall of 2007. I applied to over 20 schools, but received only 1 interview, to which I got waitlisted to but never accepted. During that cycle, my science gpa was 2.3 and my overal gpa was about 2.6. I was originally discouraged, thinking that I would never get in. But with encouraging words from friends and family, I was determined to get in for Fall 2008.

I continued to work and retook a lot of pre-req courses. When I applied again this year, my stats had improved from the past cycle. I had a 2.5 science gpa, and a cumulative gpa of 2.86. Though, they were not the best stats, I still tried. This time around, I received 2 interviews and was accepted into both programs. I'm excited to start school in the fall.

For me, it has always been about the end result, and not the path taken to get there. It doesn't matter how long or how many times you have to apply. If you really want to pursue Pharmacy, you will get in. If i could do it after take 3+ years off from getting my BA degree, and with such sub par stats, it should give hope to everyone else out there.

Good Luck to everyone still waiting and congratulations to everyone who has gotten in.

 

[Chill Pill]

I have a mediocre GPA for my pre-reqs, but I have 2 years of upper division work left. Would it be possible to show an upward trend even if the courses aren't required for the pharmacy schools?

 

[RxShazzie]

I have a mediocre GPA for my pre-reqs, but I have 2 years of upper division work left. Would it be possible to show an upward trend even if the courses aren't required for the pharmacy schools?

i'm in the same boat as you chill pill! from what i've gathered, we still have time left to bring up our gpas. i'm going to retake any classes i can in that time too to help as well.

 

[phuang06]

I have a mediocre GPA for my pre-reqs, but I have 2 years of upper division work left. Would it be possible to show an upward trend even if the courses aren't required for the pharmacy schools?

upward trend is always good. If the upper division work are classes that play off of pre-reqs (pchem, etc) then getting an A in those courses would definitely play to your advantage. As I said, upward trend is always good. 👍

Too bad if you start out with a 4.0, the only place to go is stay the same or more likely, downward. I went down from a 4.0 to a 3.92. Hopefully bringing it back up this semester to a 3.95.

Good luck with your courses!

 

[inquirer89]

Do you guys know what the schools generally look for in people who apply without a degree? Specifically, 2 year pre-req students who go straight into pharmacy school. I know that they like very high scores, but is it always necessary?

I have a mediocre gpa (that I'm trying my best to pick up), and will be taking the PCAT later this year, but I do have a lot of extracurriculars and 3 years of hospital pharmacy volunteering (and hopefully a retail clerk job this summer). I'm pretty sure that my LORs are strong enough and that I can hold well in an interview.

I will be applying to UNC, Campbell, and a few others.

 

[uncinmyheart]

I like this thread a lot! I'm in the same situation. My pre-req grades aren't that great, and I had a really bad year last year so my GPA suffered BIG TIME, so I'm retaking those courses I did bad in. I only intend on applying to UNC, but I don't think they're one of those schools that only look at your pre-req grades....i'm not sure....

 

[uncinmyheart]

I have a mediocre GPA for my pre-reqs, but I have 2 years of upper division work left. Would it be possible to show an upward trend even if the courses aren't required for the pharmacy schools?

that's a good question because i was wondering the same thing too. i'm retaking some of the science pre-req courses that i did bad in, but i'm a biology major so i still have some courses left that aren't pre-reqs that i have to complete.

 

[inquirer89]

UNCinMyHeart, are you a student currently in NC?

 

[risen]

Hi, like, I really really really want to be a pharmacist more than anybody but I never put in the effort to earn good grades. I'm going to start now though. Can somebody please tell me it's going to be OK?

 

[BADD281]

Hi, like, I really really really want to be a pharmacist more than anybody but I never put in the effort to earn good grades. I'm going to start now though. Can somebody please tell me it's going to be OK?

How can you say you want to be a pharmacist more than anybody but yet you don't put forth the effort to earn good grades...? I am incredibly sympathetic with others on this topic (mainly b/c I overcame a lot to get where I am) but to me this just sounds like pure laziness. I cannot say I was ever the ideal student but I was never lazy. I think you need to understand what your getting yourself into, pharmacy school is not going to be easy and undergrad is really good practice in preparing yourself for it!

With all this said and my vent out of the way...It will be "OK" if you turn your academics around...but I don't know your specific situation, how many credits do you have? Whats your overall GPA? What did you do in biology and chemistry? A lot depends on how far you are...For me I messed up all my freshman year (making some C's) but after that year I didn't have a single C or a semester GPA lower than 3.4. You have to prove to the adcom. that you can without a shadow of a doubt do the work - a huge uptrend in grades is really a must! From here on out study like you have everything to lose because honestly you do. Anyone can get into pharmacy school if they truly want it bad enough, it just takes a lot of work to show the schools that. I wish you the best of luck and I'm sorry if this reply comes across negatively, its just the truth. PM me if you want anything in particular... I'm here to help!

 

[rxin15mins]

I had a overall GPA and science GPA under 3.0 😱
PCAT composite UNDER 40! 😱

SO advice for other applicants like me:

EXPERIENCE helps a lot! I have about 5 years experience as a CPHT
get LORS from pharmacists
Apply to NON PCAT school if u did horrible on the PCAT. I did so bad on verbal and math. But I should of review math since I have taken a math class over 5 years.

I guess I got lucky! but yeah, if u get an INTERVIEW, just be yourself and speak up.

 

[uncinmyheart]

UNCinMyHeart, are you a student currently in NC?

yep 🙂

 

[FixLittlePeople]

I had a 2.78 in about 180 credit hours over 6 years of undergrad before I started my pre-reqs (also earned a B.S. in Information Systems). I since completed 54 hours of prereqs (only sciences) with a 4.0 over 2.5 years while working 40 hrs a week continously supporting my family of 5 and raised my overall gpa to just a hair above 3.0.

I took the PCAT after i was done with prereqs and got an 88% composite with the following breakdown:
55% verbal
96% biology
67% reading
93% math
82% chemistry

I was offered an interview during the 1st batch of interviews at UT Austin and 2 weeks later got my e-mail of acceptance. (UT was one of two schools I applied to due to location restrainsts)

I would say if you want it bad enough, you can do anything.

 

[inquirer89]

Uncinmyheart:

Cool. I'm at UNCG right now. Are you going to go to one of the UNC pharm school sessions? They have two dates in April; I'll be there on the 4th.

 

[myru0127]

It was too much work to write it all over again...so I'm gonna copy and repost what I did in another thread.


Like the numerous post above that I have had the privilege of reading, I too would have to say, "Don't give up if Pharmacy is truly what you wanna do."

I graduated back on 2004 with a BA in Biology. At the time, my overall gpa was around a 2.5. I knew I waned to pursue pharmacy, but knew my application wasn't very competitive.. and so I decided to put off applying that year.

In the next 3 years, I retook classes to improve my gpa, gained valuable work experience by working as a certified tech for Longs Pharmacy, and studied hard to score well on the pcats. I took the pcats 3 times, where I eventually settled on a composite score of 83%.

I applied for the first time to Pharmacy school for the Fall of 2007. I applied to over 20 schools, but received only 1 interview, to which I got waitlisted to but never accepted. During that cycle, my science gpa was 2.3 and my overal gpa was about 2.6. I was originally discouraged, thinking that I would never get in. But with encouraging words from friends and family, I was determined to get in for Fall 2008.

I continued to work and retook a lot of pre-req courses. When I applied again this year, my stats had improved from the past cycle. I had a 2.5 science gpa, and a cumulative gpa of 2.86. Though, they were not the best stats, I still tried. This time around, I received 2 interviews and was accepted into both programs. I'm excited to start school in the fall.

For me, it has always been about the end result, and not the path taken to get there. It doesn't matter how long or how many times you have to apply. If you really want to pursue Pharmacy, you will get in. If i could do it after take 3+ years off from getting my BA degree, and with such sub par stats, it should give hope to everyone else out there.

Good Luck to everyone still waiting and congratulations to everyone who has gotten in.

I have a question for Oaktownhomeboy,
How did you retake a lot of the courses? Did you go back to your previous school? Because I already graduted from my school UCD, therefore I don't think I can go back and retake classes unless I go through extension.
Plus, my school doesn't allow me to retake if it's an C. ( Most of my bad grades are C)

 

[rxlea]

Way to revive a two year old thread! I applaud you in your use of the search function! 🙂

Just for that, I am going to pause mid bite from my dreyers thin mint girl scout cookie ice cream to answer you (since this oaktown boy is probably not around much anymore) 🙂

You do not have to go back to your school, although if you are applying to a school that "prefers" courses from a 4 year, I suggest it. Since you are graduated, you can go post-bacc.

First, we need more info on your situation...stats?

 

[rxellie]

I had a overall GPA and science GPA under 3.0 😱
PCAT composite UNDER 40! 😱

SO advice for other applicants like me:

EXPERIENCE helps a lot! I have about 5 years experience as a CPHT
get LORS from pharmacists
Apply to NON PCAT school if u did horrible on the PCAT. I did so bad on verbal and math. But I should of review math since I have taken a math class over 5 years.

I guess I got lucky! but yeah, if u get an INTERVIEW, just be yourself and speak up.

thanks for sharing!! you give me hope because we almost have the same stats! i have TONS of experience and that is what i am going with🙂

 

[Moni526]

I got in with a 2.88 science/math GPA and 3.12 overall. I will say this until I am blue in the face: I AM IN NO WAY PROUD OF MY GPA. I screwed around my first few years of college and could have done much better. But I am the glimmer of hope you should have. If you want more stats of mine, PM me and I will tell all. But yes it is possible!

 

[wishuponapharm]

I am also in a similar position. Have about a 3.0 gpa overall and a 71 PCAT. I also have about 220 credits, so my gpa really isn't moving anywhere. I have been interviewed at two schools and am waiting to get an invite from a third.

To the original poster....you seriously got straight A's on all your prereq? I know many of us would be extremely confident if we got straight A's. You shouldn't be too worried then, unless your overall gpa falls below the minimum requirements.

 

[ChEStud]

I'm just a freshman right now, but does anyone know how much pharmacy admission counselors weigh your major (with maybe a low gpa) into admissions? Say I have a 3.3 GPA as a Chemical Engineering Major with an 85 PCAT vs. a 4.0 Biology Major with the same PCAT score

 

[Passion4Sci]

I'm just a freshman right now, but does anyone know how much pharmacy admission counselors weigh your major (with maybe a low gpa) into admissions? Say I have a 3.3 GPA as a Chemical Engineering Major with an 85 PCAT vs. a 4.0 Biology Major with the same PCAT score

It'd have to come down to "softs" - ECs, experience, age, LoRs.

 

[ChEStud]

It'd have to come down to "softs" - ECs, experience, age, LoRs.

Are you saying most Pharm Schools are biased on age? Do they prefer older or younger students?

 

[Passion4Sci]

Are you saying most Pharm Schools are biased on age? Do they prefer older or younger students?

Mmmm, I wouldn't say specifically age by itself (interesting how you ignored the rest and focused on age, though) but rather, maturity as a function of age. If I had the choice of a 19 year-old with limited world view and life experience with virtually the same "softs" as a 26 year-old with more experience, more life experience, and a more expanded world view (read: maturity) I'd take the 26 year-old every time.

Chronology doesn't always denote maturity and vice versa but we're talking theory here, and for the same reason law schools state they'd prefer an applicant with some life experience to someone fresh out of school, I believe pharmacy is very similar.

 

[Carboxide]

Mmmm, I wouldn't say specifically age by itself (interesting how you ignored the rest and focused on age, though) but rather, maturity as a function of age. If I had the choice of a 19 year-old with limited world view and life experience with virtually the same "softs" as a 26 year-old with more experience, more life experience, and a more expanded world view (read: maturity) I'd take the 26 year-old every time.

Chronology doesn't always denote maturity and vice versa but we're talking theory here, and for the same reason law schools state they'd prefer an applicant with some life experience to someone fresh out of school, I believe pharmacy is very similar.

I sure as hell wouldn't take the older student. I find older students to be a huge hassle in my classes. They tend to be underprepared most of the time, spend a lot of time complaining and talking about their children, and worst of all, in group project situations can never meet deadlines or provide a time to meet with the group. Even when they do agree, they are always the one who doesn't show up with not even an email sent to the rest of the group. Their pre-reqs are way too old half the time (in one of my classes with a lot of non-traditional students, over half of them took the pre-req more than 10 years ago!). If you're motivated enough to get into pharmacy school at 19, I trust that a hell of a lot more than someone that will DEFINITELY leave their group out to dry the minute Billy has a soccer game.

 

[Passion4Sci]

I sure as hell wouldn't take the older student. I find older students to be a huge hassle in my classes. They tend to be underprepared most of the time, spend a lot of time complaining and talking about their children, and worst of all, in group project situations can never meet deadlines or provide a time to meet with the group. Even when they do agree, they are always the one who doesn't show up with not even an email sent to the rest of the group. Their pre-reqs are way too old half the time (in one of my classes with a lot of non-traditional students, over half of them took the pre-req more than 10 years ago!). If you're motivated enough to get into pharmacy school at 19, I trust that a hell of a lot more than someone that will DEFINITELY leave their group out to dry the minute Billy has a soccer game.

There are always outliers to any general rule.

As a general rule, age brings maturity, responsibility, respect and a critical thinking skill set not found in younger people.

You can take any rule and find exceptions to it if you look hard enough.

 

[phathead]

These were my stats I applied with - http://www.iwanttobeapharmacist.com/2009/08/my-pharmacy-school-admissions-stats.html

I've been accepted to two schools, waitlisted on two others.

It definitely is not an easy road.

 

[sashagrl259]

In no way, shape, or form am I trying to be mean or offensive (just realistic) when I say this, but if it seems as though many people's gpas suffered because they had a difficult time with the pre-requisite classes (and I mean only the classes, I understand outside circumstances can affect academics, too), isn't it a given that those are pre-reqs for a reason? Not only to "weed" out students, but to give them a feel for the rigors of pharmacy school academics? Are any pre-pharm students concerned that they won't be able to keep up?

 

[bozeefus]

I sure as hell wouldn't take the older student. I find older students to be a huge hassle in my classes. They tend to be underprepared most of the time, spend a lot of time complaining and talking about their children, and worst of all, in group project situations can never meet deadlines or provide a time to meet with the group. Even when they do agree, they are always the one who doesn't show up with not even an email sent to the rest of the group. Their pre-reqs are way too old half the time (in one of my classes with a lot of non-traditional students, over half of them took the pre-req more than 10 years ago!). If you're motivated enough to get into pharmacy school at 19, I trust that a hell of a lot more than someone that will DEFINITELY leave their group out to dry the minute Billy has a soccer game.

Strange, I find the complete opposite. In my anatomy and p.chem classes, there were students who were 30+. They were definitely the more hard-working bunch. Not sure how they are in group projects though...

 

[phathead]

In no way, shape, or form am I trying to be mean or offensive (just realistic) when I say this, but if it seems as though many people's gpas suffered because they had a difficult time with the pre-requisite classes (and I mean only the classes, I understand outside circumstances can affect academics, too), isn't it a given that those are pre-reqs for a reason? Not only to "weed" out students, but to give them a feel for the rigors of pharmacy school academics? Are any pre-pharm students concerned that they won't be able to keep up?

I just screwed around too much my first two years. I think it says something that I knew the material for the PCAT, I just didn't do so hot in the actual class

 

[Sparda29]

I have a question for Oaktownhomeboy,
How did you retake a lot of the courses? Did you go back to your previous school? Because I already graduted from my school UCD, therefore I don't think I can go back and retake classes unless I go through extension.
Plus, my school doesn't allow me to retake if it's an C. ( Most of my bad grades are C)

Good job reviving a 2 year old topic.