Who will use a recruiter??

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I've heard nothing but horror stories from people that have used recruiters - even searched this board and read what people said - but it makes a ton of sense to use one. I'm sick of being up at 230am looking for jobs.

anyone using a recruiter or planning on it?

Can they get you a better deal (not just money, but vaca, non-compete, etc)? I don't even know if they negotiate - or if they just email you jobs that you can call on...
 
Im a PGY-3 and looking for hospitalist jobs in the near future and my program has told me NOT to use recruiters.
 
I've heard nothing but horror stories from people that have used recruiters - even searched this board and read what people said - but it makes a ton of sense to use one. I'm sick of being up at 230am looking for jobs.

anyone using a recruiter or planning on it?

Can they get you a better deal (not just money, but vaca, non-compete, etc)? I don't even know if they negotiate - or if they just email you jobs that you can call on...


Using a recruiter is easier than looking for a job yourself, but you need to understand that the really good jobs are filled by word of mouth, Thus recruiters specialize in filling the crap jobs. If a job has bad pay, bad location, bad working conditions, employed by a greedy management company out to screw you, that is the type of job recruiters will find for you. The recruiters won't tell you about what is wrong with the job, even if you bothered to ask.
You may get lucky and want to work in the middle of nowhere and thus see the recruiter as providing a great service. Most likely you will waste your time interviewing at a series of crap jobs before you figure out why nobody wants the job. Worse you will take a job with bad pay, bad location, bad working conditions, employed by a greedy management company out to screw you and not figure out you got screwed until start working and have to pay a tail to leave and give 6 months notice to leave.
 
Physician recruiters are paid one of three ways:

1. Retainer -- They are paid regardless of whether the position is filled or not, with another payment when the position is filled. This is usually a large national chain -- Cejka, Jackson & Coker, Merritt/Hawkins etc. Large clients (i.e. univeristy programs or other large health care systems) hire them. They screen applicants carefully, and send a small number of highly qualified, well matched candidates for interviews.

2. Contingency -- the position is given to a recruiter, they get a fee if the position is filled. Key to understanding this is that Physician recruiters do not "share" fees like real estate agents. A PR will only show you "their" listings, not anyone elses. They are likely to send your CV to all of their contacts, hoping for a nibble. They really don't care if it fits your needs at all (not quite true, but close).

3. IN House -- some big systems have salaried, in house recuiters, very similar to #1.

So:

A. Going with a large national firm is a reasonable choice, but you're only likely to find jobs listed at big places.

B. No matter what you do, do not become "married" to a physician recruiter. You must use multiple recruiters, as they will each have different listings.

C. Assume all PR's are "used car salesmen" until proven otherwise. Do not give them a copy of your CV until you have heard of a job in which you are interested, and preferably not until after you have spoken to someone offering the position (although this is often impossible).. Make sure any PR's you are using know 1) how to contact you (i.e. do you want to be paged), 2) What exactly you are interested in and not, and 3) that you will fire them if they misbehave, by sending your CV anywhere you did not expressly approve.
 
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