Why are some Med schools Sausage Fests?

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https://www.aamc.org/download/321532/data/factstableb2-2.pdf

I was browsing UMiami's for some reason (http://admissions.med.miami.edu/md-programs/general-md/class-profile) and it's 100 men and 40 women matriculating. Meanwhile, a lot of other schools on the aamc list are pretty balanced.


Seems like the really sausagey schools are mostly located in conservative red states.

Is there still affirmative action for women in medicine? I've never seen a thread on it here...
 
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Hmm they don't try and explain why.

Also, is there data on a similar decline in life sciences majors? You don't need to be a bio major to apply to medical school but that's the most traditional/popular path. I was under the impression that women majoring in life sciences was increasing...
 
As N=1 three of the smartest people I know are doing PA because they want a life without sacrifice.
 
AirplaneFruit said:
https://www.aamc.org/download/321532/data/factstableb2-2.pdf

I was browsing UMiami's for some reason (http://admissions.med.miami.edu/md-programs/general-md/class-profile) and it's 100 men and 40 women matriculating. Meanwhile, a lot of other schools on the aamc list are pretty balanced.


Seems like the really sausagey schools are mostly located in conservative red states.

Is there still affirmative action for women in medicine? I've never seen a thread on it here...
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Cyberdyne 101 said:
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7331poas said:
Smartest of your peers you mean?...
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Sorry I was not eloquent enough. At a premed factory, the smartest of my peers jumped the premed hoops and decided to go PA. They are all female and none of them were able to see the advantages of getting an MD. As one said, I will pay the malpractice claim if she screws up. At this point she is right about that.
 
Lawper said:
At least you're a vegetarian. My being a vegan makes me a prized rarity. Def adding this to my diversity essays for the sausage fest school.
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Vegan at a sausage fest = guaranteed admission.
 
raiderette said:
Sorry I was not eloquent enough. At a premed factory, the smartest of my peers jumped the premed hoops and decided to go PA. They are all female and none of them were able to see the advantages of getting an MD. As one said, I will pay the malpractice claim if she screws up. At this point she is right about that.
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From what I've seen, the majority of students in PA schools are females. So is there a phase for this too? lol
 
AirplaneFruit said:
Is there still affirmative action for women in medicine? I've never seen a thread on it here...
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I propose automatic banishment to the SPF for anyone who tries this
 
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Utah's M1s are only 30% female. Yikes.
 
raiderette said:
As N=1 three of the smartest people I know are doing PA because they want a life without sacrifice.
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One of my close friends was premed and absolutely could have gotten into med school but she ended up doing PA instead because she wants to have kids by 30 and thought it would be harder going to med school. Another female friend of mine decided last minute against applying to med school and ended up in a psych phd program instead for the same reason of wanting to get married and have kids and have more time for that than she would have in med school. Of course n=2 here but I would not be surprised if this is one of the reasons why less women apply to med school than men
 
Until both women and men are offered family leave, I anticipate that more women will choose other options. It was a very real consideration for me when choosing this path.
 
We had an admissions director from a small school say that, though historically gender balanced, this current class was 75/25 split M/F. He said that while they offered acceptances to the exact same amount of men and women, some years it just ends up imbalanced for no particular reason.

I expect this admissions director is not alone in how their program offers acceptances. I'd guess sausage fest schools did not become that way on purpose.
 
There are also a lot of schools that are majority women. Look at Morehouse for example: 44 women to 18 men for 2014-2015.
 
i would love to go to a sausage fest, it sounds delicious
 
A lot of the women at my school are under the impression that medicine is, in all cases, a 55+ hour a week job post-residency. If this misconception is indeed prevalent, then it might help explain why women apply at a lower frequency. Anyway, since we're discussing work hours, I might as well re-post this chart:
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Disclaimer: Neurosurgery should be third from the top.
 
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Cyberdyne 101 said:
A lot of the women at my school are under the impression that medicine is, in all cases, a 55+ hour a week job post-residency. This misconception might factor into the lower number of apps. Anyway, since we're discussing work hours, I might as well re-post this chart:
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Disclaimer: Neurosurgery should be third from the top.
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How many hours per week is the 0 point?
 
Cyberdyne 101 said:
A lot of the women at my school are under the impression that medicine is, in all cases, a 55+ hour a week job post-residency. This misconception might factor into the lower number of apps. Anyway, since we're discussing work hours, I might as well re-post this chart:
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Disclaimer: Neurosurgery should be third from the top.
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Cyberdyne 101 said:
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Sorry, had a weird problem where I couldn't post anything since I couldn't see a text box. Had to disable rich text editor

In the diagram that you posted, what are the units for the differences in hours? Is it hours per month? Hours per year?
 
Lancer said:
Sorry, had a weird problem where I couldn't post anything since I couldn't see a text box. Had to disable rich text editor

In the diagram that you posted, what are the units for the differences in hours? Is it hours per month? Hours per year?
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I assume it's per year. Per month would not make sense because at 888 additional hours, vascular surgeons would be working 29.6 (which I calculated by doing 888 hours / 30 days in a month) more hours per day than would the baseline group. That would not be possible.
 
Cyberdyne 101 said:
I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure the actual study that produced the chart doesn't have that info.
I'm assuming it's 45 hrs a week or less.

Can someone who has rotated in a FP setting recently enlighten us?

@Ismet?
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I worked ~40 hours a week when I did Family Medicine. 8-4 or 8-5 M-F. But they had weekend hours too. It probably averages out around 50.
 
Goro said:
Women's applications to med schools have been declining for the past several years. Most Admissions deans strive to have a gender balanced class.
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Women being URM???
 
Goro said:
It hasn't reached that point yet.
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Do you think this might be school dependent, with some more interested in female students?

The last line of Marshall's med school mission statement is " Therefore, qualified students from groups currently underrepresented in medicine, students from rural areas, and women are especially encouraged to apply." How should potential applicants interpret this?
 
They want you to apply!! If we return to a situation where the majority of doctors are male (like they were ~50-100 years ago), American Medicine would be worse off.

Annabell Lee said:
Do you think this might be school dependent, with some more interested in female students?

The last line of Marshall's med school mission statement is " Therefore, qualified students from groups currently underrepresented in medicine, students from rural areas, and women are especially encouraged to apply." How should potential applicants interpret this?
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I was actually impressed by how almost every single DO school I applied to this cycle had a 50/50 gender distribution. I'm sure it's not by accident...
 
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