Why do Optometry exist?

[kardon93]

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Sorry if its a harsh question, but I don't get it....didn't ophthalmology treated all eyes diseases or what?? its like if right now they create some carrier designed to treat minor things about your nose, your heart, your bones or etc. It makes no sense. If u gonna work with patients u must go to medical school because problems in health aren't just external problems, theres a full mechanism that triggers em and thats why Medical school is necesary to provide the best care. It would be acceptable if they were limited to prescribe glasses and nothing else, but they can treat some diseases that makes no sense. So if a group a people like the heart they should make a new carreer that deals with light problems? so u dont have to attend medical school. I still can't find why Optometry do other things than prescribing glasses. It's like an uncesary part. I'm sorry if its harsh, but we ophthalmologist work hardly to get to medical school and even harder for residency, its just not fair optometry directly get access to our area ( atleast they get more than they should).

 

[MstaKing10]

troll

 

[Visionary]

Sorry if its a harsh question, but I don't get it....didn't ophthalmology treated all eyes diseases or what?? its like if right now they create some carrier designed to treat minor things about your nose, your heart, your bones or etc. It makes no sense. If u gonna work with patients u must go to medical school because problems in health aren't just external problems, theres a full mechanism that triggers em and thats why Medical school is necesary to provide the best care. It would be acceptable if they were limited to prescribe glasses and nothing else, but they can treat some diseases that makes no sense. So if a group a people like the heart they should make a new carreer that deals with light problems? so u dont have to attend medical school. I still can't find why Optometry do other things than prescribing glasses. It's like an uncesary part. I'm sorry if its harsh, but we ophthalmologist work hardly to get to medical school and even harder for residency, its just not fair optometry directly get access to our area ( atleast they get more than they should).

I also call "troll." Surely, you're not an ophthalmologist. The grammatical structure of your post suggests it would have been difficult for you to even finish high school. Please vacate this forum.

 

[michaelrack]

the same reason there are both physical therapists and orthopedists/physiatrists, and that there are both psychiatrists and psychologists/social workers.

couldn't resist responding to the troll

 

[KHE]

the same reason there are both physical therapists and orthopedists/physiatrists, and that there are both psychiatrists and psychologists/social workers.

couldn't resist responding to the troll

We exist for no other reason than to PISS OFF OPHTHALMOLOGISTS!!!! MWWWAAAAA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAaaaaaaaaa!
😉

 

[ThePhysicist]

i think in our time now every occupation is expanded and categorized to many sub-category. it left the load on people in this work

 

[EyeGuy15]

kardon93,


If you genuinely want to have a healthy discussion(which I doubt) on this topic or any other topic for that matter, you should be able to speak the English language at above a third grade level.

 

[PBEA]

How Optician Refract
In Ukraine, optician refract. Many America optician wish to refract. But optician afraid of refract for these excuse:
They say "I can no refract, is against laws." Do not worry. America laws have little punishments. In America, police cannot even rape you without cause. In Ukraine we say man afraid of laws take no moneys breaking laws.
Optician also say "I do not know how to make a refract on a patients." Is okay, Borysko tell you how. That why this post.
Borysko Tell How to Make a Refract

1. Pretend You a Doctor...I tell patient wait in examinations chamber, doctor be coming. I put on doctor coats and pretend mustache I make from hair of my loins.
2. Make a Confidence on Patient...I tell patient "hello I am real doctor with many colleges. You no worry, I will not drug you and touch your venereals."
3. Look in Eye for Disease...I use doctor tool call "slut lamp" and look in eye. If there is pupil eye is good. If no pupil I give a reference to ophthalmologist who live in R.V. down street from me.
Number after three. Pretend Take K Measures...Is no good to take measure because no profit on contract lenses. Pretend measure and tell patient "You can no wear contract lens because your eye no shape like a spherical. Your eye shape like clenched fist of monkey."
5. Put Patient Head on Phoropter...Tell patient make look on your eye chart. Any eye chart okay. I use Serbian pornographics pictures for eye chart.
6. Make a Dial Flip...Start with -7.00 then flip dial to +5.00. Ask "which better this (-7.00) or this (+5.00)." If both no good patient Rx is -2.00 -0.50 x 170.
7. Continue Refract...Flip dials very fast and keep ask which better. When you tired of dial flip you have sphericals Rx.
8. Cylindricals...When you have sphericals is now time for check of cylindricals. Use Andrew Jackson Cross Cylinder. Make red dot and white dot on top. Change axis until patient sight blurry and can no more see. Then pick axis you like. I like 70, is nice!
9. Check Presbyterians...Look at patient. If old like hot vice-premiere woman Sarah Palin, they a +1.00 add. If old like John McCain they a +3.00.
10. Visual Feels Testings...Take cigarette you have been smoking during exam and bring to eye of patient from side. If patient block you before you burn eye, they have a good peripherals.

Now you may see is easy make a refract. A doctor only charge you much wages and look on internet when no patients. Is better you make a refract yourself and take much moneys.
I always say I sorry for being of Ukraine and please apologize to my mistakes of your bad language

 

[MstaKing10]

That was pretty funny!

 

[MedEye]

This is hilarious...

 

[Visionary]

PBEA, I just spit my drink across the room! That was freaking awesome!

 

[Shnurek]

Because learning erroneous information like how to do a prostate exam in Med school is SO important to knowing how to care for the eyes 🙂 Anyone up for revamping the education system?

 

[Shnurek]

Sorry if that sounded a bit trollish but what I am getting at is the fact that there are too many redundancies in the American education system.

Example: My friend from middle school she completely skipped high school (took her GED at 14) and went to college and now just finished her BAR at the age of 21 and is a fully accredited lawyer. And she was not a child prodigy but just an above average girl with parents that realized that the educational system is a bit flawed.

There should be official paths designed like this for intelligent people so they do not have to take the same Biology/chemistry/math classes in high school and college (except at a slightly higher level). AP classes are a start but it's not enough.

Also, DOCTORS out of all people should all know about the neuroplasticity of our brains being greater at a younger age so we learn more efficiently.

Just my take.

 

[odieoh]

Because learning erroneous information like how to do a prostate exam in Med school is SO important to knowing how to care for the eyes 🙂 Anyone up for revamping the education system?

Um, did you mean extraneous? Cuz uh. . .well yah. You end up with sex offender status when you give erroneous ones I hear. Let me use it in a sentence: "Mr. Butler left his red eye exam abruptly after Dr. Shnurek erroneously administered a prostate exam."

I don't know why but I can't stop laughing about your post, its just too ironic. Please don't misunderstand me, I am in no way an optometry basher, I work with and respect optometrists and I think that they are a very important part of our system. But come on son, to come on the ophthalmology forums to make some sort of attempted bash on ophthalmologists and to talk about revamping the education system. . well you may just want to put on your big boy pants and look up the big words you are trying to use before doing so next time.

 

[Visionary]

um, did you mean extraneous? Cuz uh. . .well yah. You end up with sex offender status when you give erroneous ones i hear. Let me use it in a sentence: "mr. Butler left his red eye exam abruptly after dr. Shnurek erroneously administered a prostate exam."

+1

 

[IvyHopeful20]

How Optician Refract
In Ukraine, optician refract. Many America optician wish to refract. But optician afraid of refract for these excuse:
They say "I can no refract, is against laws." Do not worry. America laws have little punishments. In America, police cannot even rape you without cause. In Ukraine we say man afraid of laws take no moneys breaking laws.
Optician also say "I do not know how to make a refract on a patients." Is okay, Borysko tell you how. That why this post.
Borysko Tell How to Make a Refract

1. Pretend You a Doctor...I tell patient wait in examinations chamber, doctor be coming. I put on doctor coats and pretend mustache I make from hair of my loins.
2. Make a Confidence on Patient...I tell patient "hello I am real doctor with many colleges. You no worry, I will not drug you and touch your venereals."
3. Look in Eye for Disease...I use doctor tool call "slut lamp" and look in eye. If there is pupil eye is good. If no pupil I give a reference to ophthalmologist who live in R.V. down street from me.
Number after three. Pretend Take K Measures...Is no good to take measure because no profit on contract lenses. Pretend measure and tell patient "You can no wear contract lens because your eye no shape like a spherical. Your eye shape like clenched fist of monkey."
5. Put Patient Head on Phoropter...Tell patient make look on your eye chart. Any eye chart okay. I use Serbian pornographics pictures for eye chart.
6. Make a Dial Flip...Start with -7.00 then flip dial to +5.00. Ask "which better this (-7.00) or this (+5.00)." If both no good patient Rx is -2.00 -0.50 x 170.
7. Continue Refract...Flip dials very fast and keep ask which better. When you tired of dial flip you have sphericals Rx.
8. Cylindricals...When you have sphericals is now time for check of cylindricals. Use Andrew Jackson Cross Cylinder. Make red dot and white dot on top. Change axis until patient sight blurry and can no more see. Then pick axis you like. I like 70, is nice!
9. Check Presbyterians...Look at patient. If old like hot vice-premiere woman Sarah Palin, they a +1.00 add. If old like John McCain they a +3.00.
10. Visual Feels Testings...Take cigarette you have been smoking during exam and bring to eye of patient from side. If patient block you before you burn eye, they have a good peripherals.

Now you may see is easy make a refract. A doctor only charge you much wages and look on internet when no patients. Is better you make a refract yourself and take much moneys.
I always say I sorry for being of Ukraine and please apologize to my mistakes of your bad language

That.is.outstanding.

 

[Shnurek]

Um, did you mean extraneous? Cuz uh. . .well yah. You end up with sex offender status when you give erroneous ones I hear. Let me use it in a sentence: "Mr. Butler left his red eye exam abruptly after Dr. Shnurek erroneously administered a prostate exam."

I don't know why but I can't stop laughing about your post, its just too ironic. Please don't misunderstand me, I am in no way an optometry basher, I work with and respect optometrists and I think that they are a very important part of our system. But come on son, to come on the ophthalmology forums to make some sort of attempted bash on ophthalmologists and to talk about revamping the education system. . well you may just want to put on your big boy pants and look up the big words you are trying to use before doing so next time.

I agree, extraneous. I made a mistake and English is not my first language nor was it my major in college 🙂 But I love how you completely ignored my neuroplasticity argument and just focused on a language technicality.

 

[odieoh]

I agree, extraneous. I made a mistake and English is not my first language nor was it my major in college 🙂 But I love how you completely ignored my neuroplasticity argument and just focused on a language technicality.

Eh, I didn't ignore it I just chose not to comment because I don't think its much of an argument for anything. People CAN bypass parts of the education system, as your own example of your friend showed. As far as changing the fact that ophthalmologists need to go to medical school, thats not going to change. If you want a faster path, well optometry it is. So what are trying to argue for?

 

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[DiveMD]

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[DiveMD]

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[DKofLV]

How Optician Refract
In Ukraine, optician refract. Many America optician wish to refract. But optician afraid of refract for these excuse:
They say "I can no refract, is against laws." Do not worry. America laws have little punishments. In America, police cannot even rape you without cause. In Ukraine we say man afraid of laws take no moneys breaking laws.
Optician also say "I do not know how to make a refract on a patients." Is okay, Borysko tell you how. That why this post.
Borysko Tell How to Make a Refract

1. Pretend You a Doctor...I tell patient wait in examinations chamber, doctor be coming. I put on doctor coats and pretend mustache I make from hair of my loins.
2. Make a Confidence on Patient...I tell patient "hello I am real doctor with many colleges. You no worry, I will not drug you and touch your venereals."
3. Look in Eye for Disease...I use doctor tool call "slut lamp" and look in eye. If there is pupil eye is good. If no pupil I give a reference to ophthalmologist who live in R.V. down street from me.
Number after three. Pretend Take K Measures...Is no good to take measure because no profit on contract lenses. Pretend measure and tell patient "You can no wear contract lens because your eye no shape like a spherical. Your eye shape like clenched fist of monkey."
5. Put Patient Head on Phoropter...Tell patient make look on your eye chart. Any eye chart okay. I use Serbian pornographics pictures for eye chart.
6. Make a Dial Flip...Start with -7.00 then flip dial to +5.00. Ask "which better this (-7.00) or this (+5.00)." If both no good patient Rx is -2.00 -0.50 x 170.
7. Continue Refract...Flip dials very fast and keep ask which better. When you tired of dial flip you have sphericals Rx.
8. Cylindricals...When you have sphericals is now time for check of cylindricals. Use Andrew Jackson Cross Cylinder. Make red dot and white dot on top. Change axis until patient sight blurry and can no more see. Then pick axis you like. I like 70, is nice!
9. Check Presbyterians...Look at patient. If old like hot vice-premiere woman Sarah Palin, they a +1.00 add. If old like John McCain they a +3.00.
10. Visual Feels Testings...Take cigarette you have been smoking during exam and bring to eye of patient from side. If patient block you before you burn eye, they have a good peripherals.

Now you may see is easy make a refract. A doctor only charge you much wages and look on internet when no patients. Is better you make a refract yourself and take much moneys.
I always say I sorry for being of Ukraine and please apologize to my mistakes of your bad language

This....was...AWESOME. Marry me (but only if you hot like vice-premiere woman)