Why doesn't University of Puerto Rico show up when I search for Caribbean schools?

[houstonastros]

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University of Puerto Rico and San Juan Bautsita dont show up when I search Caribbean Medical Schools.

How come?

 

[crazymedguy123]

Puerto Rico is technically part of the US, so maybe that's why. I don't know much else about the process of applying to Puerto Rican schools, though.

 

[theKingLT]

University of Puerto Rico and San Juan Bautsita dont show up when I search Caribbean Medical Schools.

How come?

PR is geographically in the carribbean but those school are LCME accredited so they're considered in the same category as MD schools in the States, whereas the "true carribbean schools" are not accredited

 

[houstonastros]

PR is geographically in the carribbean but those school are LCME accredited so they're considered in the same category as MD schools in the States, whereas the "true carribbean schools" are not accredited

thanks for clearing that up for me

 

[houstonastros]

Lets clarify. Puerto Rico is part of the United States and the residents are citizens of United States . In 2017, a nonbinding public vote found 97% wanted statehood within the USA.

Are San Juan Bautista and Ponce good alternatives if I dont get into any other US MD schools?

 

[theKingLT]

Lets clarify. Puerto Rico is part of the United States and the residents are citizens of United States . In 2017, a nonbinding public vote found 97% wanted statehood within the USA.

Yup, but it's also important to consider that the vote was boycotted by the pro-status and independence parties. Pro-statehood is the most popular opinion on the island, but it is far from uncontested. Although I suppose that's not really relevant to this thread as the fact stands regardless that they are a part of the US

 

[BurntFlower]

Are San Juan Bautista and Ponce good alternatives if I dont get into any other US MD schools?

Do you speak Spanish?

 

[The Knife & Gun Club]

Are San Juan Bautista and Ponce good alternatives if I dont get into any other US MD schools?

They are, but you need to be fully English-Spanish Bilingual and have demonstrated substantial involvement in the Hispanic community.

 

[Dr.Barker&Mr.Scootches]

I'm actively worried about having anyone that doesn't know Puerto Rico is a part of America as a doctor. That just seems like a weird thing to not know.

 

[Toutie]

I'm actively worried about having anyone that doesn't know Puerto Rico is a part of America as a doctor. That just seems like a weird thing to not know.

Why?...our so-called President didn't know. 😱

 

[ciestar]

Are San Juan Bautista and Ponce good alternatives if I dont get into any other US MD schools?

These ARE USMD schools.
They’re mission-based and as stated earlier, you need to speak spanish.

These aren’t fallback options like Carib schools. It doesn’t work like that

Consider DO

 

[VeitVat]

“Mission based...”. Yet the majority of the graduates of each of their classes leave never to return. That’s particularly ironic from their state school, which is deeply deeply subsidized by their local taxpayers (while under bankruptcy.)

If they were honest with their “mission “ they’d bolster the quality of their residency programs so they don’t get shut down by the ACGME - GME graduates tend to stay. Not like it would change anything, most of their local residencies are filled by Dominican and Mexican graduates because their medical students leave regardless.

Puerto Rico has 4 medical schools for just 3.5 million people yet still has a specialist shortage and over 55% of their physicians are FMGs.

 

[theKingLT]

“Mission based...”. Yet the majority of the graduates of each of their classes leave never to return. That’s particularly ironic from their state school, which is deeply deeply subsidized by their local taxpayers (while under bankruptcy.)

If they were honest with their “mission “ they’d bolster the quality of their residency programs so they don’t get shut down by the ACGME - GME graduates tend to stay. Not like it would change anything, most of their local residencies are filled by Dominican and Mexican graduates because their medical students leave regardless.

Puerto Rico has 4 medical schools for just 3.5 million people yet still has a specialist shortage and over 55% of their physicians are FMGs.

While bolstering residencies would be great I'm not sure how much of an effect it would have. The fact of the matter is there is a huge pay gap between the island and the States and people like money

Edit: did not read your post thoroughly enough to see you already stated it would likely have little effect 😉

 

[LizzyM]

Puerto Rico has 4 medical schools for just 3.5 million people .

With that logic, I'll point out that Chicago has 4 medical schools with just 2.7 million people. 😉

 

[Goro]

With that logic, I'll point out that Chicago has 4 medical schools with just 2.7 million people. 😉

Five, technically, if you include CCOM!

 

[LizzyM]

Five, technically, if you include CCOM!

Well, if we are going out of the city limits, we might as well include Loyola (Stritch) in Maywood, too. That makes 6 in Cook County with a population of 5.2 million.

 

[Goro]

Well, if we are going out of the city limits, we might as well include Loyola (Stritch) in Maywood, too. That makes 6 in Cook County with a population of 5.2 million.

Funny, I was thinking of Loyola, but I guess I forgot about UIC!

 

[Govols22]

Well, if we are going out of the city limits, we might as well include Loyola (Stritch) in Maywood, too. That makes 6 in Cook County with a population of 5.2 million.

I’m a stickler that metropolitan populations are a more accurate representation of a region so the population of Chicago will always be 9.5 million for me.

 

[Govols22]

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[VeitVat]

With that logic, I'll point out that Chicago has 4 medical schools with just 2.7 million people. 😉

Chicago is not a state. And Puerto Rico is not a city.

The population of Illinois is 12,802,023.

😉


Moreover, the population of New York State is 19,849,399.

And finally, with the exception of their respective state (and city) funded schools, the majority of those schools don’t have a “mission” of supplying doctors to their state (although, ironically, many do stay), the private (and public) Puerto Rican schools do.

 

[Goro]

Chicago is not a state. And Puerto Rico is not a city.

The population of Illinois is 12,802,023.

😉


Moreover, the population of New York State is 19,849,399.

And finally, with the exception of their respective state (and city) funded schools, the majority of those schools don’t have a mission of supplying doctors to their state (although, ironically, many do stay), the private (and public) Puerto Rican schools do.

 

[VeitVat]

And how was my last post any different from the “point” of the LizzyM reply you gave thumbs up to?

 

[Goro]

And how was my last post any different from the “point” of the LizzyM reply you gave thumbs up to?

We're talking about population densities, not the boundaries of municipalities.

 

[VeitVat]

We're talking about population densities, not the boundaries of municipalities.

That is - exactly - what I referred to in my reply to LizzyM when addressing the populations those medical schools served.

Regardless, I initially posted to this thread when someone innocently mentioned the so-called “missions” of the Puerto Rican medical schools. Since I am acutely aware of their hypocrisy (or multi decade systemic failure) I posted to point out that fact. And left the thread. Since someone else decided to give false equivalency between schools serving much, much larger populations- and without missions to serve those populations- and the PR schools, I felt it incumbent to point that out.

I keep forgetting why I only post once or twice a year.

 

[LizzyM]

WOAHHH but you guys both forgot about all of us at Chicago Med - Rosalind Franklin U. 🙁

That isn't in the city of Chicago or in Cook County. Should we also count SIU and UIUC, etc?? We are hijacking this thread which is actually about PR med schools.