Why don't we have more dental schools?

[SrJulio]

I understand that some schools may not be able to open dental schools due to limited funding, but how about large well-established schools? For example, Johns Hopkins and Yale both have great medical schools, how hard would it be for them to open dental schools?


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[Likkriue]

I hate to break it to you, but money is not the only factor in opening dental schools. And pre-dents are certainly not qualified to tell you the process of opening a medical school.

 

[Socolaphile]

Maybe the profit of opening a dental doesn't look promising...

 

[harry_potter]

LOL what? At least you aren't living in Canada.

 

[SrJulio]

I hate to break it to you, but money is not the only factor in opening dental schools. And pre-dents are certainly not qualified to tell you the process of opening a medical school.

I know they have to get approval from the state, maybe that's why. But again, I would think schools like Yale would have that kind of connections.

Maybe it is about profit...


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[1070752]

Lol? Come to Canada, we only have 7 dental schools. The U.S. is like a dreamland of dental schools.

 

[JLT223]

Because we don't need any?

 

[Socolaphile]

Lol? Come to Canada, we only have 7 dental schools. The U.S. is like a dreamland of dental schools.

Wow, Cali has 6 dental schools, one less than the whole nation of Canada.

 

[SrJulio]

Wow, Cali has 6 dental schools, one less than the whole country of Canada.

Oh Canada


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[MaizeGoBlue]

California population: ~ 38.8 million
Canada population: ~ 35.5 million

Makes sense.

 

[doc toothache]

California population: ~ 38.8 million
Canada population: ~ 35.5 million

Makes sense.

Simple math can be so confusing.

 

[Scumbag_Steve]

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[1070752]

The US has one dental school for every 4,965,570 people, and Canada one for every 5,022,857. The ratio is pretty similar.

You can't look at the populations of the countries. You need to compare how many people apply from each country apply to dental school. For Canada, it's roughly ~3,500 and the U.S. it's around ~13,000. Secondly, average class sizes in Canada are at 40-50, while in the U.S it's anywhere from 40 to 400.

 

[Toothout]

Because we don't need any?

That's what I was going to say

 

[Carbohydrates]

Oh no not again

 

[Scumbag_Steve]

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[BYU4you]

It's actually an interesting question. In the state of Utah, University of Utah which has a very prominent medical school was actually not allowed to open a school in the state. The main reason was because there are so many dentist in Utah they did not want to saturate it even more (and because university of Utah is publicly funded they had to comply). Eventually Roseman would come in privately and so finally the state allowed Univeristy of Utah to have one although they limit only 20 residents of Utah to enroll per year. Ironically by next year there will be more spots for out of state than in state and considering how many in state students apply it is actually easier to get into university of Utah as an out of state student than it is an in state student (and you can then change your residency to become in state for tuition).

Among other things, some schools such as Washington University of St. Louis which is obviously a very renowned medical school did have a dental school but like many others was closed down in the 80s.


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[UKalum]

Why would we want anymore? I think the control of dental schools in operation is the primary reason why the job outlook is so strong. Pharmacy schools have opened everywhere and now the market is flooded. I for one hope they never open another dental school.

 

[Toothout]

We shouldn't. In my country they accept everybody who wants to be a dentist. So, there are a lot of schools. There's a dentist in every street. They struggle a lot. Not only with the regular stress that we get from our profession, but they also struggle to pay the bills. Their lives are no better than the live of a recent undergrad graduate in his/her first job here.

 

[ncide]

Dental schools are very expensive to keep running, which is why many had to close their doors a few decades ago.

Even now, some well-established schools are in debt and are struggling financially.

University of Washington School of Dentistry, for example, is in tens of millions of dollars of debt.

 

[SrJulio]

Dental schools are very expensive to keep running, which is why many had to close their doors a few decades ago.

Even now, some well-established schools are in debt and are struggling financially.

University of Washington School of Dentistry is tens of millions of dollars in debt.

Shocking, never knew UWSOD had that much debt. 😵

 

[Likkriue]

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/29/u...ollment-dental-schools-close-or-cut-back.html

Here's a good article. I wonder if the schools regret closing considering the huge surge in the 2,000s, doubt they wouldn't have enough applicants lol.

 

[JLT223]

http://www.nytimes.com/1987/10/29/u...ollment-dental-schools-close-or-cut-back.html

Here's a good article. I wonder if the schools regret closing considering the huge surge in the 2,000s, doubt they wouldn't have enough applicants l.

1987 haha oh how times have changed

 

[frozenicecreamDMD]

now you are on the side of the fence that you wish there are more dental schools to increase your chances and lower the odd, however, once you are on the other side (accepted), you will be truly glad that the nature of dental school (expensive, expensive to open, expensive to maintain, expensive to run, expensive to recruit instructors that want to do private practice for higher pay and dont want to get stuck into teaching and politics of school).

if you want to know the result of opening more school, head to our beloved neighbor PHARMACY forum and PRE PHARM forum (2.3 GPA got in multiple schools, yea cuz he/she is unique and has more non-numerical stats which make him/her deserve it).

 

[Dmitry]

I understand that some schools may not be able to open dental schools due to limited funding, but how about large well-established schools? For example, Johns Hopkins and Yale both have great medical schools, how hard would it be for them to open dental schools?


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I might be wrong, but judging from the fact that foreign trained dentists can't practice here in the US by taking Steps 1 and 2 just like the foreign medical doctors have been doing, opening more dental schools is only going to upset the supply and demand ratio.

 

[ncide]

Shocking, never knew UWSOD had that much debt. 😵

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...tal-faculty-slams-deans-fiscal-recovery-plan/

 

[SrJulio]

http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle...tal-faculty-slams-deans-fiscal-recovery-plan/

poor international students. I didn't think this would be a huge problem, given that UW's budget is in billions and the SOD's debt is only a few millions by comparison


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