Why is everyone so depressed?

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It seems like everyone on here that is going through issues with school jump to such conclusions claiming they're depressed... Why are so many people depressed? Just because of school? Should the kids in Indonesia be the ones depressed for risking their lives trying to get to school on time everyday..Or the families in the Middle East losing their families everyday? Honestly, why are so many people here depressed and weak-minded. Is this what we have become? It's sickening...Every time I see a post because some lousy B or C-, next thing you know I have anxiety or either depression. Grow up. For the ones who actually lost loved ones or something tragic happened then that's understandable for obvious reasons. But, it seems like the latter is more prevalent. We are so accustomed to convenience in life that we become desensitized to reality and forget what we have and where we are. Don't let grades in school put you down. Stand up for Gods sake. /rant
 
I don't think it's depression, it's just the neuroticism and disheartening feeling you get when you wonder whether or not you'll make it
 
IMO. Saying people can't be sad because there's always someone that has more of a right to be sad is the same as saying people can't be happy because there will always be someone happier than them.
 
Who are you to judge if people have the right to be sad? You know nothing about them so plz refrain from judging them in general.
 
DrHa said:
IMO. Saying people can't be sad because there's always someone that has more of a right to be sad is the same as saying people can't be happy because there will always be someone happier than them.
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This. It's not a valid point.
 
I should totally blame my lowest semester GPA on something vague like "family issues" or "personal issues." Everyone else is doing it.
 
So people suffering from depression are weak minded? This is the type of stigmatizing language that leads to countless people avoiding help when facing depression. Or taking their lives. Please rethink your attitude before you go into healthcare.

As far as complaining about grades, that's a different issue. There are a lot of factors, and I generally agree that some pre meds need to step back and look at the big picture of their application. Many dont know this because they haven't hadn't good advice or advisers.
 
The whole "perspective" thing doesn't work all that well. Being sad is a natural human emotion, and people will generally compare themselves to others in similar situations, not to those thousands of miles away.

The reason why people are sad is due to uncertainty. They're not sure if they'll get into medical school, not sure how their futures will be. They don't know how things will turn out. This uncertainty causes them to be sad.
 
sliceofbread136 said:
Who are you to judge if people have the right to be sad? You know nothing about them so plz refrain from judging them in general.
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Well.said. OP, I know what you mean, but please mind your own business rather than showing off your superiority over others. This doesn't concern you, so your rant was unnecessary.
 
Statements likes these always come off as self-righteous and ignorant; partly because they are. For one thing, we can't continuously keep our minds on the tragic events taking place around the world. It's absolutely ridiculous to be like "I got a D, but that doesn't matter because something bad is happening in Africa right now". The feeling of disappointment is inevitable.

I think what you're saying is that we should be more grateful and disregard the "minor" negative things in life and be grateful for our health, family and so on - I agree. However, I get the impression you're advocating some "tough-guy" mentality, as if to validate your own stance on facing problems as opposed to another individual who is less likely to handle the situation with ease. Your rant won't be helping pre-meds who are anxious and even possibly depressed by their grades. It actually sounds like the typical jackass thing someone would say to put others down. Be a little more empathetic.
 
Domenic said:
Statements likes these always come off as self-righteous and ignorant; partly because they are. For one thing, we can't continuously keep our minds on the tragic events taking place around the world. It's absolutely ridiculous to be like "I got a D, but that doesn't matter because something bad is happening in Africa right now". The feeling of disappointment is inevitable.

I think what you're saying is that we should be more grateful and disregard the "minor" negative things in life and be grateful for our health, family and so on - I agree. However, I get the impression you're advocating some "tough-guy" mentality, as if to validate your own stance on facing problems as opposed to another individual who is less likely to handle the situation with ease. Your rant won't be helping pre-meds who are anxious and even possibly depressed by their grades. It actually sounds like the typical jackass thing someone would say to put others down. Be a little more empathetic.
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This right here is spot on. Adding on, if you (OP) are seriously considering a career in medicine you should be cognizant that depression and anxiety can be legitimate medical conditions. Taking a global perspective is a great thing, but I agree with Domenic here.
 
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Quit yer whinin' bishes! This is Sparta!

BTW/Sarcasm
 
Attitudes like this towards mental health issues are what is wrong with our country.
 
I see your point OP, but people can feel however they want. You can't mess with people's freedom like that even though is annoying seeing all the threads complaining about grades.
 
I think it's more sadness--I don't think you could diagnose someone as clinically depressed just from their posts.

But, the high levels of depression that you refer to is inevitable in a society that emphasizes what you DO is more important than who you ARE. Just sayin...
 
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Should be noted that self-diagnosed depression is not the same as clinical depression...Also, going through a "tough time" =/= clinical depression. I truly think the word is overused and frequently inappropriately used, but it's tough to pick one case and say "that guy is lying" or "that guy is exaggerating" or "that guy isn't REALLY depressed" without knowing more about his history.
 
You can never compare the people in the U.S. going to college to people in 3rd world countries in terms of having it rough/being sad. That just underplays the root of the problems people have that make them feel sad. People can be depressed for a number of reasons.

Telling ANYONE to "suck it up" doesnt help a single person. Name one person who would be cured by that(probably less than <1% of the population).
 
Domenic said:
Statements likes these always come off as self-righteous and ignorant; partly because they are. For one thing, we can't continuously keep our minds on the tragic events taking place around the world. It's absolutely ridiculous to be like "I got a D, but that doesn't matter because something bad is happening in Africa right now". The feeling of disappointment is inevitable.

I think what you're saying is that we should be more grateful and disregard the "minor" negative things in life and be grateful for our health, family and so on - I agree. However, I get the impression you're advocating some "tough-guy" mentality, as if to validate your own stance on facing problems as opposed to another individual who is less likely to handle the situation with ease. Your rant won't be helping pre-meds who are anxious and even possibly depressed by their grades. It actually sounds like the typical jackass thing someone would say to put others down. Be a little more empathetic.
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This. Noone except for extreme hipsters have this thought process anyway.
 
While I recognize that this is :beat:, I think that talking about mental health issues as weakness is an antiquated idea that needs to go the way of blood letting or miasma. Thoughts like this, even when their intention is not to refer to clinical illness, contribute to the stigatization and downplaying of mental health. People whom hold this view should grow up as youput it.

More to OPs point, you are looking at a small window of these peoples lives. I for one complain a lot on this website about my admissions issues et cetera. I like to express these feelings here because this is generally a welcoming environment of others sharing my experience. They relate to my feelings, and it is helpful to work through with comiseration. This website is not a representation of the way I interact in the real world, but is rather an outlet for people in similar circumstances.

More to the point, while I am certainly cognizant of the fact that I lead a very lucky life, we have all invested a great deal to achieve my goals and they are important to me. Is it really so wrong that this is important to us? If it is, where is the line? At what point of sadness am I allowed to outwardly show my feelings? Is there some set of guidelines that I am missing that you can see clearly from atop your high horse?

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drscholls said:
While I recognize that this is :beat:, I think that talking about mental health issues as weakness is an antiquated idea that needs to go the way of blood letting or miasma. Thoughts like this, even when their intention is not to refer to clinical illness, contribute to the stigatization and downplaying of mental health. People whom hold this view should grow up as youput it.

More to OPs point, you are looking at a small window of these peoples lives. I for one complain a lot on this website about my admissions issues et cetera. I like to express these feelings here because this is generally a welcoming environment of others sharing my experience. They relate to my feelings, and it is helpful to work through with comiseration. This website is not a representation of the way I interact in the real world, but is rather an outlet for people in similar circumstances.

More to the point, while I am certainly cognizant of the fact that I lead a very lucky life, we have all invested a great deal to achieve my goals and they are important to me. Is it really so wrong that this is important to us? If it is, where is the line? At what point of sadness am I allowed to outwardly show my feelings? Is there some set of guidelines that I am missing that you can see clearly from atop your high horse?

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A therapist I know made a comment that it is not a good thing that people are expected to be happy/strong/positive/upbeat all the time and no longer allowed to just be sad/angry. Her professional opinion was that this expectation does more to increase the general dysfunction of people because instead of finding good ways to let out these negative feelings, they bury them deep and put up this front of "I'm all good", leaving it to fester and fester and eventually explode into some extreme reaction.

So Torshi, while the whining and neurotic behavior on SDN drives us all nuts, it is not all the time you see people here saying "There there..." Sometimes we tell the person complaining to stfu and suck it up, and some times we offer support and comfort. But I think you know that already, which makes me wonder why you felt you had to express this opinion just now...
 
torshi said:
It seems like everyone on here that is going through issues with school jump to such conclusions claiming they're depressed... Why are so many people depressed? Just because of school? Should the kids in Indonesia be the ones depressed for risking their lives trying to get to school on time everyday..Or the families in the Middle East losing their families everyday? Honestly, why are so many people here depressed and weak-minded. Is this what we have become? It's sickening...Every time I see a post because some lousy B or C-, next thing you know I have anxiety or either depression. Grow up. For the ones who actually lost loved ones or something tragic happened then that's understandable for obvious reasons. But, it seems like the latter is more prevalent. We are so accustomed to convenience in life that we become desensitized to reality and forget what we have and where we are. Don't let grades in school put you down. Stand up for Gods sake. /rant
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I think you're on the right path here, but aiming in the wrong direction. I think you should be asking why everyone here seems to invoke depression or ADHD or anxiety to explain poor grades.
 
OP, I don't think anyone is using the word "depression" in the clinical sense, it just means that they are disheartened and overall sad about the outcome of their semester/year/application cycle. Your way of thinking is very "black and white", depression is not a yes or no switch, it exists on a spectrum, just like anything else. That is why it is legitimate to say that I feel depressed because my favorite school rejected me while another person over in the Middle East can be depressed because they lost a family member in a car bomb.

Of course, if I claim that I am more depressed over my rejection than the family members of that victim, then yeah, we have a problem. I don't think anyone here ever made that claim though.
 
KnuxNole said:
This. Noone except for extreme hipsters have this thought process anyway.
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Not sure what hipsters have to do with that. 😕

I notice that many people, ironically weak minded, use that kind of thought process when they are being a contrarian just for the sake of being a contrarian.
 
Hipsters are the first to throw the "OMG guys, think of the little kids in Africa!" line, which results in 🙄 and sighs. Comparison is literally a joke.
 
KnuxNole said:
Hipsters are the first to throw the "OMG guys, think of the little kids in Africa!" line, which results in 🙄 and sighs. Comparison is literally a joke.
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Oh, I always saw them as people who liked popular bands before they were cool and hate on them when they sign with a major record label. 😀
 
TheShaker said:
Oh, I always saw them as people who liked popular bands before they were cool and hate on them when they sign with a major record label. 😀
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That's their main traits! But, there are some subclasses that make videos ala KONY2012.
 
KnuxNole said:
Hipsters are the first to throw the "OMG guys, think of the little kids in Africa!" line, which results in 🙄 and sighs. Comparison is literally a joke.
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😕I have never heard a hipster ever bring up Africa in any conversation. Are you sure you're using the correct cultural label?
 
torshi said:
It seems like everyone on here that is going through issues with school jump to such conclusions claiming they're depressed... Why are so many people depressed? Just because of school? Should the kids in Indonesia be the ones depressed for risking their lives trying to get to school on time everyday..Or the families in the Middle East losing their families everyday? Honestly, why are so many people here depressed and weak-minded. Is this what we have become? It's sickening...Every time I see a post because some lousy B or C-, next thing you know I have anxiety or either depression. Grow up. For the ones who actually lost loved ones or something tragic happened then that's understandable for obvious reasons. But, it seems like the latter is more prevalent. We are so accustomed to convenience in life that we become desensitized to reality and forget what we have and where we are. Don't let grades in school put you down. Stand up for Gods sake. /rant
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Sorry, had to be done... Anyways, I see your point OP, but you can't tell people what to be upset about lol.
 
KnuxNole said:
Hipsters are the first to throw the "OMG guys, think of the little kids in Africa!" line, which results in 🙄 and sighs. Comparison is literally a joke.
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This is a generalization, there are many others who worry about significant problems in world and don't fit this category.
 
Life is about perspective. Failing at any dream is heart-wrenching. For some people it may simply be finding some food, for others, it's becoming a physician. To lose something you aspire to, if you're truly devoted, can trigger the same stress responses that losing a loved one might.

Yes, it's sad that one would put such a thought to 'depression' levels, but I've heard much worse.
 
PreMedOrDead said:
Life is about perspective. Failing at any dream is heart-wrenching. For some people it may simply be finding some food, for others, it's becoming a physician. To lose something you aspire to, if you're truly devoted, can trigger the same stress responses that losing a loved one might.

Yes, it's sad that one would put such a thought to 'depression' levels, but I've heard much worse.
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+1 very eloquently stated.
 
boo hoooo

I'm sure the majority on here using the terms depressed and anxiety is just some justifiable reasoning to help reinforce their downward trend in life. Again, honestly what is there to be "depressed" about...You have African orphans running around with giant smiles while digging up dung for their home..

Obviously some of you guys are taking it too serious
 
torshi said:
boo hoooo

I'm sure the majority on here using the terms depressed and anxiety is just some justifiable reasoning to help reinforce their downward trend in life. Again, honestly what is there to be "depressed" about...You have African orphans running around with giant smiles while digging up dung for their home..

Obviously some of you guys are taking it too serious
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You're really not reading the responses here are you?


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lol...depressed/anxious people couldn't give a flying **** about African orphans for 2 seconds. That point is kinda irrelevant to them...
 
torshi said:
Sad
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It's the truth though. Saying "suck it up" or "you shouldn't be depressed...look at XXXX" will just bring up a HUGE wall to anyone you ever talk to. Maybe 0.01% of people would change.
 
torshi said:
boo hoooo

I'm sure the majority on here using the terms depressed and anxiety is just some justifiable reasoning to help reinforce their downward trend in life. Again, honestly what is there to be "depressed" about...You have African orphans running around with giant smiles while digging up dung for their home..

Obviously some of you guys are taking it too serious
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Just because the African orphans run around and smile when you the white tourist is around to take pictures of them, doesn't mean they don't feel the bite of hunger or the pain of disease or the crushing hopelessness of a future without prospects when you have returned to the cushy comfort of your lives in the West.

You don't need to use their misery as a crutch to make you feel better about yourself and your circumstances.
 
torshi said:
i skimmed them because they were responses I saw coming. Nothing new,
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I don't know what's better, the fact that the majority of people you ever play this argument with have the same comeback or the fact you haven't been able to come up with anything to say back yet.

Hint: You're not a special little snowflake. If the majority is against you, then you're probably being stupid.
 
torshi said:
boo hoooo

I'm sure the majority on here using the terms depressed and anxiety is just some justifiable reasoning to help reinforce their downward trend in life. Again, honestly what is there to be "depressed" about...You have African orphans running around with giant smiles while digging up dung for their home..

Obviously some of you guys are taking it too serious
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:troll:
 
torshi said:
boo hoooo

I'm sure the majority on here using the terms depressed and anxiety is just some justifiable reasoning to help reinforce their downward trend in life. Again, honestly what is there to be "depressed" about...You have African orphans running around with giant smiles while digging up dung for their home..

Obviously some of you guys are taking it too serious
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😕

gettheleadout said:
You're really not reading the responses here are you?


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I'm pretty sure OP is trolling us right now...
 
torshi said:
boo hoooo

I'm sure the majority on here using the terms depressed and anxiety is just some justifiable reasoning to help reinforce their downward trend in life. Again, honestly what is there to be "depressed" about...You have African orphans running around with giant smiles while digging up dung for their home..

Obviously some of you guys are taking it too serious
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I love the combination of cluelessness, faulty though processes, and arrogance that is you.

I especially applaud your ability to work through the depression that must come with your intellectual shortcomings. Maybe SDN truly can learn something from you.
 
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