Why not MD/ MBCHB?

[ANUG]

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Just out of curiosity, why is it that the Commonwealth countries (UK, Aust, NZ) require oral path/medicine specialists to have MD as well as DDS whereas in the states you only need a 2-3yr PG Cert??
Is the scope of practice narrower in the US?

 

[Jaybe]

Just out of curiosity, why is it that the Commonwealth countries (UK, Aust, NZ) require oral path/medicine specialists to have MD as well as DDS whereas in the states you only need a 2-3yr PG Cert??
Is the scope of practice narrower in the US?

the educational systems are different. The US doesn't even have the MBChB degree, and I don't think that 'MD' means exactly the same in US vs UK or India or Aust.

For example, I know that a dentist in India first receives a BDS, then if they specialize they can get a MD. In this context, MD doesn't mean the same as the US 'Medical Doctor' MD. But their scope of practice would be similiar to an equivalent specialist in the US with DDS and MS degree (or Certificate).

 

[Dr.Millisevert]

the educational systems are different. The US doesn't even have the MBChB degree, and I don't think that 'MD' means exactly the same in US vs UK or India or Aust.

For example, I know that a dentist in India first receives a BDS, then if they specialize they can get a MD. In this context, MD doesn't mean the same as the US 'Medical Doctor' MD. But their scope of practice would be similiar to an equivalent specialist in the US with DDS and MS degree (or Certificate).

The Australian/New Zealand BDS/BDent degrees are equivalent to the US/Canadian DDS/DMD degrees.

The Australian/New Zealand MBBS/MBChB degrees are equivalent to the US/Canadian MD degree.

I don't know of anyone from this region who has received an Australian (postgraduate medical - research granted) MD (doctorate in medicine) without first having a basic undergraduate medical degree first (MBBS/MBChB/US-MD). ie. you can't get an Australian-MD with only a dental degree BDent,BDS,DMD,DDS. It is a post graduate medical degree thus you must already have an undergraduate medical degree to be eligible.. either MBBS,MBChB, or US-MD.

In Australia and New Zealand it is now the standard of training and a requirement for all oral and maxillofacial medicine and surgery specialists to be dual qualified in both medicine and dentistry. (BDent, MBBS or DDS, MD) same thing.

Scope of practice is also the same in all three countries (US, Australia, and Canada)

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[BlueToothHunter]

Oral Medicine is not a recognized specialty in the US.

Only the following are recognized dental specialties in the US:
(source http://ada.org/prof/ed/specialties/specialty_certifying_report.pdf)

• American Board of Dental Public Health (DPH)
• American Board of Endodontics (Endo)
• American Board of Oral and Maxillofacial Pathology (OMP)
• American Board of Oral and Maxillofacial Radiology (OMR)
• American Board of Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery (OMS)
• The American Board of Orthodontics (Orth)
• American Board of Pediatric Dentistry (Ped)
• American Board of Periodontology (Perio)
• American Board of Prosthodontics (Pros)

The closest profession to the Oral Medicine folks in the US is the Oral & Maxillofacial Pathology. Most OMP programs in the US involve a 4 - 6 year PhD + Cert. program.