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[Dentalhopeful]

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I know everyone out there is going to think this is a silly post, but I just have to ask this question. Why the hell do so many people bash schools when most of them aren't attending the damn school (for example NYU..BU..Meharry..Howard)? I just find it to be so funny. I don't have anything against you guys but just please shut the f*** up if you don't really know about some schools. I say this only because it is unfornuate for others out there who (for example) dream of going to BU or NYU and they come here only to see that "the school sucks". Also, a lot of people tend to say that what they say is the "truth" about some schools when only to find out that they don't know jack s*** about the school. Any comments on this...please share.

 

[BlueToothHunter]

Good post... are you a dental student yourself? Enjoying the ride so far? Take it easy!

 

[Dentalhopeful]

Good post... are you a dental student yourself? Enjoying the ride so far? Take it easy!

I am going to start this fall at NYUCD...and I am proud of it. You??

 

[BlueToothHunter]

I will be done next week... and proud of making through dental school! No matter which dental school you go to, you will always come out thinking to yourself... "never again!" with a big pat on your back! Have fun.

 

[Dr. Future]

I know everyone out there is going to think this is a silly post, but I just have to ask this question. Why the hell do so many people bash schools when most of them aren't attending the damn school (for example NYU..BU..Meharry..Howard)? I just find it to be so funny. I don't have anything against you guys but just please shut the f*** up if you don't really know about some schools. I say this only because it is unfornuate for others out there who (for example) dream of going to BU or NYU and they come here only to see that "the school sucks". Also, a lot of people tend to say that what they say is the "truth" about some schools when only to find out that they don't know jack s*** about the school. Any comments on this...please share.

Good point, well said! 👍

 

[Dr.BadVibes]

I know everyone out there is going to think this is a silly post, but I just have to ask this question. Why the hell do so many people bash schools when most of them aren't attending the damn school (for example NYU..BU..Meharry..Howard)? I just find it to be so funny. I don't have anything against you guys but just please shut the f*** up if you don't really know about some schools. I say this only because it is unfornuate for others out there who (for example) dream of going to BU or NYU and they come here only to see that "the school sucks". Also, a lot of people tend to say that what they say is the "truth" about some schools when only to find out that they don't know jack s*** about the school. Any comments on this...please share.

Its not necessarily bashing schools....its more about informing people.

When I was applying, I had certain dream schools.....it may suprise many of you but when I first entered undergrad, my dream school was BU, because my parents were in Boston and I thought BU was a stellar school....keep in mind that I was just entering undergrad and knew nothing about dental schools back then.

Even when I was applying last year, I didnt know anything....until I interviewed. For me, choosing a dental school was a huge decision and one I did not take lightly.....for instance, I lived on DentalTown, SDN....when I went to my interviews I checked out every school for every aspect possible....talking to as many grads, students, checking out living conditions.....everything possible. I think I talked with every doctor at the University of Toronto for advice!!!

As I grew knowledge of schools and of dental schools in general, my perspective on everything took a 180 degree turn.....if you had told me 2 years ago, that I had a chance to goto NYU or Columbia and live in Manhattan for dental school, I probably wouldnt have been able to breathe!!! If you told me that I would end up at Temple over all those other amazing schools, I would've laughed and said, "there is no way in hell Im going to a school affliated with the Cos"

So although I never attended any of the schools that I so called "'bash", its not convincing when students of the school itself say "it sucks, dont go here" or "I dont feel confident when I graduate next month....".

Also, people are incredibly misinformed about certain things during their interview.....Columbia was a prime personal example for me....they fed us such crap information!!! Even after the interviews, people are misinformed...such as "If I goto this certain prestigous school, Ill be able to hang my diploma and attract patients easier"......or "I picked school X so I can get published and my patients would read my articles and get impressed" its stupid stuff like that, that honestly many people actually believe is the way things work. 🙄

And no offense to the OP, but NYU has been bashed quite a bit on these forums by actual students.....and also, I dont know how your interview went, but during mine, not one NYU student recommended me to go there.....everyone said to our interview group, "if you get in somewhere else, please go there".....I dunno about you guys, but doesnt seem like a school I wanted to end up at.

 

[TaliaTN]

99% of all those doctors practicing now will tell you to
A) Go to the school you get into
B) Pick the cheapest school if you get into more than one
C) No one really cares where you went to dental school... they only teach you enough not to hurt anyone (their words, not mine). The "real" learning about what it means to practice dentistry comes after you graduate.

I get my information from practicing dentists... not just one or two, but lots of them. One opinion is a biased one... you have to take an average. It seems like dental students have very strong opinions about this topic, but the average GP will tell you something completely different.

 

[45540]

i merely say that BU, NYU, Meharry, and Howard have the lowest acceptance stats in the country.

maybe that means nothing, but to me it seems that people who couldn't get into other schools have a shot at those schools. Anyone care to disagree with me?

except for Howard and Meharry where if you're white you don't have a chance. But that's reverse discrimination for you.

 

[aphistis]

I will be done next week... and proud of making through dental school! No matter which dental school you go to, you will always come out thinking to yourself... "never again!" with a big pat on your back! Have fun.

Congrats! 👍 😀

 

[ToothCandy4U]

And no offense to the OP, but NYU has been bashed quite a bit on these forums by actual students.....and also, I dont know how your interview went, but during mine, not one NYU student recommended me to go there.....everyone said to our interview group, "if you get in somewhere else, please go there".....I dunno about you guys, but doesnt seem like a school I wanted to end up at.

Somehow, I get bad vibes from you. 😀
Well, NYC is a tough place to live in. It isn't the place for everyone. So, I can see how some people cannot take this monstrous city. Many New Yorkers have the "love and hate" relationship with the city. But, IMO, NYC is awesome. Why do you think SO MANY RICH AND SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE live here?

It is just silly you are repeating only what disgruntle students said about their school. Did you seriously talked to EVERYONE at NYUCD? I doubt it. Disgruntle students' opinions are important but why should negative opinions have more validity than positive ones? I read enough positive feedbacks on NYUCD in SDN but you magically ignore them. Are you so gullible that you make decisions based on what others tell you?

Some people only want to listen to what they "choose" to and repeat other's opinion as though it is the holy bible.

I see you want to spread the NYUCD's bad vibes to others but you are only a gossiper after all. 😉

 

[Dr.BadVibes]

Why do you think SO MANY RICH AND SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE live here?

Cause thats where all the jobs and money are and that to these people the expenses of living in NYC is peanuts. 🙄

It is just silly you are repeating only what disgruntle students said about their school. Did you seriously talked to EVERYONE at NYUCD? I doubt it. Disgruntle students' opinions are important but why should negative opinions have more validity than positive ones? I read enough positive feedbacks on NYUCD in SDN but you magically ignore them. Are you so gullible that you make decisions based on what others tell you?

Some people only want to listen to what they "choose" to and repeat other's opinion as though it is the holy bible.

I see you want to spread the NYUCD's bad vibes to others but you are only a gossiper after all. 😉

Actually I dont "choose" to listen to what I want to hear, because initially I said that NYU would've been a dream school with me, but unfortunately thats all I heard.....

With over 1000 students alone in the building, of course I didnt talk with EVERYONE.....but NYU was the only interview where EVERY student that interacted with my interview group told us bluntly, "Dont go here"

Of course that was my experience and many others, but I always encourage people to go and see things for themselves to make their own decision...I dont care what people do.

 

[Dentalhopeful]

Cause thats where all the jobs and money are and that to these people the expenses of living in NYC is peanuts. 🙄



Actually I dont "choose" to listen to what I want to hear, because initially I said that NYU would've been a dream school with me, but unfortunately thats all I heard.....

With over 1000 students alone in the building, of course I didnt talk with EVERYONE.....but NYU was the only interview where EVERY student that interacted with my interview group told us bluntly, "Dont go here"

Of course that was my experience and many others, but I always encourage people to go and see things for themselves to make their own decision...I dont care what people do.

I understand that many of the students may have told you not to go there but if you think about it...most d-students at most d-schools would prolly say the same thing. Dental school is tough. Everywhere you go you are going to have to deal with the typical BS that all d-students go through. I think that at NYUCD the BS may seem a bit smellier and thicker because of the enormous class size, but if you look at other schools they have BS (just a different smell and consistency). Also...I would like to address the fact that it dos seem that the disgruntled students seem to make the BS more than what it really is. The school MAY suck but thats only relative to who deems it to suck...while on the other hand, one might take the other's BS as a pot of gold. Anyways...I respect the comments of all and please keep them coming.

 

[ToothCandy4U]

Cause thats where all the jobs and money are and that to these people the expenses of living in NYC is peanuts. 🙄

I am not rich but I live comfortably in Manhattan. 😉

With over 1000 students alone in the building, of course I didnt talk with EVERYONE.....but NYU was the only interview where EVERY student that interacted with my interview group told us bluntly, "Dont go here"

BTW, I probably talked to about 15 NYUCD students when I went for a tour but none told me to go elsewhere. So it is difficult to believe EVERYONE is unhappy there.

Let's think about what you just posted for a moment....
Do you seriously believe there's no disgruntle students in any other dental schools?
Do you always make decisions based on other people's opinions?

Other people's opinions should be taken with a grain of salt and they should not dictate your final decision.

Here's an example.
Before I took Orgo, many students told me many horror stories of Orgo -- how difficult Orgo is. I was very scared, you can imagine.
But I received As for all Orgo classes and Orgo became my favorite subject. 😉

 

[ADMD]

This is a really good post....

My friend had an interview at NYUDS . She like was told by peers the usual rumors about NYU... But she could have honestly cared less what people told her....

When she came back she told me NYU was not bad at all. She had talked to the class president. He answered questions honestly. Not once did he say DO NOT GO HERE. He did mention that he has had great clinical experience. As far as the drop out rumors go, they were false. She really liked the diverse student body. The students were friendly too.

From what she has told me....The only drawback that she saw (tuition aside) was the fact that the class size was too big.

So, lesson is until you have not gone there yourself and know a "real" person who can verify the rumors......don't talk nonsense about the school

Furthermore, one person not liking a school does not qualify the school being horrible...

 

[aasst15]

does this statement apply to a chinese guy from pittsburgh?

>>except for Howard and Meharry where if you're white you don't have a chance. But that's reverse discrimination for you.[/QUOTE]

 

[fishindr]

I know everyone out there is going to think this is a silly post, but I just have to ask this question. Why the hell do so many people bash schools when most of them aren't attending the damn school (for example NYU..BU..Meharry..Howard)? I just find it to be so funny. I don't have anything against you guys but just please shut the f*** up if you don't really know about some schools. I say this only because it is unfornuate for others out there who (for example) dream of going to BU or NYU and they come here only to see that "the school sucks". Also, a lot of people tend to say that what they say is the "truth" about some schools when only to find out that they don't know jack s*** about the school. Any comments on this...please share.

THANK YOU! This post was a long time coming.

Don't think it's just the school's with low entering stats either, ALL the schools get bashed at some point or another by some putz that doesn't have a clue. Check out "docs" on the OHSU class of 2009 thread, you'll to see what happen's when someone who doesn't get accepted see's a post on the school that sent him the thin envelope. It's sad, really.

BU was the first school I got into this year, and I was VERY excited about it. I gotta say, it definitely took the wind out of my sails when I came on here and listened to some of the posts about BU. I stop visiting the site because of it. I just didn't need to hear any negativity about BU when I was about to uproot my whole life and move across the country to go there, which of course, is nerve-racking in itself.

 

[fishindr]

does this statement apply to a chinese guy from pittsburgh?

>>except for Howard and Meharry where if you're white you don't have a chance. But that's reverse discrimination for you.

[/QUOTE]

Huh?

 

[fishindr]

I know everyone out there is going to think this is a silly post, but I just have to ask this question. Why the hell do so many people bash schools when most of them aren't attending the damn school (for example NYU..BU..Meharry..Howard)? I just find it to be so funny. I don't have anything against you guys but just please shut the f*** up if you don't really know about some schools. I say this only because it is unfornuate for others out there who (for example) dream of going to BU or NYU and they come here only to see that "the school sucks". Also, a lot of people tend to say that what they say is the "truth" about some schools when only to find out that they don't know jack s*** about the school. Any comments on this...please share.

Oh, and on a side note: How many of you heard one of the dental students whisper, "Don't go here." while you were on your tour of the school. I interviewed at a lot of schools, and it happened at every single one. I just chalked it up to an initiation ritual...but is this common?

 

[Dentalhopeful]

Oh, and on a side note: How many of you heard one of the dental students whisper, "Don't go here." while you were on your tour of the school. I interviewed at a lot of schools, and it happened at every single one. I just chalked it up to an initiation ritual...but is this common?

I think this IS the case....most d-students at most schools would suggest you don't go there only because of some little BS thing that kicks them in their ass everyday....All schools that I interviewed at had some idiot tell me that the school sucks...unfortunatley, when they tell us to go elsewhere they are only speaking from their school experience and they don't really know what goes on at other schools. Anyways...keep them coming

 

[Dr.BadVibes]

I think this IS the case....most d-students at most schools would suggest you don't go there only because of some little BS thing that kicks them in their ass everyday....All schools that I interviewed at had some idiot tell me that the school sucks...unfortunatley, when they tell us to go elsewhere they are only speaking from their school experience and they don't really know what goes on at other schools. Anyways...keep them coming

From my personal experience, I interviewed at Columbia, Tufts, BU, Temple and NYU, and NYU students were the only ones that blantly said not to go there if possible. But again, that was just my experience.

 

[DcS]

I understand that many of the students may have told you not to go there but if you think about it...most d-students at most d-schools would prolly say the same thing. Dental school is tough. Everywhere you go you are going to have to deal with the typical BS that all d-students go through. I think that at NYUCD the BS may seem a bit smellier and thicker because of the enormous class size, but if you look at other schools they have BS (just a different smell and consistency). Also...I would like to address the fact that it dos seem that the disgruntled students seem to make the BS more than what it really is. The school MAY suck but thats only relative to who deems it to suck...while on the other hand, one might take the other's BS as a pot of gold. Anyways...I respect the comments of all and please keep them coming.

I completely disagree. Regardless of the gripes I and others may have with our schools, I would NEVER tell an applicant not to come here because of them. On exactly NONE of my interviews did I encounter anyone telling me not to go to their school. Had I, it would have been a major red flag for me. Seriously, if you go to a school where more than 1 student tells you not to go there, I would run like the wind.

 

[nothen2do]

From my personal experience, I interviewed at Columbia, Tufts, BU, Temple and NYU, and NYU students were the only ones that blantly said not to go there if possible. But again, that was just my experience.

Didn't you only do a regional interview for BU and didnt actually talk to any BU students? A little misleading huh. Who knows, maybe all of the BU students you might have talked to at BU would have said the same thing. Anyways, you must be pre-occupied because I haven't seen any private school bashing from you in a while

 

[dWiz]

I will be done next week... and proud of making through dental school! No matter which dental school you go to, you will always come out thinking to yourself... "never again!" with a big pat on your back! Have fun.

why the !@#$ does everyone say that!!! now i'm scared

 

[Dr.BadVibes]

Didn't you only do a regional interview for BU and didnt actually talk to any BU students? A little misleading huh. Who knows, maybe all of the BU students you might have talked to at BU would have said the same thing. Anyways, you must be pre-occupied because I haven't seen any private school bashing from you in a while

yah I did a regional interview for BU, but since my family lived in Boston I visited the school twice just to walk around before my interview....

 

[fishindr]

I completely disagree. Regardless of the gripes I and others may have with our schools, I would NEVER tell an applicant not to come here because of them. On exactly NONE of my interviews did I encounter anyone telling me not to go to their school. Had I, it would have been a major red flag for me. Seriously, if you go to a school where more than 1 student tells you not to go there, I would run like the wind.

NONE!? Wow, from talking to my buddies that interviewed as well, it seems like this is pretty standard.

 

[ToothCandy4U]

Seriously, if you go to a school where more than 1 student tells you not to go there, I would run like the wind.

Aren't you a little bit extreme? 😱

What if the student who complains about the school was a wuss and was never cut out to be in a dental school to begin with?
You could very much be listening to a loser's opinion.
Are you that easily influenced?

 

[DcS]

Aren't you a little bit extreme? 😱

What if the student who complains about the school was a wuss and was never cut out to be in a dental school to begin with?
You could very much be listening to a loser's opinion.
Are you that easily influenced?

If someone were to tell me they didn't like a school, I would ask why. To not like a school is one thing, but to tell others to avoid it is another. If they can give me legit reasons as to why I should not go there, then I would check them out. If they say cause I don't like so and so, it's not hard to tell if they are legitimate or not. I guess I got lucky that I interviewed at schools where most students are happy.

 

[Jamison321]

Most of you guys have to stop caring about what other people think of a school. If you like school X a lot and have heard good things don't change your whole opinion around because it was bashed by someone on this site. I mean you don't even know the people on this board. By no means am I saying the information on this site is crap, it is great to get information. But people have to take other people's opinions with a grain of salt. Secondly, I understand you should obviously choose the cheapest school you can go to but I did not. And I do not care if I get bashed for it. I chose a lot more expensive school for more than one reason. And they really didn't have to do with either school.

To all of you people who are going to a school that gets bashed on here I would hope you are proud of where you are going. Do not make a decision based on what one or two people are saying about a school because its more expensive or their incoming stats are lower than other schools. You think I give a crap about what the incoming GPA is at the school I am going to? Not at all as neither should you. I only care about the quality of the program and how it will train me to become a successful dentist. I just laugh when people try to say BU or NYU is bad because their incoming GPA is lower than another school. Anyways just had to get that off my back.

 

[Brutus0725]

except for Howard and Meharry where if you're white you don't have a chance. But that's reverse discrimination for you.

What A dumb ass thing to say! When my parents were in college Howard and Meharry were to only schools that blacks were allowed to go, with very and I do mean VERY little exception. Why in the hell do you think that they have historically black universities? Because blacks weren't allowed to go white schools, don't you remember when they had to call the National Guards to enable a coup of black student to attend the University of Alabama. Or the northern schools would have maybe 1 black in the whole school. And, there is still a huge imblance. I have a friend of mine right now that is the one black person at LSU dental school. Or, even at UT-Houston in 2000 when they only had 1 black person in the whole school. Those schools were founded for a purpose! I suppose you are going to open up your first practice in a predomiantly black part of town so they can have access to dental care?

Speak on things you know about and stop not just speak because you have the ability to!

In closing, they do except whites and other races. There is just a larger amount of black applicants that there are any other race.

 

[Dentalhopeful]

What A dumb ass thing to say! When my parents were in college Howard and Meharry were to only schools that blacks were allowed to go, with very and I do mean VERY little exception. Why in the hell do you think that they have historically black universities? Because blacks weren't allowed to go white schools, don't you remember when they had to call the National Guards to enable a coup of black student to attend the University of Alabama. Or the northern schools would have maybe 1 black in the whole school. And, there is still a huge imblance. I have a friend of mine right now that is the one black person at LSU dental school. Or, even at UT-Houston in 2000 when they only had 1 black person in the whole school. Those schools were founded for a purpose! I suppose you are going to open up your first practice in a predomiantly black part of town so they can have access to dental care?

Speak on things you know about and stop not just speak because you have the ability to!

In closing, they do except whites and other races. There is just a larger amount of black applicants that there are any other race.

Thanks for that statement....This was nit the first time a comment like that was said about Meharry/Howard...I would like people to realize that yeah...although the schools may have lower stats for admissions...they still produce competent doctors (who pass the national boards and whatever state boards that need to be passed in order for them to practice). Also, I remember someone saying that Meharry and Howard students aren't the best denstists when coming out? (Where the fu** did you get your info?) some of the best dentists I know came from those schools. Look I can have idiot X who had 3.99999 GPA attend Harvard Dental and he can come out not competent enough to know a lateral incisor from a first molar. What I am trying to say is that it's what you put into in dental school that makes you or breaks you. Think about it...because I know a lot of people who were academically challenged in undergrad and they are doing very well in D-school and Med-school. The way you perform in undergrad does not mean that you will de poorly in a grad school. Anyways...I am done...gotta go!!

 

[hardingsk]

Yeah, I don't know why people keep saying stuff like that about Meharry either. I mean, I am a white girl, and got accepted to Meharry. In fact, it was my favorite school that I interviewed at because everyone was SOOO nice. I even got to interview with the dean! Anyway, everyone was so encouraging and nice. The ONLY reason I didn't end up going was because I just couldn't afford the tuition. I mean, my state (TN ) school was less than half as much so I just couldn't pass it up. I loved it though and don't feel I would've gotten an inferior education at all. 🙂

 

[lnn2]

Yeah, I don't know why people keep saying stuff like that about Meharry either. I mean, I am a white girl, and got accepted to Meharry.

so Meharry does accept white girls?! 😀

incredible! I really couldn't understand why people are so easily offended when someone says something bad about their schools! So what?! It's not like they're talking about your mama! 😀 If anyone wants to know good things, bad things about my school then I'll be happy to tell them the truth.

school vs school thread should belong in predent so that everyone can spit out their opinions about how clueless they are.

 

[gabrielmeraz]

THANK YOU! This post was a long time coming.

Don't think it's just the school's with low entering stats either, ALL the schools get bashed at some point or another by some putz that doesn't have a clue. Check out "docs" on the OHSU class of 2009 thread, you'll to see what happen's when someone who doesn't get accepted see's a post on the school that sent him the thin envelope. It's sad, really.

BU was the first school I got into this year, and I was VERY excited about it. I gotta say, it definitely took the wind out of my sails when I came on here and listened to some of the posts about BU. I stop visiting the site because of it. I just didn't need to hear any negativity about BU when I was about to uproot my whole life and move across the country to go there, which of course, is nerve-racking in itself.

I hear you man! I was very glad I visited BU. Everybody talked so bad about the school it took me going to the interview and what I found was totally different from what the people around this site commented on BU. I love the school and how the students where so happy there. I was accepted to BU but chose for USC since I am from California and I can't stand the cold; but, if BU would've been the only choice for me, I would've never regret going there. BU is a great school with a very respectful faculty. Dr. Shaw is great; I loved that lady.

 

[kato999]

I agree. My interview with Dr. Shaw was by far the best interview I had out of the 8 schools I visited.

 

[grant555]

When my parents were in college Howard and Meharry were to only schools that blacks were allowed to go, with very and I do mean VERY little exception. Why in the hell do you think that they have historically black universities? Because blacks weren't allowed to go white schools, don't you remember when they had to call the National Guards to enable a coup of black student to attend the University of Alabama. Or the northern schools would have maybe 1 black in the whole school.

This is what is so often overlooked in the reverse discrimination argument. The fact that those schools were born out of hatred and years of vicious acts of bigotry is ironic. Everytime a post begins that attacks Meharry or Howard, it is almost never mentioned that Meharry was founded by a whiteman, and it was the U.S. Congress that played a pivotal role in the beginning of Howard, not necessarily an all black group.

Moreover, Microsoft, Coca-Cola, Proctor and Gamble and a host of other Fortune 500 companies regularly support HBCUs. This is not done for political correctness, but those companies know what purpose those schools serve. In fact, George H and George W have supported HBCUs, and I didn't vote for either of the gentlemen, but I give credit where credit is due.

All these facts and more are detailed in the book, I'll Find A Way or Make One, which probably no one on this forum has read, but that's okay by me. You don't have to, nor do you have to agree with me or anyone else on this forum.

Hell, if you are game, try writing your congressman to explain your reasons as to why Meharry and Howard or any school should change, be debunked, or bombed with Anthrax.

The fact of the matter is those two schools, and arguably BU and NYU and other target schools are not going anywhere. Howard and Meharry have survived for over a 100 yrs and are not going to dissipate simply because members of this forum do not agree with how or why the schools compile their classes. In fact, most attacks only strengthen the argument for those schools' existence.

Not all dental applicants will be accepted into dental school simply because there are not enough spots period. There are always more people applying to dental school that can get in to dental school. Take a test for yourselves. Here on this website, nearly a 100% of the time there are more "viewers" on the PreDent Forum than the Dental forum. See HERE

This won't change and neither will the existence of the schools in question. I have never been to Boston, but it is safe to say that there are strong and influential people there and around the country that won't allow that school to perish. It could happen, but highly unlikely.

We are all entitled to our views, which is what makes America great. Take care and GOD Bless.

 

[lnn2]

We are all entitled to our views, which is what makes America great...

That's a cop out! Are you sure about that?! what about the modern day KKK and White Supremacist views? Do they make America great? "Talk among yourselves, discuss!"

 

[Dentalhopeful]

hey grant I am with you 100%...no one really knows the history behind Meharry and Howard...I think its funny how some people present the two schools to be ALL black and ONLY for blacks. Well, that may be the case to an extent but as you guys know the schools do admit people from other ethnic and racial backgrounds. People must understand that these schools are there for every one but more specifically for black americans and other minorities. Don't get me wrong...someone is thinking that this is discrimination probably. Ok...well if that is the case how about those d-schools out there that admit only 1-2 black applicants out of a total of 115-120 possible seats. For example, NSU, goo school but for the past three years there has been only 1 black dental student that has graduated. (Oh and let me get this straight, this post is more specifically talking about african american males.) Now, when the dean of the school tells me that they are eagerly seeking african american males to admit and from three years they haven't graduated one...that seems a bit fishy. I know plenty of african american and caribbean males that are my personal friends with DAT and GPA appox ~23/3.6 that have been rejected from NSU. I'm not sure about the case elsewhere. You guys must understand that these schools attract more and more african americans because it is a place where most can feel comfortable and obtain a great education. I will go further and say that there is plenty of discrimination out there against blacks and trust me I know because I still feel some of it today. I am not trying to bring out the race card but you guys shouls have a little understanding of where I am coming from. And for those of you who feel that discrimination does not exist anymore...well....trust me it still exists. Hope this little post doesn't cause any of you guys to get a heart attack or better yet spark up a nything nasty.

On a side note, I do understand that these schools accept applicants with low stats but you also must understand that they all take the board exams and pass and they do get licensed. Some may do better work than others but that the case for every school you look at. Just because stats are low doesn't mean that they are not competent. I know many who have low stats from undergrad and I don't understand how they get bad grades (these guys are really smart...but perhaps tests aren't their thing).

Anyways...some of my ideas may seem jumbled but I do feel that they were conveyed well enough.

 

[grant555]

That's a cop out! Are you sure about that?! what about the modern day KKK and White Supremacist views? Do they make America great? "Talk among yourselves, discuss!"

This would depend on your point of view. The actions of a few misguided individuals shouldn't derail all the accomplishments of the country. I still believe America is a great country, which is why the American flag flies on my website, but that is a separate issue. Sure, the country has problems, and in order to keep the country strong and improving, they must be addressed.

In reality, I find the KKK to be rather boring. What has the KKK done in the past 50 yrs but spout rhetoric? They have no real power to speak of anyway. Whenever I visit www.stormfront.org, I am more bored by the redundant diatribes than offended. I pity them really.

I stand by the post. I think we are all entitled to our views, and I don't see any evidence in my posts to support the copout claim. Take care and GOD Bless.

 

[grant555]

hey grant I am with you 100%...no one really knows the history behind Meharry and Howard...I think its funny how some people present the two schools to be ALL black and ONLY for blacks. Well, that may be the case to an extent but as you guys know the schools do admit people from other ethnic and racial backgrounds. People must understand that these schools are there for every one but more specifically for black You guys must understand that these schools attract more and more african americans because it is a place where most can feel comfortable and obtain a great education.

This is true, and I quote, "Founded in 1867, Howard is the most popular school among America's black elite, with many of its students third-and fourth-generation alumni. Because of the reputation of the undergraduate, law,medical,dental, and other professional departments, Howard lays claim to more prominent black alumni than any other college or university. In fact, nearly one-third of all black physicians and dentists and about one-fifth fo all black lawyers in the United States are graduates of Howard. The school is an oasis for children of black families who value intellect." End quote. This is from the book, Our Kind of People. by Lawrence Otis Graham.

Personally, I don't know what all the hay is about. Two schools out of fifty-four have a high minority enrollment, and there's bedlam.

In other words, I wouldn't want to attend any school where I wasn't wanted academically or socially. Having attended white schools, I can attest that I have never felt personally threatened at any of them. Sure, I had bad vibes and some questionable experiences, but they weren't the norm, so I left feeling good about my experience. This continued during my summer at Baylor Coll of Dentistry as well. I just wasn't bothered by being a minority, but I know some that were.

Again, we are all entitled to our views. Take care and GOD Bless.