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You mean November? Yeah, I'm such a tool. Learn to read. The drop deadline (Nov 21) is a week and a day before the start of finals (Nov 29).constructor said:
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Nutmeg said:
I thought we were over this inanity. The course WITHDRAWAL deadline on Nov 21 means if you withdraw before then, you get a big "W" on your transcript like just about every other school in the US. I can show you my transcript to prove it to you.
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BMFD. That's a hell of a lot later than the drop deadlines I faced in community college, even with a W, which came less than halfway through the semester. For undergraduates at Cal, you can't drop a class after Oct 22 at all unless you get approval from the dean of your college. The ugliness of the W is a moot point since the conundrum arose in response to sdnstud's comment that "you can also drop your classes AFTER your final so that you can perserve your 3.999 GPA." Granted, you can't actually drop after you take the final, but you can bail out at practically the last minute and preserve your GPA--ugly or not, the W doesn't factor into your GPA, and that is a huge bonus. You can have 3 ugly Ws on your transcript every semester and still graduate on the Dean's list, and you don't have to worry about academic probation, scholarship qualifications, etc. I know that I personally was in a situation where there was a requirement that I could either satisfy by taking course A in the fall or course B in the spring. Since it was my last year, I enrolled in A even though I really wanted to take B instead, since I had no guarantee that B wouldn't conflict with one of the other specific major requirements I had to meet. Since registration for spring came after the fall drop deadline, I wasn't able to bail out of crappy course A once I'd registered for B. And since I couldn't drop, not only did I have the less-than-desirable grade in course A, but I also had to deal with course A stealing time from my extremely busy finals studying schedule. I would have much preferred to take the W at that point.davidus said:
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What's your point? Stanford has no Dean's List. Three W's most likely would result in academic probation. (Not going to bother explaining this to you) Are you trying to say Stanford students have it easy? You try taking premed classes there. Good luck.
Anyway, I apologize for the meanness. I just get annoyed when people start spouting off on stuff they really don't fully understand...
I commend you berkeley folks for your school spirit, and maybe you guys do have more. But keep the stanford bashing to things you know like the tree and our crappy football team.
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WHAT?? 40th? Is that all we get? That and ANU and Melbourne University ahead of Sydney University? 😱 Melbourne and Sydney I can understand being close in the running. But actually the past couple of years Sydney has been the top research centre in all of Australia! Especially in the area of medical research.
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Look, I have a great deal of respect for Stanford. My California pride dwarfs my contempt for Stanford, and any school that draws attention from the Ivies to California is a great thing in my book. Even USC, as much as I hate 'em, I'm still somewhat glad to see that the No. 1 team in the nation is in California. But, credit where credit is due. Stanford students enjoy inflated grades relative to Cal students. You pay a lot to go to Stanford, and Stanford understands that alumni money depends on a degree of customer satisfaction. Cal, by contrast, gets a ridiculously small amount of alumni money per graduate for a top tier school.davidus said:
When I read that, it pisses me off when anyone tries to doubt that the students at Cal have to work harder for their As than do their counterparts at Stanford. It also pisses me off when I read:
constructor said:
I get friggin' POed. In addititon to misrepresenting the grade distribution, I can only give a great big "F*** you and the horse you rode in on" to any of the public university disparaging elitist pricks. Yeah, Berkeley is a public school, and i'm damned proud to say that I had to work hard for my degrees. I'm also stoked that I didn't have to pay a dime in tuition, and yet I still went through a ChemE program that was superior to that at Stanford.
Credit where credit is due. Stanford's got a great deal of money, a really nice student body (everyone I've met from Stanford in person has been totally nice and totally cool), a nice campus (in a retirement-community kind of way), and excellent programs in basically every manner of professional school. I would really like to attend grad school there, in all honesty; it's my top choice for grad school. But I really think that Berkeley gets overlooked for what a great institution it is, because to many people can't see past the fact that its a public school.
Peace to you. But you ain't gettin' the axe back any time soon. 😀 😉 😛
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alright, you didn't put my comments in context, which was in the middle of a heated exchange. but i apologize for saying what i said... just as you don't like to hear that cal is an inferior public school where it's easy to get A's, i don't like to hear that grades are inflated here because let's admit it, there's some truth to both but it's mostly wishful exaggeration played on by the other side. i'll admit that grades are inflated here in the humanities courses, but anything suggesting that they're inflated in the pre-med science courses and engineering courses is purely misinformation. our classes get curved to a B- and only 20% get A's in these types of classes. i know at some schools they get curved to a C, but stanford is much better in this regard than schools that are on par such as harvard where 50% of the class gets A's in even the science courses (i took one there). you can clearly distinguish the better students here because the grade distribution is quite wide for the courses that medical schools really care about. sure, you can have a 4.0 as a psych major and that's unfortunate, but as i said it's not perfect here. also remember that while cal might have as many intelligent and hard-working students as stanford, there are also a lot of students there who aren't going to make it, which i can't say for stanford. so, the curve here is naturally going to be tougher. so i think it's only fair that we enjoy a little bit (if any) of a grade inflation when compared to cal.
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Just like "Illinois University" and "Michigan University".
How reputable can this list be if they can't even get the names of the universities right?
How reputable can this list be if they can't even get the names of the universities right?
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Nutmeg said:
My highest rating: 👍 👍 👍 👍
Preach on brotha! I even feel the same about mid-west schools as well. Anything to bring down the east coast cronyism is good in my book.
I agree too...anything that brings attention to the West Coast Schools is awesome...
and even as much as I despise USC for beating CAL on 10/9, I'm still glad that they are the number 1 team in the nation because at least it brings some attention to college football on the west coast. The fact that 2 of the 4 best teams in the nation are from the Pac-10 is even better news.
and even as much as I despise USC for beating CAL on 10/9, I'm still glad that they are the number 1 team in the nation because at least it brings some attention to college football on the west coast. The fact that 2 of the 4 best teams in the nation are from the Pac-10 is even better news.
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Likewise. I used to spend all of my time in high school and early college ragging on my rich ***** cheerleader friends for going to USC. Seriously, they're all idiots. But, through a combination of things, I have changed. Since then, I've come to realize that even USC does its part to contribute to the West Coast's standings. Pac was right, California Love 👍
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This list is a joke. I'm not going to take the time to point out individual discrepancies, which are pretty damned obvious, but honestly, who comes up with this stuff?
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someone mistakenly posted this link in the lounge:
http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page=content&id=15400&repository=0001_article
It's better off in this thread than the lounge.
http://daily.stanford.edu/tempo?page=content&id=15400&repository=0001_article
It's better off in this thread than the lounge.
o boy..is constructor doing his elitist thing again??? DID U GET INTO A MEDICAL SCHOOL YET MAN!!!! I MEAN FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND FROM ALL YOUR BASHING POSTS U MUST BE PRETTY DAMN SMART......YET I DONT SEE UR NAME ANYWHERE IN THE ACCEPTANCE THREAD AFTER A FIRST GLANCE.....I ASKED U THIS Q MANY TIMES B4...BUT U JUST SO HAPPEN TO NEGLECT IT.......
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drguy22 said:
believe me, you would be the first one to know if i ever get into a medical school. unfortunately, i haven't gotten any interviews, acceptances, or even secondaries from most schools. 🙁
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As much as I am annoyed by the fact that Stanford rejected me for undergraduate admissions, I don't think it is fair to single out another applicant and say look you don't have an acceptance, ha ha. Regardless of Constructor's opinions (or Big Game loyaltiesdrguy22 said:
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Dude, you need to chill. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, just like you are to yours (and I have lost count how many times others posters corrected you).drguy22 said:
If you object to constructor's post, point out the fallacies in it rather than saying "you didn't even get in yet, so your opinion doesn't count!". Besides, who knows if he's even applied yet.
believe me, you would be the first one to know if i ever get into a medical school. unfortunately, i haven't gotten any interviews, acceptances, or even secondaries from most schools.
yeah, you totally should've chosen them before they rejected your ugly, public-school attending tramp ass. oh by the way, we can't drop classes after the final and only 20% of the class (slightly less for engineering and slightly more for humanities) get A's, which is unfortunate because 100% of the class here is smarter that the portion of your classes that get A's...
that there above is a quote by constructor.......there he goes again bashing again......IN MY OPINION....he has NO rite at bashing any school..be it medical school( especially medical schools) or undergrad instituitions until he actually gets accepted to one.....im sorry...it totally makes me POed......im sorry constructor...u come across as a arrogant, and elitist person who thinks you are better than everyone else, i can see this from what u post in this forum....pherhaps medical schools that you applied to feel the same way.....this time i actually hope i am wrong... but im afraid im not.... .and i do hope that as a real person you arent this obnoxious and insulting to other people....... go ahead flame away!
yeah, you totally should've chosen them before they rejected your ugly, public-school attending tramp ass. oh by the way, we can't drop classes after the final and only 20% of the class (slightly less for engineering and slightly more for humanities) get A's, which is unfortunate because 100% of the class here is smarter that the portion of your classes that get A's...
that there above is a quote by constructor.......there he goes again bashing again......IN MY OPINION....he has NO rite at bashing any school..be it medical school( especially medical schools) or undergrad instituitions until he actually gets accepted to one.....im sorry...it totally makes me POed......im sorry constructor...u come across as a arrogant, and elitist person who thinks you are better than everyone else, i can see this from what u post in this forum....pherhaps medical schools that you applied to feel the same way.....this time i actually hope i am wrong... but im afraid im not.... .and i do hope that as a real person you arent this obnoxious and insulting to other people....... go ahead flame away!
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So if he got into a school, you would be alright with him bashing you?
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pinkertinkle, do you remember a while ago when he said that new jersey medical school or whatever is just as good as ucsf? call me an elitist, but i'm sticking with what i said before...
and forget about the cal-stanford thing. i trade jabs with my friends at cal the same way and they hit me right back. we have respect for each other when it comes down to it and we don't take anything the other person says to heart.
and forget about the cal-stanford thing. i trade jabs with my friends at cal the same way and they hit me right back. we have respect for each other when it comes down to it and we don't take anything the other person says to heart.
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to tell you the truth i dont care who bashes me....it makes no difference to me.... From all of his post i got the impression that hes a REALLy smart dude...so why else wouldnt he get interviews or secondaries? i still feel bashing is wrong...
btw....i dont need to make my self feel better by putting down others....pherphaps constructors lack of medical school interviews/secondaries or watever compels him to put others down and make himself feel better......
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drguy22 said:
maybe because i don't go to new jersey university.
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Come on guys, enough, we're all future colleagues here.
