Would he be rejected for dental school?

[ROFL A PIGGY]

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Hello all,

I have a quick question about whether or not my friend still has a chance to go to dental school.

In his freshman year in undergrad, he screwed up big time and was put on disciplinary probation for possessing drugs on campus. He was not criminally charged by the police, but was disciplined by the school.

The policy of the school is to remove the probation status from his transcript after the probation period ends, and by the time he is ready to apply to dental school it will be off his transcript.

However, Judicial Affairs at his school retains this disciplinary record for seven years after the incident, so when he goes to apply for dental school, JA will still have this record.

My question is, will the dental school ask Judicial Affairs for his record, or will they only look at his transcript? My friend recognizes that this was one of the biggest mistakes of his life and he has completely turned his life around (in many ways) and is straight as an arrow. He will try to get it removed from his JA record by the time he applies to dental school, but there is a good chance they won't remove it before 7 years has passed.

Becoming a dentist is a dream that we both share, and I can only imagine how shattered my life would become if I couldn't fulfill my dream, so I hope things will turn out alright for him.

Thanks in advance for the help 🙂

 

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I know some dental schools ask for those judicial records. It probably won't keep him out of dental school so long as he is upfront about it and puts it in the appropriate spot on aadsas/secondaries and is able to show that he's grown since.


On a side note, son is already anonymous, why are these threads always about someone's "friend"

 

[ROFL A PIGGY]

I know some dental schools ask for those judicial records. It probably won't keep him out of dental school so long as he is upfront about it and puts it in the appropriate spot on aadsas/secondaries and is able to show that he's grown since.


On a side note, son is already anonymous, why are these threads always about someone's "friend"

Thanks for the reply! And if you must know, it actually is my friend lol 😛 However, it doesn't matter to me whether you think I am asking these questions for myself or not, so long as I get what information I came looking for 🙂 Thanks again

 

[experiment626]

Hello all,

I have a quick question about whether or not my friend still has a chance to go to dental school.

In his freshman year in undergrad, he screwed up big time and was put on disciplinary probation for possessing drugs on campus. He was not criminally charged by the police, but was disciplined by the school.

The policy of the school is to remove the probation status from his transcript after the probation period ends, and by the time he is ready to apply to dental school it will be off his transcript.

However, Judicial Affairs at his school retains this disciplinary record for seven years after the incident, so when he goes to apply for dental school, JA will still have this record.

My question is, will the dental school ask Judicial Affairs for his record, or will they only look at his transcript? My friend recognizes that this was one of the biggest mistakes of his life and he has completely turned his life around (in many ways) and is straight as an arrow. He will try to get it removed from his JA record by the time he applies to dental school, but there is a good chance they won't remove it before 7 years has passed.

Becoming a dentist is a dream that we both share, and I can only imagine how shattered my life would become if I couldn't fulfill my dream, so I hope things will turn out alright for him.

Thanks in advance for the help 🙂

Ah yes I recall there being a section on the application where you could explain any disciplinary actions taken against you. Some schools are ok with giving second chances, others are not. I guess if I was in your friend's shoes, I'd take some time writing up a good statement about what I did, why I did it, and how I learned from it. If the DS sees the marks on his JA record with no explanation on the aadsas, it won't be good.

I can't say for sure if this would keep your friend from dental school or not since every school is different. Everyone makes mistakes. The road to dental school may be a little longer and tougher though. Good luck to you and your friend.

 

[Baba Yaga]

I agree with the previous posters that your friend should explain the situation honestly in the appropriate section of the application and show how he has grown from it through things he has done afterward, such as activities he is involved with.

I have an academic disciplinary action that was removed completely but is still internally viewable by my school's officials. From my understanding, in situations such as this, they know who is applying based on several factors and will write something about any incidents to let schools know what happened and it is sent out to the application service. I don't know for sure whether your friend's school has the same policy but I wouldn't be at all surprised of they had a similar policy.

 

[Baba Yaga]

Oh, I just wanted to add that I know someone who got into professional school despite having had disciplinary action due to an alcohol violation, so I think that your friend can get in as long as he is honest about it and shows that there was a change in him after this indiscretion.

If he's not already doing it, it'd probably look nice if he volunteered with some sort of counseling for youth at risk of drug abuse/dealing or something like that.

 

[mmmsteakdinners]

You will be asked to disclose any violations school or federal on your AADSAS application. Then, once accepted, you will have to submit forms from your school verifying this.

You should be honest during your AADSAS.

If a school doesn't want you because of this offense, you either won't get an interview, or you will have your acceptance revoked once they do find out because you lied on your AADSAS. Therefore, just be truthful and hopefully a school doesn't look at it as a application destroying offense

 

[Bereno]

I know a current dental student that had MIPs and DUIs (yes, that is plural) and still made it into dental school. Though, I am not sure if they were honest about it on their app. If it were me, I would put it on there and spin it as a "turnaround story". Everyone loves seeing someone go from being in a bad place, to aspiring to greater things. Could also make for a kickass PS, if done right. That's just me though 🙂

 

[NDPitch]

Most of the schools I did get into later asked me to have my undergrad school fax them my judicial record from student affairs. So they'll likely see the record this person has. Whether or not that would be grounds for a rescinded offer, I have no idea.

 

[Master Yoda]

Hello all,

I have a quick question about whether or not my friend still has a chance to go to dental school.

In his freshman year in undergrad, he screwed up big time and was put on disciplinary probation for possessing drugs on campus. He was not criminally charged by the police, but was disciplined by the school.

The policy of the school is to remove the probation status from his transcript after the probation period ends, and by the time he is ready to apply to dental school it will be off his transcript.

However, Judicial Affairs at his school retains this disciplinary record for seven years after the incident, so when he goes to apply for dental school, JA will still have this record.

My question is, will the dental school ask Judicial Affairs for his record, or will they only look at his transcript? My friend recognizes that this was one of the biggest mistakes of his life and he has completely turned his life around (in many ways) and is straight as an arrow. He will try to get it removed from his JA record by the time he applies to dental school, but there is a good chance they won't remove it before 7 years has passed.

Becoming a dentist is a dream that we both share, and I can only imagine how shattered my life would become if I couldn't fulfill my dream, so I hope things will turn out alright for him.

Thanks in advance for the help 🙂

I believe you or your friend misunderstood about the action SJA took against him. They keep the record or the incident; however, they do not put a notation on the transcript. They only time the notation is put on the transcript is when your friend is suspended for multiple offenses or dismissed from the university. That's when a permanent notation is put on his transcript and a record of the incident or incidents is kept permanently. Was this at one the UC campuses?

 

[ROFL A PIGGY]

Thanks all for replying! So the best thing to do is answer the application about the incident and be honest about it.

I believe you or your friend misunderstood about the action SJA took against him. They keep the record or the incident; however, they do not put a notation on the transcript. They only time the notation is put on the transcript is when your friend is suspended for multiple offenses or dismissed from the university. That's when a permanent notation is put on his transcript and a record of the incident or incidents is kept permanently. Was this at one the UC campuses?

The disciplinary probation is actually on his transcript, although it doesn't say the reason for it. And the note on the transcript will be removed after the probation period ends apparently. The Judicial Affairs will keep a record of this offense for 7 years after the incident.

We attend one of the CSU campuses.

By the way, when they ask Judicial Affairs for the record, will the record state everything that happened in the incident? Because anyone who looked at the circumstances of the incident would understandably be reluctant to bring him to their school (he was caught doing drugs and had drugs and paraphernalia in his room on campus, and then was kicked out of housing but wasn't suspended or criminally charged).

Soon before he applies to dental school he will try to have a meeting with the dean or someone so that he can ask them to remove it from his record by showing how much he has improved and all the community activities he is involved in. It is probably extremely unlikely that the dean will remove it, but it's obviously worth it to try.

Hopefully his dream doesn't die because of this mistake.

Thanks all for the tremendous help!