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Would having this schedule be ok or would it be too hard to do good in all of them?

Fall 2008
Applied Calculus-3
Chemistry 2 lescture-3
Chemistry 2 lab-2
Biological concepts lecture-4
Biological concepts lab-0
American government-3
Freshman Orientation-1

Spring 2009
Organic chemistry 1 lecture-3
Organic chemistry 1 lab-1
Microbiology-5
Macroeconomics-3
Intro to music-3

Fall 2009
Organic chemistry 2 lecture-3
Organic chemistry 2 lab-1
Intro to philosophy-3
General physics-4
Computers & info access-3
 
Why don't you take a couple of summer classes to relieve some of the stress your first semester, especially?
 
Once you get through the first semester you should be fine. You are just going to be pretty busy and will have to have a lot of study time.
You could split some up into summer classes like was suggested above. If you are like me, though, you don't want to have summer classes. I hated them!
 
Once you get through the first semester you should be fine. You are just going to be pretty busy and will have to have a lot of study time.
You could split some up into summer classes like was suggested above. If you are like me, though, you don't want to have summer classes. I hated them!
I'm really hoping to get a job as a pharmacy tech over the summer, but I really think I'll suffer from burnout because it will be my 3rd summer in a row.

If I was going to take something over the summer, what class would you recommend? I'd also have to come up with another 2-3 credit class so that I would be eligable to live in the dorms. Would moving Biology to the summer be best? I guess I could take spanish for healthcare professionals?
 
I don't think that your schedule is impossible. It's definitely been done before, but don't count on having much of a life that first semester 🙂. If that is your best option for your schedule, you can do it. Just buckle down and study hard. Try to stay ahead in class because you don't want to get behind and play "catch-up" all semester. Best of luck!:luck:
 
Man...2 labs in freshman year? Killer. Good luck though. I would also recommend taking a summer course. I would move American Government to a summer to lessen your courseload.
 
considering you plan on doing pharmacy, your science and math shouldn't be too bad. Freshman year should not be hard, provided that you don't take advantage of the freedom of being in college and actually stay on top of classes. For chemistry and biology and calculus, it should really be a general review and the concepts aren't hard to grasp at all. I think you'll be fine.
 
Would having this schedule be ok or would it be too hard to do good in all of them?

Fall 2008
Applied Calculus-3
Chemistry 2 lescture-3
Chemistry 2 lab-2
Biological concepts lecture-4
Biological concepts lab-0
American government-3
Freshman Orientation-1

Spring 2009
Organic chemistry 1 lecture-3
Organic chemistry 1 lab-1
Microbiology-5
Macroeconomics-3
Intro to music-3

Fall 2009
Organic chemistry 2 lecture-3
Organic chemistry 2 lab-1
Intro to philosophy-3
General physics-4
Computers & info access-3

Your 09 schedule looks fine in my opinion, but 08 is a bit too intense especially for a freshman, I would just take calc + chemistry + bio + labs for both. See if you can skip the orientation class + take american government either during the summer or during winter session. Those GE classes may be easy but they will take the valuable time away from the science classes.
 
Yeah, moving biology to the summer might be a good idea. Just let your boss know that you are taking a class and they will more than likely be able to help you out with scheduling. Having 2 labs may be a little intense for a first semester since you are just getting used to the whole college life. I know how hard summer classes can be, maybe your school does intersession classes which aren't as long as a regular summer class but meet more often.
Good luck with whatever you decide!
 
Something I wish I knew when I was a freshman is that many of your general classes and bac core requirements can be done online through a community college. It is a cheaper way to get classes out of the way whether it is during regular school year or during the summer. I did many of my bac core online junior and senior year and it saved money, time and most of them can be completed very quickly because the classes are setup to be completed at your own pace. You can finish the class in the first few weeks if you wanted to.
 
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Something I wish I knew when I was a freshman is that many of your general classes and bac core requirements can be done online through a community college. It is a cheaper way to get classes out of the way whether it is during regular school year or during the summer. I did many of my bac core online junior and senior year and it saved money, time and most of them can be completed very quickly because the classes are setup to be completed at your own pace. You can finish the class in the first few weeks if you wanted to.
Are you saying to take community college classes online while at my university? I've thought about taking a summer class there on a break, but I'm really fed up with the community college I'm currently attending.

Would it look bad if I attended a community college during HS, then a university, and then a junior college while on breaks?
 
Are you saying to take community college classes online while at my university? I've thought about taking a summer class there on a break, but I'm really fed up with the community college I'm currently attending.

Would it look bad if I attended a community college during HS, then a university, and then a junior college while on breaks?

What JC is it?
 
in all seriousness though.. you shouldn't have a problem if you stay on top of your work.

I took these classes my freshman year:

Chemistry for Majors - 4
Chemistry Lab - 1
Principles of Biology - 3
Biology Lab - 1
Calculus II - 3
English - 3
Food and Fiber Systems (Agricultural Economics) - 3

and right now i'm taking:

Organic Biochemistry - 1
Organic Chemistry - 3
Organic Chem Lab - 1
Physics - 3
Physics Lab - 1
Genetics - 3
Microbiology Lab - 1
Undergraduate Research (16 hours a week in lab) -3

and i deal with it fine. Just need to allocate time wisely. I also do clubs and stuff.
 
in all seriousness though.. you shouldn't have a problem if you stay on top of your work.

I took these classes my freshman year:

Chemistry for Majors - 4
Chemistry Lab - 1
Principles of Biology - 3
Biology Lab - 1
Calculus II - 3
English - 3
Food and Fiber Systems (Agricultural Economics) - 3
Did you have any free time or did you have to study every single moment? Was it hard having 2 science lectures & labs?
 
Did you have any free time or did you have to study every single moment? Was it hard having 2 science lectures & labs?

I had plenty of free time actually. It really depends on how well your high school prepared you for college courses. I took AP Biology, AP Chemistry, and AP Calculus BC, so it was really all review for me, and the concepts for general classes aren't hard to grasp in the first place, so if you just stay on top of things, you should be fine and have time for clubs and relaxation if you want.
 
I attend OCCC now, but if I did classes here over the summer I'd go to OSU-OKC.

I don't think it would look bad, especially if you go to SWOSU, and come back to the City for the summer to do classes. There is enough of a distance between Weatherford and OKC to justify that.
 
Becareful with applying prereqs from CCs. I would call the pharmD program directly and ask if it matters. It might be a good idea to give them a holler about anything because they are in the "know".
For the course load you should beable to determine survival within the first couple of weeks. If you get a gut feeling that you are going to get a C then get the hell out of there and drop a class.
 
Becareful with applying prereqs from CCs. I would call the pharmD program directly and ask if it matters. It might be a good idea to give them a holler about anything because they are in the "know".
For the course load you should beable to determine survival within the first couple of weeks. If you get a gut feeling that you are going to get a C then get the hell out of there and drop a class.

Approximately 75% of my pre reqs were done at a CC, and I got an interview to SWOSU. It's not a big deal as long as it's an in state CC.
 
it depends on ur strengths, weaknesses and organizational skills.......

Your questions cannot be answered by anyone who doesn't know you..........you have to determine for yourself what materials would require a lot of time to study and what wouldn't....and how you would spend your time studying.....

For example, if you took AP in bio and chem, then you could probably keep your first semester, cause they'll be repeated material from high school classes anyway...thus, you're already ahead of the game...

I think you should spend some time, and decide for yourself what you want to do, and what is the best way to do those things in a way that you can handle....
 
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Becareful with applying prereqs from CCs. I would call the pharmD program directly and ask if it matters. It might be a good idea to give them a holler about anything because they are in the "know".
For the course load you should beable to determine survival within the first couple of weeks. If you get a gut feeling that you are going to get a C then get the hell out of there and drop a class.
I completely forgot that I can drop classes! I guess thats a pretty good idea. I think that if I try my hardest that I can do it.

I already taked to the admissions people and they said that so far my classes can transfer, but not to take any more chemistry there.

Do you really believe that CC credits aren't as good? Correct me if I'm wrong, but the same information is covered.
 
I did similar school schedules (3-5 science courses, some with labs, and some GE's) and worked full-time. Sometimes I would have to take a couple days off around times where there were bunches of exams. So I say do all of the classes, especially if you don't work....you will have no excuse. It will help prepare you for the large work load in pharmacy school that includes multiple science classes. Plus those general bio and chem classes are pretty easy.
 
Do you think that taking microbiology and organic at the same time would be stupid?
 
Do you think that taking microbiology and organic at the same time would be stupid?

It's probably going to depend on your particular school. I took Organic II and Micro and the same time. It wasn't that bad. Organic took up a lot of my time. You should be able to handle it if you don't get behind.
 
The schedule is fine. Pharmacy school schedule will be A LOT HARDER!! Get used to it now!!!
 
I attended CCs and UCs with 2 interviews/waitlisted (USC/WU) last year and one interview(USC) so far this year.

With the competion some schools will fare someone w/pre-reqs from UCs if your qualifications are lined up. Your school may not take this into consideration but it is always good to find out. If you don't have the choice then just rock it out at the CCs.
 
Often times it just depends on the person. I had a similar schedule my first year and did fine. However, some people really struggle with chem and/or orgo and/or math and/or physics etc. If you're one of those people then you'll want to take easier classes when you're taking the class you struggle with.
 
Does your school offer Organic I in the spring? Back in my day (and at my somwhat podunk university) it was "I" classes in the fall, "II" level classes in spring. It may not be an issue for you, but it might be something to consider. I made the mistake of taking Chem I in the fall of my senior year of high school then not having Chem II until a year and a half later (since I couldn't take it in my first fall semester in college).

Overall, I really don't think your schedule looks too bad - if you are trying to finish all pre-reqs in 2 years (or less), you will end up having multiple labs a semester. Another thing to consider is that some schools consider the strength of your semesters (though I don't know to what extent) - like the number of hours and classes you took in each semester. If I were going to change anything about the way you have your schedule, I would do Calculus (which has the potential to have a lot of time consuming busy work) in a later semester and move an "easier" (less work intensive) pre-req (like economics, speech, literature, something Gen Ed) into that 3-hour slot. That might make it a little more balanced for your first college semester.

Good luck!

P.S. I wouldn't sweat the CC thing too much - there are a lot of various opinions about it out there (and as always, check with your prospective schools to find out their positions), but if you are taking most of your classes at a university, a couple of pre-reqs at a CC won't make a difference. And frankly, even if you took ALL of your pre-reqs at a CC, it might not make a difference!
 
Does your school offer Organic I in the spring? Back in my day (and at my somwhat podunk university) it was "I" classes in the fall, "II" level classes in spring. It may not be an issue for you, but it might be something to consider. I made the mistake of taking Chem I in the fall of my senior year of high school then not having Chem II until a year and a half later (since I couldn't take it in my first fall semester in college).

Overall, I really don't think your schedule looks too bad - if you are trying to finish all pre-reqs in 2 years (or less), you will end up having multiple labs a semester. Another thing to consider is that some schools consider the strength of your semesters (though I don't know to what extent) - like the number of hours and classes you took in each semester. If I were going to change anything about the way you have your schedule, I would do Calculus (which has the potential to have a lot of time consuming busy work) in a later semester and move an "easier" (less work intensive) pre-req (like economics, speech, literature, something Gen Ed) into that 3-hour slot. That might make it a little more balanced for your first college semester.

Good luck!

P.S. I wouldn't sweat the CC thing too much - there are a lot of various opinions about it out there (and as always, check with your prospective schools to find out their positions), but if you are taking most of your classes at a university, a couple of pre-reqs at a CC won't make a difference. And frankly, even if you took ALL of your pre-reqs at a CC, it might not make a difference!
Thats the boat I may end up in, which would be horrible. Waiting a whole year will be bad enough. Thank you for the advice about if they offer the class every semester, I'll have to check into that!
 
It looks fine to me... I'm taking orgo II this semester with gen chem II and biol II + spanish I and US history II, and I'm doing ok. Course it's only the 3rd week, but I've had enough time off to catch up on errands and personal stuff on one day of the week, plus time to volunteer and play golf during the week sometime, hang out with friends, and still up to date in all my classes 😀 It does get hectic around finals though.. I took 22 credits last semster and it got sooooo crazy around finals + I never had time off to relax. Bottom line... if you study consistently, your proposed class schedule is totally doable with PLENTY of time off to relax or work or hang out with friends... whatever your thing is. Good luck!
 
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Would having this schedule be ok or would it be too hard to do good in all of them?

Fall 2008
Applied Calculus-3
Chemistry 2 lescture-3
Chemistry 2 lab-2
Biological concepts lecture-4
Biological concepts lab-0
American government-3
Freshman Orientation-1

Spring 2009
Organic chemistry 1 lecture-3
Organic chemistry 1 lab-1
Microbiology-5
Macroeconomics-3
Intro to music-3

Fall 2009
Organic chemistry 2 lecture-3
Organic chemistry 2 lab-1
Intro to philosophy-3
General physics-4
Computers & info access-3


That seems like a regular schedule to me. As long as you aren't spending a lot of hours in the lab doing research, like I do, then your schedule shouldnt be bad at all.

When your schedule looks like; organic II(w/lab), Physics II(w/lab), Analytical(w/lab), Law and Society, Scientific Revolutions(easy "western civi" class) and at least 9 hours/week doing research, it becomes a little much. But your going into pharmacy school, you have to get used to it as some point I guess.
 
definitely not impossible if you were a good student in high school. if you had been working hard in high school, it is good to keep the momentum going. its so easy to slack off during the first year of college... which is exactly what i did and totally regret it now.. and still paying for it. The basic chem and bio are reviews of general topics (they will be easy if you have taken bio and chem in high school) but there are also a lot of lab writing (at least for my school). so i probably wouldnt pair them with American Gov juz b/c that's too much writing and reading (i.e. time consuming). Take them with a more relaxing non-science class. you will need the break.
 
Definitely take whatever you want during HS @ CC. I many who have done this and many who have not and it just makes life easier.
govt is not a hard class at all and doesn't require much writing (depends on your type and bias though)
 
I'd say perfectly doable, but I had 21 credit hours the second semester of my freshman year (though that's because of labs and 5-credit hour classes) and that was my favorite semester. 😀 I don't see anything impossible, good load and good variety. Will prepare you for pharmacy school load better than taking 12 credits. All the freshman-level courses are ridiculously easy, too. Unless you are braindead, don't ever look at the slides/books/whatever study materials you have and/or do not attend class (and I alwasy tell everyone NOT to skip. Even if you sleep in class, you still absorb some, which doesn't happen if you skip), there is no reason for anyone to fail freshman-level courses.
 
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