Would you go this route?

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Has anyone ever considered going the Ph.D route and doing biomedical reserach isntead of medical school? With the declining economical state of the US, a Ph.D has crossed my mind numerous times. At my state university, tuition is waived and Ph.D students get a 22,000/year stipend. When you compare this to the prospects of 200k+ in student loans, have you found this route to be more appealing? I know with some MD/PhD programs you have a stipend and tution waiver, but what if you cannot get into these highly competitive programs? Would you consider this route? Just curious.
 
Yes, but that's because I'm interested in doing research. If you know you'd rather go into medicine to treat patients full-time, then you won't be happy as a Ph.D even without the debt.
 
I was set on doing a PhD for a year or two as an undergrad. I was working as a research assistant, I was planning to do a summer research internship, and I was going to travel to South America to do some research. I was quite the biology nerd and I ate the stuff up.

But I eventually changed my mind. I found that physiology, pharmacology, and disease were far more interesting to me than classifying transmembrane receptor protein subunit types in rat brain or mapping phenotypic traits to QTL in llamas (two projects I worked on). Research takes a long time, has little immediate clear impact on anything, is often frustrating and difficult, and rather tedious. One of the projects I was working on lost funding. Years of work had to be pretty much scrapped. My PI was left writing yet another grant proposal to work on something completely different.

I knew I liked to teach, so I thought maybe a PhD was a good route for that reason too. But I saw that there wasn't a lot of autonomy in teaching at a university. As a new professor you got stuck with the crappy 100 level class with whiny freshman. Or you had to use a textbook the department liked but you don't. Or you have to teach a subject you don't know anything about but they need someone to fill in.

I wanted to be able to work with people and see results sooner than 3 years later. I wanted to be able to be involved in research if I wanted, but from the clinical side. I wanted to be able to teach, but may just as an attending to residents and interns.

I did consider doing a PhD and even MD/PhD very, very seriously. In the end I decided I liked the pros and cons of medicine more than the pros and cons of academia. Both have great things going for them, both have big downsides. I chose what looked best to me.
 
It is true that PhD students come out with no debt, but consider the job prospects afterward. I am a research assistant in a lab with about 10 post-docs. No one can find a permanent job! Some are even on their 3rd or 4th post-doc since they can't get an assistant professor job anywhere. The pay for post-docs is about the same for residents. The pay for professors in nothing compared to the pay for an attending physician.

Just the job-security/prospects is enough to push me toward doing an MD with some research on the side. A lot of MDs at academic institutions do this anyways.
 
Job security and pay is so much higher for M.D.'s that it is a financial no-brainer.....even with the debt.

hopefully people choose their career on more factors than just financial ones. with this reasoning you should just marry a doctor...it's much easier than doing it yourself!

just giving you a hard time.

it's not unusual for PhD programs to be free and for the students to get $25k+ in stipends each year. i have a sibling at a state school in CA who gets ~$27k himself. that sounds appealing in itself, but to me, the career on the whole is not.
 
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