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 12-05-2006, 07:43 AM #2 Higgs chaser   Status: Medical Student Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,129 Do any SMP's still have official linkages? I thought I remembered that the last one to dissapear was the last one with a true linkage.
 12-05-2006, 07:48 AM #3 Higgs chaser   Status: Medical Student Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,129 True SMP's: Dartmouth Medical School: Center for the Evaluative Clinical Sciences (CECS) Drexel University College of Medicine Eastern Virginia Medical School Georgetown University Medical University of Ohio Midwestern University Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine University at Buffalo-Roswell Park Cancer Institute (SUNY) University of Cincinnati Traditional Master's (hard science instead of applied): Barry University Boston University School of Medicine Indiana University School of Medicine Indiana University School of Medicine Loyola University Chicago New York Medical College UMDNJ, Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences University of North Texas Health Science Center The differences are arguable - for example I don't consider the BU program to be theory instead of applied, so take the seperation with a grain of salt. I just posted them that way b/c they're on the AAMC site that way.
 12-05-2006, 07:59 AM #4 Higgs chaser   Status: Medical Student Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,129 Cinci's program is new (isn't this the first year?) - good website - has a small comparison of cost of programs: http://mcp.uc.edu/index.php?level2=1040
12-05-2006, 10:53 AM   #6
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 3) How are GPA being counted? I heard that Graduate GPA is being counted differently. Does SMP work the same way?
I can tell you how it works at Geogetown SMP, where I am currently attending.

All grades of medical school classes (Embyrology, Histology, etc) are based on the curve set by medical school students.

A - Scoring equal to or better than the top 10% of the Medical Class
A- - Down to the next 10% of the Medical Class
B+ - Down to the next 10% of the Medical Class
B, B- - Down to bottom 10% of passing medical students
C - Below B- to Pass/Fail cutoff.
Pass/fail cutoff - 2 standard deviations below medical mean.

For SMP's graduate school classes (there are two), the curve is much more lenient.
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 Originally Posted by silkworm I can tell you how it works at Geogetown SMP, where I am currently attending. All grades of medical school classes (Embyrology, Histology, etc) are based on the curve set by medical school students. A - Scoring equal to or better than the top 10% of the Medical Class A- - Down to the next 10% of the Medical Class B+ - Down to the next 10% of the Medical Class B, B- - Down to bottom 10% of passing medical students C - Below B- to Pass/Fail cutoff. Pass/fail cutoff - 2 standard deviations below medical mean. For SMP's graduate school classes (there are two), the curve is much more lenient.

So it is not being counted towards UG gpa right? it is being counted towards Graduate GPA. MY UG gpa is 3.2. I'm not sure if I need to bring up my UG gpa before I start SMP.

 12-05-2006, 06:05 PM #8 Member   Status: Pre-Medical Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 82 absolutely fantastic thread braluk. someone should make it a sticky.
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 Originally Posted by nanaschool2000 So it is not being counted towards UG gpa right? it is being counted towards Graduate GPA. MY UG gpa is 3.2. I'm not sure if I need to bring up my UG gpa before I start SMP.

Nana,

No, your SMP grade is a separate, Graduate GPA from your undergrad GPA. With a 3.2, as long as your other stats are fine, should be ok. The next step would be to perform well in a SMP and it will look good.
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12-05-2006, 08:49 PM   #10
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 Originally Posted by imrep1972 Nana, No, your SMP grade is a separate, Graduate GPA from your undergrad GPA. With a 3.2, as long as your other stats are fine, should be ok. The next step would be to perform well in a SMP and it will look good.
Hmm..I'm very glad to hear that. I think I'm going to apply for 2007 fall. Hmm... I hope that I kick ass on the MCAT. I have a following question.

Is SMP only good medical school that has its program? For example, is Georgetown SOM the only institution that considers of Georgetown SMP high? My #1 target medical school is going back to my alma mater.

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 Originally Posted by nanaschool2000 Hmm..I'm very glad to hear that. I think I'm going to apply for 2007 fall. Hmm... I hope that I kick ass on the MCAT. I have a following question. Is SMP only good medical school that has its program? For example, is Georgetown SOM the only institution that considers of Georgetown SMP high? My #1 target medical school is going back to my alma mater.
First things first, Gtown is not the only SMP - there are many (see the SMP thread...) So, even if your alma mater (what school, btw?) does not deem Gtown SMP to be of quality, it is possible that it may consider another one.

Having said that, many of the SMP's have a good record of placing students at many different schools.

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Hey Nana, no problem about the thread, I figured it'd be helpful especially since, around now, we start seeing an outcropping of threads covering the same things, so it might be helpful to just make one comprehensive one. To answer your questions
1) I applied in the second semester of my senior year and took the MCAT in the April of my senior year as well. This does not affect your chances. Apply regularly. Now that MCAT grades come in much faster, you should have no problem worrying about filled spots as there are also many applicants who are taking the April MCAT. However the earlier the MCAT you take, the better. FOr spring grades, send them a final transcript when available. Some programs might put you on hold to see what spring courses you are taking if they choose that it is a necessary action to take, but usually, it's not an issue for any decisions.
2) I am extremely glad that I attended UC. THe curriculum is extremely challenging. Im taking, what many would consider to be the most difficult classes in an M1 year, and probably a good indicator of how well you might do in med school- Medical Biochemistry and Medical Physiology. In addition I'm working on a thesis (a required component of our curriculum), which has a pretty decent chance of being published since its essentially a literature review on current research topics.
3) GPA is counted as graduate GPA. However, thats not where the power of SMP programs lie. The power lies in how you rank against other students, i.e. the SMP students DO get a GPA, but our strength lies where we stand in relationship to our class- honors (top 10% or above a certain numeric grade cutoff), high pass (top 15% (85%-90%) or above a certain numeric cutoff), pass, and fail. These relationships are detailed in recommendations usually written by your program coordinators (my coordinator is the med physiology professor). This is usually where the power of the programs lie.

As for your grades Nana, this depends what year you are in. a 3.2 is far from "disasterous" but has alot of room for improvement to hit that golden number 3.6. If you are in your junior year now, its going to be rough to bring that number up to a 3.6. I say, continue your coursework. a 3.2 is well above the required GPA for most of the SMP's (it's what I have). I managed to get into an allopathic medical school this cycle so you can do so just as well.

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 Originally Posted by imrep1972 First things first, Gtown is not the only SMP - there are many (see the SMP thread...) So, even if your alma mater (what school, btw?) does not deem Gtown SMP to be of quality, it is possible that it may consider another one. Having said that, many of the SMP's have a good record of placing students at many different schools.
I think he means, does the Georgetown school of medicine consider only students of their own SMP with an advantage? At least thats what I think. and if thats the question, then no, its not the name or affiliation which determines how good a program is, its the quality of it. By quality, I mean, the classes, the relative difficulty of them, when you take them, and how well you do in them. If the SMPs are done at a good standing medical school (U.Cincinnati is in the top 50, as well as Georgetown, etc...), then even better.

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 Originally Posted by Maxprime Cinci's program is new (isn't this the first year?) - good website - has a small comparison of cost of programs: http://mcp.uc.edu/index.php?level2=1040
Maxprime- UC's program is indeed new. I am in its inaugural, first year , and have found things to be surprisingly well run, smooth and efficient. What got me to come here were for several reasons. The top three reasons for me were 1) Its only 19 SMP students here out of some hundred and fifty or more that applied. This makes for a great personalized recommendation and creates a really tightly knit group. 2) Medical physiology and medical biochemistry, two classes which are arguably the two most difficult classes, and thus a strong predictor of medical school success are taken first. This is extremely helpful for students who are applying to medical school while in the program. It defintely helped me already garner an acceptance to a medical school. 3) Cost, Location (Ok thats more reaons I guess). Its only \$22K to get educated in a top 50 school AND get your masters (M.S.) degree in one year with a thesis. We take 74 or so credits in 11 months. 74!!! Thats essentially two undergraduate years in one. That coursework alone is more than enough to make most adcoms to look twice. Its located near my home state of NJ, and cost of living here is not very expensive. In fact, I lived in a closed community (gate accesssed) with a clubhouse that has a pool/conference room/freeprinting/tanning/dry cleaning/gym/gameroom/ etc. etc. all for 380/month. I share with two other SMP roommates, so we all end up studying together, and learning together. Cost of living=extremely cheap.

 12-06-2006, 09:05 AM #15 Junior Member   Status: Pre-Medical Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 56 Special Master's Essay Hey guys. I'm actually in the process of applying to the MA in Medical Sciences program at BU. It seems really cool. You take med school courses with other med students, and most people who do the program (and do well) find themselves a back door entrance into BU med. ANyway, I was wondering if I could get some suggestions for the entrance essay. It must be over 200 words and is basically nothing more tha an eloquently stated resume (must include work/lab/volunteer/clinical experiences etc). Has anyone written an essay like this before that could offer some advice. It seems easy enough (much easier thatn the amcas ps), I just don't know if there are some particular things that would be worth including more than others. any feedback would be great!
 12-06-2006, 09:31 AM #16 Junior Member   Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 45 Rfu Hey - great summary thread Braluk I wonder if any one has any info on the new Rosalind Franklin BMS program. Anyone know if the medical school has been accepting people who are over a certain GPA cutoff since the program was revamped? Any info at all would be really great Thanks
 12-06-2006, 10:07 AM #17 SDN Surgerynator     Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Big Easy Posts: 11,854 From what I heard, RFU Postbac program lost that linkage or connection, but I'm not sure anymore, I think I do remember people saying that the program lost its appeal after losing that linkage. Don't quote me though.
 12-06-2006, 11:32 AM #18 Junior Member   Status: Dental Student Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 187 . A list of Boston U graduate program http://www.bumc.bu.edu/Dept/Content....epartmentID=86
 12-07-2006, 07:43 PM #19 I use The Google     Status: Medical Student Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 434 So for those of you who are in / have done post-baccs, how hard is it to get honors in those med school classes?
 12-07-2006, 08:36 PM #20 SDN Surgerynator     Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Big Easy Posts: 11,854 its pretty damn hard. you gotta bust your ass. you're in class with students who are as smart, or smarter than you, and all are competitive and a few gunner gunners. you just gotta keep it in your head that its like studying for finals all the time.
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So I assume that your SMP classmates are all of the mindset that they're going to bust ass too - along that vein, have you all performed relatively well?

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 Originally Posted by braluk its pretty damn hard. you gotta bust your ass. you're in class with students who are as smart, or smarter than you, and all are competitive and a few gunner gunners. you just gotta keep it in your head that its like studying for finals all the time.

 12-08-2006, 01:56 PM #22 SDN Surgerynator     Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Big Easy Posts: 11,854 Yeap, all of us are here to kick some med student butt. The best part is, that our grades dont count as part of the curves in the med school classes, nor are our grades compared to each others', our grades are compared to only those of med students without having our grades count as part of the curve. Thus, all of us could theoretically be first in the class. All of us have done relatively well, some better than others, but all of us know the stakes at hand if we dont.
 12-09-2006, 02:33 AM #23 New Member   Status: Pre-Medical Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 27 Thank you for the information. It is very helpful. One question about the time table: I should start applying to an SMP January 2007. Then apply to medical school June 2007. Start SMP August 2007. Keep medical schools updated with my grades throughout September/October. Is this correct?
 12-09-2006, 09:07 AM #24 SDN Surgerynator     Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Big Easy Posts: 11,854 You are correct my friend.
 12-09-2006, 10:27 AM #25 Higgs chaser   Status: Medical Student Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 2,129 Most SMP's take apps into the summer, right? Also, most of them allow you to apply & just hold for an MCAT, yes? h
 12-09-2006, 12:00 PM #26 SDN Surgerynator     Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Big Easy Posts: 11,854 Most apps take until late spring, usually. most of them are rolling, so if your submitting in the summer for that fall of the same year, you might not get looked at. I took the april mcat and had a "hold", and conditional acceptance- that is, i have a seat reserved for me if I did well on the mcat, which I did.
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Okay. I'm thinking about taking MCAT at then end of March or early April. I know they have a computer generated system, so I heard that score comes out a month earlier than before (one month instead of two). I gotta bust my ass so I don't have to retake that ****. If I get my score at the end of April, should I consider of sending my application before April (and send MCAT score as soon as I get a score)? Or should I just wait and send all of materials together?

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 Originally Posted by braluk Most apps take until late spring, usually. most of them are rolling, so if your submitting in the summer for that fall of the same year, you might not get looked at. I took the april mcat and had a "hold", and conditional acceptance- that is, i have a seat reserved for me if I did well on the mcat, which I did.

 12-09-2006, 03:30 PM #28 SDN Surgerynator     Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Big Easy Posts: 11,854 send it all beforehand and then forward your scores once you receive them, its alot easier for someone to reda your application make an informed decision and then base their decision upon your MCAT versus having the whole thing in later than most people.
 12-09-2006, 05:16 PM #30 SDN Surgerynator     Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Big Easy Posts: 11,854 hmm...the thing is, the issue with your application is not really something that the SMP addresses. SMPs are designed for those who have been away from science for some time, or have poor grades. You have a really strong BCPM, and finished a masters in science not too long ago. It sounds to me, that all you really have to do is fix your MCAT, which is the problem area in the first place. Have you retaken or are thikning of retaking it? SMP is good, but you definitely dont want to be labeled as the "degree collector" or "career student" by adcoms, when the problem is smiply your standardized scores.
 12-09-2006, 06:51 PM #31 Guest   Status Pre-Medical Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 7 Hey OP, Thanks for the advice! The thing is, I have been away from science for a long time, the last science class I took was in spring 2002. So that's why I thought an SMP would be a good fir for me. I would like to re-take the MCAT but I am not I'm having trouble refreshing on all the material without a class format- I did use kaplan but they're MCAT classes are terrible. But I'm confident, that if I'm in a program where I'm taking science courses and competing against other students, I would excel. So, do you think that if I applied to an SMP program, they would think that I'm not a good fit? btw, what do you think about Harvard's Health Career Program? I know it's not an SMP, but they have a sponsorship program. Thanks!
 12-09-2006, 07:25 PM #32 SDN Surgerynator     Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Big Easy Posts: 11,854 Personally, I think that if you retook the MCAT and gotten above a 30, you'll probably have a good chance of getting into medical school. There are plenty of people who take years off to do somethign else, non-trads, who end up in med school because they had the science background done. However, I can see your point, and see why you may want to consider an SMP, though I think you can definitely get in without having to go through that route. If you applied to an SMP, they might see you as a good fit seeing that you have been away from sciences for a few years, but not to improve your already stellar science grades. I'm not too sure about Harvard's Health Career Program, as I have never looked through it- is this through their extention school? If so ive heard good things and ive heard bad things about it- you can probably find the thread somewhere on the postbac forum.
 12-09-2006, 07:43 PM #33 Junior Member   Status: Pre-Medical Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 173 GRE instead of MCAT Okay. BU MAMS, Georgetown, UC (even though MCAT is most common and more preferred) allow people to take GRE instead of MCAT. Since I'm good at Math, I feel like I can get a better score on GRE than MCAT in short amount of time. I know I have to take MCAT eventually. Has anyone who have got into SMP w/ GRE instead of MCAT? Or have you heard about someone who has got into the program w/ GRE? Do you think admissin committee would give more preferences to those who have taken MCAT instead of GRE?
 12-09-2006, 08:43 PM #34 SDN Surgerynator     Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Big Easy Posts: 11,854 ive heard of places that do allow the GRE to be taken in the stead of the MCAT, but those programs are more obscure than the powerhouse SMPs, so I've "heard" stories of folks getting into SMPs with GREs, but for the purposes of an SMP and medical school, I wouldnt be surprised if there was a tacit understanding in the adcoms that preference be given to individuals with high MCAT scores.
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 Originally Posted by braluk Personally, I think that if you retook the MCAT and gotten above a 30, you'll probably have a good chance of getting into medical school. There are plenty of people who take years off to do somethign else, non-trads, who end up in med school because they had the science background done. However, I can see your point, and see why you may want to consider an SMP, though I think you can definitely get in without having to go through that route. If you applied to an SMP, they might see you as a good fit seeing that you have been away from sciences for a few years, but not to improve your already stellar science grades. I'm not too sure about Harvard's Health Career Program, as I have never looked through it- is this through their extention school? If so ive heard good things and ive heard bad things about it- you can probably find the thread somewhere on the postbac forum.
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Ok, so I'm going to think seriously about re-taking the MCAT (the thought brings a shiver down my spine)
But one last question for now, if I do apply to SMP programs such as Georgetown, BUMAMS, or Drexel - do I have a solid chance with my current stats? Thanks for the feedback

 12-10-2006, 07:47 AM #36 SDN Surgerynator     Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Big Easy Posts: 11,854 Don't forget University of Cincinnati (that's my program). The top, more selective programs, like Georgetown's, and UC's have minimum requirements of a 3.0 and a 27 MCAT. The average MCAT score in my group of 19 is somewhere around a 31-32 (29-37). So you can see that its not necessarily easy to get in. GIven your grades, you should have no problem there. Your MCAT is honestly the only thing that is limiting, even for upper tier SMPs. Your score makes the minimum cutoff. I understand that you do not want to slay the beast again, but at least this time around MCAT is computerized, is shorter and faster, and your grades come back quicker. Good luck with everything and PM me if you need any help
 12-10-2006, 10:15 AM #37 Senior Member     Status: Pre-Health Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bardo Posts: 463 There is a Yahoo Message Board on which the director of the Georgetown SMP frequently respond to applicant's questions: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/physios/ If you want answers, migh as well get it straight from the horse's mouth.
 12-30-2006, 05:16 AM #38 New Member   Status: Pre-Medical Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24 great thread thanks braluk! this is my background: -graduated 2006 UC Riv w/ 2.9 GPA in BioSci -MCATs in 2004 that were LOW (didnt honestly put my all into it) -Plan to take GREs by end of FEB -currently working as an EMT No real reason for poor grades, just enjoyed college in the beginnig i guess and now looking for a 2nd chance to show my real capabilities. my only think about retaking the MCATs is i wanna start school as soon as possible, which is why im looking for schools that accept GRE (i know of Drexel MSP already). in short are there any SMPs that i might have a better chance at? any recommendations? any advice in general? thanks Last edited by braluk; 12-30-2006 at 09:12 AM. Reason: duplicate
 12-30-2006, 09:06 AM #39 3K Member     Status: Resident Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Baltimore Posts: 3,739 VCU/MCV Certificate Program is a great place for people who have low grades and/or MCAT and need a second chance. They accept the GRE also. While their acceptance rate to medical school is not as high as the better known programs they have lower entrance requirments making it easier to get into the program and get your second chance. There are 6 programs that you can apply to: Biochem, Anatomy, Physiology, immunology, genetics, and pharmacology. The base requirements are 2.8 and ~22 MCAT (some programs of the 6 programs have much higher requirements) so almost anyone would qualify. This program is similar to an SMP in that you take most of the 1st year med school curriculum but technically since you only get a 'certificate' instead of a masters after 1 year it is not a standard SMP. If you don't get into med school the first year, you can turn this program into an MS (instead of an MA or MMS like most of the SMPs) which is relatively useful. Again this program is great for people who really need second chances and is also much cheaper than the average SMP.
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 Originally Posted by redsiren great thread thanks braluk! this is my background: -graduated 2006 UC Riv w/ 2.9 GPA in BioSci -MCATs in 2004 that were LOW (didnt honestly put my all into it) -Plan to take GREs by end of FEB -currently working as an EMT No real reason for poor grades, just enjoyed college in the beginnig i guess and now looking for a 2nd chance to show my real capabilities. my only think about retaking the MCATs is i wanna start school as soon as possible, which is why im looking for schools that accept GRE (i know of Drexel MSP already). in short are there any SMPs that i might have a better chance at? any recommendations? any advice in general? thanks
Sounds like you're on the right track, but you're going to have to eventually retake those MCATs one way or another- you can have stellar grades whever you will go for your SMP but your MCAT will always be an issue.

 12-30-2006, 09:30 AM #41 Senior Member   Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 589 Don't forget the ostepathic SMPs This very useful thread has been focused on SMPs to help people get into MD programs. Don't forget that many osteopathic schools also have SMP type programs. PCOM & LECOM come to mind but there are several more. It seems to me that the SMPs help people with high MCATs & so-so GPAa get into MD programs. If your application is really in trouble & you're not a particularly good test taker an osteopathic SMP may be the better bet.
 12-30-2006, 02:00 PM #42 SDN Surgerynator     Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: The Big Easy Posts: 11,854 Good point LindyHopper. Can someone post here about them? I know somewhat of PCOMs program, but do not know much about the osteopathic ones. Would one of you mind adding them here so I can append it to my original post? Thanks!
 01-02-2007, 03:06 PM #43 New Member   Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 64 smp question hey braluk, we went to school together at brandeis, rk from mod 9..lol...anyways man, how is everything at the Univ. of Cincinatti? I read somewhere else you got into Tulane, congratz! I'm actually looking into applying there for Fall 2007 (currently working right now for the Navy), and hopefully matriculate into medical school either Fall 2008 (preferably) or Fall 2009 at the latest, any help you can give will be appreciated.. I took the August 06 MCAT (30 P, 10VR, 10BS, 10PS), have pretty good EC's, etc...but my science gpa is what's really hurting me at 2.9-3.0....i've heard of people who do post-bacc work just by taking advanced undergrad science courses rather than doing a master's , and I want to get your input on it..i'm leaning towards an SMP but not 100% yet
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 Originally Posted by rkonmd hey braluk, we went to school together at brandeis, rk from mod 9..lol...anyways man, how is everything at the Univ. of Cincinatti? I read somewhere else you got into Tulane, congratz! I'm actually looking into applying there for Fall 2007 (currently working right now for the Navy), and hopefully matriculate into medical school either Fall 2008 (preferably) or Fall 2009 at the latest, any help you can give will be appreciated.. I took the August 06 MCAT (30 P, 10VR, 10BS, 10PS), have pretty good EC's, etc...but my science gpa is what's really hurting me at 2.9-3.0....i've heard of people who do post-bacc work just by taking advanced undergrad science courses rather than doing a master's , and I want to get your input on it..i'm leaning towards an SMP but not 100% yet
Hey RK, whats going on man? Sounds like you're doing something really extraordinary. (by the way I was mod 9, weren't you in a different mod lol)

At University of Cincinnati, it's been tough. Tough in terms of workload of course, shared between medical school classes, and thesis work. Being the inaugural first incoming class meant that we had to pave the way for the next class. And we've done alot of paving. Fellow SMPers have established a link with UC's cardiothoracic surgery department, and have started to shadow surgeries, and attend their conferences (free dinner too!). By next year, I wouldn't be surprised if SMP students interned under them. This provides alot of students with the necessary clinical experiences that some individuals may or may not lack. This is definitely something that not many programs out there provide, so its definitely a really cool perk. That aside, we get ALOT of personal attention (the program is only, after all, 20 students) from staff and professors that medical students do not even have. We research under physiology professors (that teach the med classes) and will roll out with a thesis in the summer under their direction and there may be a chance for it to be published as well. Thats why alot of students in my med classes get bewildered (also our main biochem professor is a Brandeis Grad lol), when we get called out by our first names when we have our hands raised. And yes, I did get into Tulane, you probably saw it on my sig or my mdapps, but thank you

You're looking to apply to where for Fall 2007? Tulane or UC?

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I am not sure if it is in this thread...but i asked Braluk this question via PM. I think its important everyone know the answer to this....

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 01-04-2007, 09:41 AM #47 yzarc gniog ylwolS   Status: Medical Student Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 1,459 I did the Barry University 1 year - track one SMP program, so if anyone has any questions just ask me on here or PM me. J
 01-04-2007, 06:56 PM #48 New Member   Status: Pre-Medical Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 24 thanks for the info..im gonna look into it!!! thanks also to braluk
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 Originally Posted by jessy_erin I did the Barry University 1 year - track one SMP program, so if anyone has any questions just ask me on here or PM me. J
How was Barry's program? As a fellow Floridian, I've looked into it, but I don't know anyone who's done it. Were med schools impressed by your record at their SMP? Also, can you tell me which schools you were accepted to and were you accepted after the program or during? Thanks!

 01-06-2007, 09:52 AM #50 Member     Status: Pre-Medical Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: in the lab Posts: 26 I just found out recently that tufts is doing a biomedical science ms program "for students wishing to be stronger medical school applicants" and they are accepting students for their inaugural class in 07 http://www.tufts.edu/med/education/mbs/ I am also in a masters program myself, but its at a school without a medical school, thus the program is essentially half a biology ph.d. which can suck bigtime if you don't find science interesting. I think the science is kinda interesting, but at times not worth the tedium you gotta endure to get the results. For me, I am wondering if my benchwork skills will really show the adcoms that I would be acceptable in medical school more than if I could go back in time and take one of these mini medical school programs instead! Oh yes, and a non-thesis MS program will give you a guaranteed end date, and, well, I was supposed to graduate almost a year ago!! Another point for SMP.

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