2000 UK graduates unemployed

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The situation for UK graduates at the moment is really bleak with around 2000 (1/3) of new graduates without a job.

This is partly due to the huge numbers of overseas graduates grabbing all the jobs.

Please think before coming here for medical training.

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ukdoc said:
The situation for UK graduates at the moment is really bleak with around 2000 (1/3) of new graduates without a job.

This is partly due to the huge numbers of overseas graduates grabbing all the jobs.

Please think before coming here for medical training.

I'm coming to the UK to study medicine. I'm very excited about it.
 
does anyone know if this unemployment rate is a result of an overcompensation with foreign graduates after a shortage of physicians a couple of years back?
 
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lawrencepena said:
does anyone know if this unemployment rate is a result of an overcompensation with foreign graduates after a shortage of physicians a couple of years back?


I thought it was due to the growing population? The UK is quite a multicultural nation with many immigrants becoming UK residents in the past years. The foreign graduate thing has nothing to do with it.
 
ukdoc said:
The situation for UK graduates at the moment is really bleak with around 2000 (1/3) of new graduates without a job.

This is partly due to the huge numbers of overseas graduates grabbing all the jobs.

Please think before coming here for medical training.

Those are awfully large numbers.

Would you mind citing your source(s)?
 
hi there,

Basically came from BMA news and also the national media. Around 2000 UK docs unemployed!
 
Here's a BBC piece from last week.

BBC said:
Junior doctors face unemployment

Unemployment has become a serious threat to junior doctors, the British Medical Association has warned.

It said intense competition for posts had left many without jobs to go to when their contracts end next week.

In a letter to Health Secretary Patricia Hewitt, the BMA said many junior doctors were considering leaving the country or quitting medicine.

The Department of Health admitted competition for posts was fierce, and said it was reviewing the situation.

The BMA said the number of places at medical school had increased and applications from overseas were rising - but the number of postgraduate training posts had not increased at the same rate.

At the same time, many jobs have been phased out as a result of the introduction of a new training structure.

Advert drop

The government has said there has been no reduction in numbers of Senior House Officer (SHO) posts - the middle training grade for doctors.

But the BMA said the number of SHO jobs advertised in the British Medical Journal - by far the main source of such adverts - fell by 50% between May 2002 and May 2005.

Junior doctors

-After medical school, junior doctors are employed as pre-registration house officers
-After that they apply for senior house officer posts
-Most PRHOs and SHOs are currently employed on six month contracts, which are due to expire on 2 August

On average, more than 200 junior doctors apply for every training post, with some jobs attracting over 1,000 applications.

Mr Simon Eccles, chairman of the BMA's Junior Doctors Committee, said: "The situation is far worse than anyone expected.

"We keep hearing from doctors who've been turned down for hundreds of jobs and now have no idea what they're going to do.

"It makes no sense that at a time when the country is short of fully trained medical staff, we're pushing doctors into unemployment.

"It costs around a quarter of a million pounds to train a doctor to this level. A lot of talent and taxpayers' money is going to waste."

The exact number of doctors who have been unable to find a job is not known.

But more than one in three of the 276 first-year doctors who responded to a BMA website survey said they had not been offered a post to start next week, and many more experienced doctors have also been unable to find a job.

Nearly six in 10 (58%) said they would consider going overseas to continue training, and one in three said they would consider leaving the medical profession altogether.

The BMA has called for the government to address the issue by expanding numbers of doctors in higher specialist training.

Government response

A Department of Health spokesperson said the issue was under close review.

There had always been healthy competition for SHO posts, the spokesperson said, but the number of applicants had risen this year.

This might mean that some doctors would not be able to find a SHO post in their first choice of location or specialty.

"We highly value our home grown doctors in whose education and training we have invested heavily, and recognise that they have made a significant commitment to the medical profession and a future career in the NHS.

"We want these doctors to progress and develop their careers in the NHS where we see them as the doctors of the future, delivering modernised, patient-centred services."

But Andrew Lansley, Shadow Secretary of State for Health, said: "It is crazy for hundreds, perhaps even thousands, of recently qualified doctors from overseas to come to the UK looking for training posts; with the result that UK qualified doctors may fail to get training posts."
 
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