Did anyone happen to catch the call schedule for pediatrics in the MGH combined program intern year? Overnights vs night float? Thanks!
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UCSF
Salary & Benefits:
$55.6k (PGY1) -> $62k (PGY4)
- Housing allowance: $1,000/month
- $200 for educational expenses (books)
- 20 days vacation (not great compared to other programs)
- Moonlighting opportunities with good pay starting PGY2 per last year’s post (sorry, don’t have the updated info at this time)
You're right. I'm dumb. Just realized that 20 days is the same as 4 weeks haha, will edit!Wow, where have you been seeing more vacation than that? That's equal to the most I've seen, personally! I'm not sure what I'd even do with more than that.
Some programs assume residents are on the job 7 days a week, others base it on a 5 day week--so the 21 becomes 3 weeks vacation in the former case. Depends on how closely the programs try to match the IM and Surg programs at their institutions.Gotcha - I've also been wondering why 21 days = 15 days in certain cases. You had me thinking maybe all the west coast programs have fancy vacation schedules to make up for cost of living. Guess not. My personal geography didn't extend that far west, so you never know!
technically you need to be licensed to moonlight so it would after you get you license in PGY-2 that you could moonlight internally. last i heard it was $120/hr to moonlight evenings in the ER at Moffit-Long and $140/hr to moonlight during the day in PES at SFGH. there are also weekend moonlighting on the inpatient unit at Langley Porter, I'm not sure how much that pays. Once you're a PGY-3 you can look at external moonlighting opportunities, with opportunities to cash in excess of 200/hr at various hospitals in the bay area. given the CoL moonlighting is more the rule than the exception and personally i think it provides an excellent learning opportunity and diversifies your CV when looking for your first post-residency job.UCSF
- Moonlighting opportunities with good pay starting PGY2 per last year’s post (sorry, don’t have the updated info at this time)
the Upper West Side (which has the reputation of being the suburbia of NYC)
Where do psychiatry BWH residents live? How much are the different bedroom/bathroom options?
Rush University, Chicago IL
1. Ease of Communication:
Standard email communications, got a reminder email with details about pre-interview dinner and interview day. Got contact info for a resident for the pre-interview dinner, too.
2. Accommodation & Food:
Chicago can be an expensive place to visit, but you can find a few cheap airbnb spots around.
I couldn't actually attend the interview dinner unfortunately, but the other applicants raved about it.
3. Interview Day (Schedule, Type of Interview, Unusual Questions, Experiences):
The interview day was pretty laid back. PD and Associate PD delivered a brief overview of the program, with the chair present. Was very informative and focused on highlights that were actually very useful. 5 interviews, 30 minutes each. These were pretty laid back, with a few of the conversations feeling really very engaging. I liked all the faculty I met with. No unusual questions or experiences, everyone was talkative and friendly. I liked the tour, their hospital is beautiful - the tour might have been just a tad bit long, but it's a big hospital so that might be unavoidable. Residents were nice - had a very nice lunch and they were pretty talkative. I liked the co-applicants as well, which hasn't always been true in every interview day.
4. Program Overview:
A lot of the details are readily available on their website. Things I noted: Option for moonlighting in PGY2 in house. New community psych opportunities with some of Chicago's non profits. Balance of psychopharm / psychotherapy approach. Flexibility in PGY1 - can substitute peds or ED months for some IM months. Resident work/life balance seemed genuinely important. Very diverse population. Option for a master's degree research thing to be completed during residency. Interesting new thing with telepsych for veterans not getting care through the VA. The rest you can see on the website.
5. Faculty Achievements & Involvement:
See website. One note important to me was that they've received awards for commitment to LGBTQ care, which may matter if you are LGBTQ or an ally.
6. Location & Lifestyle:
Chicago is a great city. I lived there before medical school, and it is a fantastic place to live. Not cheap per se, but not as expensive as many other major cities. A city of neighborhoods - with a very diverse population.
Rush itself is located on the near W side of town, easily accessible by public transit or driving. Free parking if you drive, a ~2 minute walk if you take the El.
7. Salary & Benefits:
Mid 50s to start. Moonlighting available starting PGY2 in house, at good hourly pay. Good benefits package. All details given on interview day.
8. Program Strengths:
I loved this place. They will be very high on my rank list, if not at the top. So I may be biased/hyped, so take what you will from that.
I'll start with the city. You can't beat Chicago, in my opinion. The Second City will always be first in my heart.
The institution seemed to value psychiatry (it's named after the founder of American psychiatry, after all - who fun fact also signed the declaration of independence).
Internal moonlighting to supplement a good salary.
I liked every person I met, which matters a lot to me.
Fellowship opportunities, including a new fellowship in community psych.
Well established program
Chair seems focused on making research opportunities available (without forcing them on people)
Beautiful facilities
Small class size
Connection to Chicago Psychoanalytic Institute
Starting some new telepsychiatry stuff that sounded very interesting.
9. Potential Weaknesses:
Honestly not seeing a lot that I consider weaknesses. It does seem like you'll work pretty hard intern year, which isn't a weakness to me but might be a negative if you want a more cush residency. Small class could be a negative, depending on you.
10. Overall Impression:
This will be near or at the top of my rank list. I loved this place.
If you're looking for a see everything, do everything, work hard program with great people, that's what this one looks like to me.
I have an interview coming up but I haven't received an interview day schedule nor an email about the location of the pre-interview dinner. How many days before your interview did you receive either of these?
Thanks for contributing and paying it forward for next year.Thank you to all who have contributed such detailed reviews! I found this year's and past years' write-ups to be incredibly helpful when deciding which programs to apply to, and to help process my thoughts after interviews. I unfortunately have not been taking detailed notes on programs but would like to chip in my quick take on a few places that have not been reviewed yet, with a focus on overall impression/vibes/things that stood out to me.
Thank you to all who have contributed such detailed reviews! I found this year's and past years' write-ups to be incredibly helpful when deciding which programs to apply to, and to help process my thoughts after interviews. I unfortunately have not been taking detailed notes on programs but would like to chip in my quick take on a few places that have not been reviewed yet, with a focus on overall impression/vibes/things that stood out to me.
University of Louisville
+ fellowships in child and addiction
+ academic and community service track
+ some cool specialty clinics available PGY3 including psycho-oncology, different substance abuse clinics
+ I really liked all the residents I met. Easy to talk to, down-to-earth, no complaints about the program
+ PD has a special interest in telepsych and there are lots of training opportunities available
+ Louisville seems like a great place to live- decent size, affordable, good food scene. Further north and west that I realized and <5 hour drive to some cities I love, like Chicago, Nashville and St. Louis
+/- I wish I had written more down about this, but there is an opportunity to moonlight somewhere rural out west where you are flown in and put up in a hotel for the weekend, and nicely compensated. However, I vaguely recall that local moonlighting opportunities were scarce
+/- one of the psych units in brand new and beautiful, another that we saw is one of the most depressing facilities I saw on the interview trail
+/- honestly not much stood out to me about the program or curriculum in terms of unique elements, good or bad.
- not much time for electives PGY4- many required inpatient months
- Weekend and short call in the psych ED as a PGY1 even while off service. Call requirements in psych ED continue into PGY3, and you still have 2-3 call shifts per month PGY2 despite 2-3 months of night float
We have a healthy dose of new reviews today - keep them coming, long or short doesn't matter, but it's always great to have multiple perspectives!
Also my apologies that the website is no longer allowing me to edit the initial table of contents post, so keep an eye out here for new reviews.
UPMC/WPIC Pittsburgh
anonymous
1. Ease of Communication: All via email, nothing via ERAS.
2. Accommodation & Food: Stayed at Wyndham Pittsburgh University Center. They have a special discounted WPIC rate you have to call to get. I had to call many times to get the person who actually knew anything about it and could help me. I don't think this was mentioned anywhere, but you get free parking from WPIC for the parking garage next to the hotel and they give you the parking pass when you check in. Dinner the night before was at Cafe Du Jour. They rent out the whole place and really went on and on in advance about how amazing it was. It was probably the best or second best food I had on the trail, but I think I would have enjoyed it more if they hadn't built it up quite so much in advance. There's a seating arrangement that I believe is intended to seat applicants near residents with shared interests, then the residents switch twice during the dinner to mix around a bit more. I was really glad they switched because the residents who were initially near me were *super* weird and it was really uncomfortable trying to make conversation with them. One of them made some very inappropriate (racist) jokes. I also had an odd/offputting interaction with the resident who drove me to the dinner (we carpooled with residents driving). Other than those three residents, everyone seemed perfectly fine/reasonable, but I'm really uncertain now because of them. The program served catered breakfast and lunch on the interview day.
3. Interview Day (Schedule, Type of Interview, Unusual Questions, Experiences):
We met for dinner the night before in the hotel lobby at 6pm (it went until 9 or 9:30pm, I forget exactly). Dinner was mandatory (only place where it wasn't optional that I went). They also had...a lot, I think they said 80min, but it seemed longer to me, of orientation video that they wanted us to watch in advance of the interview day. It was more pleasant than it sounds, because their PD is really funny, but it was still long.
Interview Day: 8am-3:30pm. 8a: breakfast, intro from PD. 8:30a: chair intro. 9a-noon and 1:30p-3:30p: 6 interviews and 2 small group presentations (on the clinician educator track and research track). noon-1:30p: lunch and tour with residents.
Individual interviews were for the most part friendly and relaxed; however, at one interview, a faculty member who is an expert in [pathology x] asked me to explain [pathology x] to him, which was terrifying. There was also a "read my mind" element to it, since what I said clearly wasn't the "right answer" and he kept asking me follow up questions that seemed to be attempting to nudge me toward the correct answer, which I seemed to never get closer to, and eventually he just gave up.
4. Program Overview:
Strengths: research, large psych hospital (280 beds)
Sites:
-WPIC
-St. Margaret's (~20min drive from WPIC)
-UPMC Presbyterian (immediately adjacent to WPIC)
-VA
Psych Research Pathway: #1 in NIH funding since 1980s, mtg with chief, mentors after the match, 2 slots for early 10wk research block in PGY2, early k application, apply by early summer PGY2, 3 protected half days in PGY3
Administrator, Clinician Educator Track: project proposal (gives protected time for projects that require extra time to complete)
Didactics: most residents seem to agree that these are one of the major weaknesses of the program
Clinical:
-PGY1: 3mo family med at St. Margaret's, 1mo family med consult service at WPIC, 2mo neuro consults (half as night float), 3mo DEC (psych ER), 3mo inpt psych (1 motivational interviewing, dual diagnosis), 1mo VA outpt
-PGY2: 10-11wk blocks x 5; mood, CL, psychosis, child, geri; long term dynamic and interpersonal therapy patients (min 1 each)
-PGY3: all outpt. 1d/wk x 6mo geri then child(?), 30-40% clinical electives
-PGY4: forensics and community required, otherwise electives
Electives: community, addiction, adult, developmental disabilities, child/adolescent, ECT, TMS, TDCS, trauma, geri, CL, palliative, forensics, therapy (many types), student health, HIV, pain, sleep, EEG, admin: managed care, policy, admin, quality; research; education
Fellowships: CL, forensic, geri, addiction, child, community/public service; 'access to': pain and sleep
Call:
-PGY-1: 12 shifts, 40 nights
-PGY-2: 4x24h; 17x12h; 15x5h/y
-PGY-3: no call
-PGY-4: no call
Moonlighting: starts PGY2
Graduates: they do many things, lots either stay or later come back to Pittsburgh, re: research ~80% K funding rate (in 3 submissions), ~75% K to R conversion rate
7. Salary & Benefits:
Salary: 57/59/60/63
Parking: $90/mo (!) can take out of pay pre-tax
Insurances: health insurance, basic dental, and basic vision are all free (UPMC pays premiums) with cost sharing for copays/coinsurance/rx; life insurance for annual salary amount provided, can buy more; short term disability at 100% salary, long term disability at 60% salary/max $3k/mo; (Pretty sure this is irrelevant for psych residents, but there is a little section in the benefits book about how if you work for UPMC Mercy, they don't cover benefits for domestic partners, abortion, birth control, sterilization, or REI treatment because they are Catholic, which is pretty creepy.)
Retirement: available, UPMC matches 50% of employee contributions up to 4% of salary after first 6mo of service, vested after 3 years
Tuition remission: 50% off for children (max $6k/y)/spouse/domestic partner (max $2k/y)
8. Program Strengths:
-Research
-Big hospital with lots of subspecialty wards
9. Potential Weaknesses:
-Weird residents
-Rather gloomy weather
-Crazy football fans
Very small corrections here for what it is worth:
Rotation schedule: 2 months total of neuro, 1 month of night float, but I can see where the confusion comes from because the NF is 2 week blocks interleaved with 2 week blocks of neuro. We only do two months of inpatient psych first year, both on the same dual diagnosis unit. The VA rotation is weird and actually you are providing psychiatric services to people engaged in a domiciliary rehab program but it does sort of function like an outpatient clinic, except the patients all are brought on the same bus so they have to show up. We don't rotate on the VA inpatient units really at all because the Other Residency Whose Name We Do Not Speak has that locked up.
You are correct that we do not work for UPMC Mercy in any capacity and thus we have no restrictions whatsoever using our health insurance for reproductive services. Unfortunately part and parcel of the UPMC system being a sprawling octopus of 31 hospitals to date with several acquisitions in the works and some new hospitals just announced (a ginormous cancer center, a standalone transplant hospital) is that some corners of the system still have vestiges of their former identities. Mercy for example agreed to buy out with certain conditions attached, and this was actually contentious enough that their outpatient mental health services spun off into a different and independent agency.
The videos also struck me as very weird as a requirement when I was interviewing here, but our PD just really likes to be thorough and comprehensive. It is coming from a good place.
The access to sleep is very real, we have not historically had problems placing residents in this fellowship. I know less about pain but some people have made a go at palliative/hospice as well and we have a dedicate palliative psychiatry service. About to start an in-hospital addiction psychiatry consult service, which should be interesting.
Always happy to answer questions by PM.
How do you feel the workload is? More, less, about what you expected?
Are you sure about that?Fargo, ND is the rural place you are thinking of.
Are you sure about that?