YES! SO EXCITED FOR YOU!!!I think I'm in at my top pick, Univ of Washington - also my only interview. I'm on the waitlist in the top 10 - and their recent history shows them pulling 25-45 applicants from the waitlist each year. I'm so excited!!!
YES! SO EXCITED FOR YOU!!!I think I'm in at my top pick, Univ of Washington - also my only interview. I'm on the waitlist in the top 10 - and their recent history shows them pulling 25-45 applicants from the waitlist each year. I'm so excited!!!
I think I'm in at my top pick, Univ of Washington - also my only interview. I'm on the waitlist in the top 10 - and their recent history shows them pulling 25-45 applicants from the waitlist each year. I'm so excited!!!
Have you picked up Robbins and Coltran or similar? I was much more worried until I read a few chapters - there's a lot of content to cover but its not any more difficult than o-chem or biochem.
omg are you pre-studying?
Nah my co got me balloons and flowers as I got into various programs! They knew I was doing postbac classes, and gave me 7 weeks unpaid leave to study for the MCAT. I feel very grateful for their support!Anyone else contemplating when to inform their boss that they are going back to school? Some jaws are about to drop.
For me, I have been juggling a busy, full-time tech startup workload with being a part-time premed student (for 4 years!), squeezing in homework and test studying nights, weekends, mornings. Was exhausting!
Being "just" a full-time med student feels like an incoming relief. Fewer things to juggle! An opportunity to focus on just one thing! Yes, I think it will be intense, but I feel like if I treat it like a full-time job, it will be manageable.
Show up, do my work, carve out some time for myself and my partner, call it a day. Rinse, lather, repeat for five years (for me).
Awesome, congratulations!!!I decided on Mayo
I decided on Mayo and am trying to sell my house to get ready to move! I keep having nightmares about having to defer to next year because my house won’t sell.. haha
This was my fear right up until getting a contract on our house this week. We came up with this crazy plan of me subletting from someone doing a Sub-internship while my husband stayed at his job for a bit longer. That still might be the case since my school starts so soon.
Good luck! There are many different ways to make it work, and just the fact that you’ve gotten this far tells me you’ll find some creative way to go regardless!
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Where did you decide to attend? Still holding out for NYU or did the Gainesville love win out?
Sweet! Congrats!Wake Forest came through with a scholarship
Sweet! Congrats!
I decided on Mayo AZ as well, but don't have to worry about selling a house (thanks to the ~830,000 dollar average home in my area this was never really an option).I decided on Mayo and am trying to sell my house to get ready to move! I keep having nightmares about having to defer to next year because my house won’t sell.. haha
I decided on Mayo AZ as well, but don't have to worry about selling a house (thanks to the ~830,000 dollar average home in my area this was never really an option).
I worked 50 hours a week. while studying for the MCAT, I took a total of a week off to prepare. Nights and weekends were not fun for those~ 6 months. I studied for a total of 500~ hours and got a decent score. You should not take the mcat if you arent fully prepared for the mcat.I would love to know if there are any lurkers here that took the MCAT while working full-time? I got a mediocre score on my first test while working a horrible job with odd hours (>60 hours/week starting at 4 a.m.) Now that I have my dream job doing medical research while volunteering in an ER (nothing crazy; 1x a week late at night on a weekend so it doesn't interfere with anything), I want to take a crack at the MCAT again. I'm in no rush to get the test done and am willing to wait to apply to medical school until I have EVERY duck in order (GPA, good MCAT, solid volunteer hours, etc.) So if I need to push my test date 'til the fall of this year, I am willing to.
My situation doesn't allow me to work part-time or not at all. If I could, I would have not worked that horrible odd-job in the first place and had been dedicated to the MCAT to where I was scoring at least +1 above SD of what score I wanted (509.) I do know of the concern of taking too long to study, causing me to lose retention of content I studied in the beginning and more in the middle. However long it takes, though, I'm willing to do it.
I was working 40 hr/wk plus 15 hrs at a part-time job. I set one day (Saturday) a week to devote to my studies by taking a practice exam, and the rest were just late nights and powering through. I did it over four months (May to September). Feel free to PM me for more specifics.I would love to know if there are any lurkers here that took the MCAT while working full-time? I got a mediocre score on my first test while working a horrible job with odd hours (>60 hours/week starting at 4 a.m.) Now that I have my dream job doing medical research while volunteering in an ER (nothing crazy; 1x a week late at night on a weekend so it doesn't interfere with anything), I want to take a crack at the MCAT again. I'm in no rush to get the test done and am willing to wait to apply to medical school until I have EVERY duck in order (GPA, good MCAT, solid volunteer hours, etc.) So if I need to push my test date 'til the fall of this year, I am willing to.
My situation doesn't allow me to work part-time or not at all. If I could, I would have not worked that horrible odd-job in the first place and had been dedicated to the MCAT to where I was scoring at least +1 above SD of what score I wanted (509.) I do know of the concern of taking too long to study, causing me to lose retention of content I studied in the beginning and more in the middle. However long it takes, though, I'm willing to do it.
Based on my experience, I would not recommend what you are considering. I attribute my reluctance to stop working 60+ hours a week to much of the reason why it took me so long to get admitted (although I would not have had it any other way because I have learned so much during this process). It is really hard to truly understand, but when you are working a lot, you become fatigued beyond what you actually are aware of consciously because your body forms maladaptive regular patterns that are extremely difficult to bring to consciousness. Your brain cannot function at optimal capacity and your ability to retain without interference is highly diminished. Through a ton of reflection, I realized I needed to find a way to decrease my working hours and invest in the test....after multiple years of fighting that off, I gave it a chance and increased my score double digit points by doing it. Feel free to PM me for more details or if you have questions...but again, I highly recommend finding a way to take time off or significantly reduce your work hours and devote yourself to the test. Lastly, ask yourself this.....is your current work situation hindering your ability to achieve your long term goals? If the answer is yes, find a way to reallocate your priorities and devote your energy on daily tasks to those that are congruent with meeting your long term goals. Where this is a true will, there is always a way. You got this!I would love to know if there are any lurkers here that took the MCAT while working full-time? I got a mediocre score on my first test while working a horrible job with odd hours (>60 hours/week starting at 4 a.m.) Now that I have my dream job doing medical research while volunteering in an ER (nothing crazy; 1x a week late at night on a weekend so it doesn't interfere with anything), I want to take a crack at the MCAT again. I'm in no rush to get the test done and am willing to wait to apply to medical school until I have EVERY duck in order (GPA, good MCAT, solid volunteer hours, etc.) So if I need to push my test date 'til the fall of this year, I am willing to.
My situation doesn't allow me to work part-time or not at all. If I could, I would have not worked that horrible odd-job in the first place and had been dedicated to the MCAT to where I was scoring at least +1 above SD of what score I wanted (509.) I do know of the concern of taking too long to study, causing me to lose retention of content I studied in the beginning and more in the middle. However long it takes, though, I'm willing to do it.
My post didn't get across what I wanted to lol.Based on my experience, I would not recommend what you are considering. I attribute my reluctance to stop working 60+ hours a week to much of the reason why it took me so long to get admitted (although I would not have had it any other way because I have learned so much during this process). It is really hard to truly understand, but when you are working a lot, you become fatigued beyond what you actually are aware of consciously because your body forms maladaptive regular patterns that are extremely difficult to bring to consciousness. Your brain cannot function at optimal capacity and your ability to retain without interference is highly diminished. Through a ton of reflection, I realized I needed to find a way to decrease my working hours and invest in the test....after multiple years of fighting that off, I gave it a chance and increased my score double digit points by doing it. Feel free to PM me for more details or if you have questions...but again, I highly recommend finding a way to take time off or significantly reduce your work hours and devote yourself to the test. Lastly, ask yourself this.....is your current work situation hindering your ability to achieve your long term goals? If the answer is yes, find a way to reallocate your priorities and devote your energy on daily tasks to those that are congruent with meeting your long term goals. Where this is a true will, there is always a way. You got this!
Also, I can't PM you my questions lol.Based on my experience, I would not recommend what you are considering. I attribute my reluctance to stop working 60+ hours a week to much of the reason why it took me so long to get admitted (although I would not have had it any other way because I have learned so much during this process). It is really hard to truly understand, but when you are working a lot, you become fatigued beyond what you actually are aware of consciously because your body forms maladaptive regular patterns that are extremely difficult to bring to consciousness. Your brain cannot function at optimal capacity and your ability to retain without interference is highly diminished. Through a ton of reflection, I realized I needed to find a way to decrease my working hours and invest in the test....after multiple years of fighting that off, I gave it a chance and increased my score double digit points by doing it. Feel free to PM me for more details or if you have questions...but again, I highly recommend finding a way to take time off or significantly reduce your work hours and devote yourself to the test. Lastly, ask yourself this.....is your current work situation hindering your ability to achieve your long term goals? If the answer is yes, find a way to reallocate your priorities and devote your energy on daily tasks to those that are congruent with meeting your long term goals. Where this is a true will, there is always a way. You got this!
I'm in a situation where I can't drop to part-time or leave this job, for many reasons. Working FT (only 40 hours/week now lol) is my only option; which is fine with me, I'm willing to put in the work and time to get a proper score this time around. I have a giant uphill battle that I know will be harder, seeing my circumstances. But, as Eric Thomas said, "you're already in pain. Get something from it. On the other side of pain is success." That's what I live by at least.@FutureSurgical Just a long time non-trad lurker chiming in... My MCAT experience was pretty much the same as @humblethinker 's. I was working over 60 hours a week, in two very demanding jobs with terrible hours, doing a DIY postbacc, and carving out time for extracurriculars and family, and my MCAT score was terrible. So I dropped everything but the one job (to keep me alive lol) and focused on the MCAT for 3.5 months. My score jumped, I got into an SMP on the basis of it (despite my terrible, terrible GPA) and now I'm sitting on a II and hoping that I'll have an acceptance in a week or two.
So the moral here is: yes you can work full-time but everything else must go? I studied after work (since my job didn't allow me to study during the workday) for about 5 hours a day. On Saturday and Sunday mornings, I woke up around 5 and studied until noon. Then I had the rest of the day free. I rinsed and repeated from January til April. It worked but it was torture. Good luck!!
I'm giving you a shout out for your username, good stuff and very true!Can we get shout outs to schools that seemed non-trad friendly?
i think if you read this thread you will find that most if not all schools are non-trad friendly, provided you have the numbers. If you are asking for schools that allow you to have maintain a home life during the first two years, your best bet is in going to schools which do not have mandatory attendance and are hands off.Can we get shout outs to schools that seemed non-trad friendly?
IMO I think this is something that is person dependent. If you are organized and willing to put in the effort studying after 50 hour work week is possible and will yeild good results. On the flip side is you could be unemployed and dedicate 3 months and still not be able to score well if you havent put in the effort. The MCAT is a fair exam, difficult, but fair. Putting in the time will put a good chunk of people in MD score ranges and a larger chunk of people within DO school ranges. Medical training down the road does not halt when you have to take boards and work as an attending, or when you have to take shelves and spend long hours in MS3. Even in medical school with mandatory class attendance you are putting in 30-40 hours in class room / mandatory activity/lab/ commute times so you still have to study when you get home.Based on my experience, I would not recommend what you are considering. I attribute my reluctance to stop working 60+ hours a week to much of the reason why it took me so long to get admitted (although I would not have had it any other way because I have learned so much during this process). It is really hard to truly understand, but when you are working a lot, you become fatigued beyond what you actually are aware of consciously because your body forms maladaptive regular patterns that are extremely difficult to bring to consciousness. Your brain cannot function at optimal capacity and your ability to retain without interference is highly diminished. Through a ton of reflection, I realized I needed to find a way to decrease my working hours and invest in the test....after multiple years of fighting that off, I gave it a chance and increased my score double digit points by doing it. Feel free to PM me for more details or if you have questions...but again, I highly recommend finding a way to take time off or significantly reduce your work hours and devote yourself to the test. Lastly, ask yourself this.....is your current work situation hindering your ability to achieve your long term goals? If the answer is yes, find a way to reallocate your priorities and devote your energy on daily tasks to those that are congruent with meeting your long term goals. Where this is a true will, there is always a way. You got this!
I looked on MSAR to find schools which had accepted a good number of students 30+ in the last cycle to suss out which schools had a track record of taking non-trads. That being said, the school most enthusiastic about me this cycle ended up being one which skews very young ...
Can we get shout outs to schools that seemed non-trad friendly?
thats interesting , but their curriculum is different. I will say this every one has difficult in medical school or lies about it. It is soo easy to skip a day and be behind for the rest of the unit. If you have the stats to make it in, you have the ability to make it through most curricula.I heard a podcast interview with Baylor, and they came out against non-trads. It seemed that they *might* consider someone who comes from a specific post-bac program, but the gist of the interview was that they feel that students who have been out of school for a few years cannot handle the curriculum. They did, however, accept one person over the age of 30, so you never know...
I heard a podcast interview with Baylor, and they came out against non-trads. It seemed that they *might* consider someone who comes from a specific post-bac program, but the gist of the interview was that they feel that students who have been out of school for a few years cannot handle the curriculum. They did, however, accept one person over the age of 30, so you never know...
I heard a podcast interview with Baylor, and they came out against non-trads. It seemed that they *might* consider someone who comes from a specific post-bac program, but the gist of the interview was that they feel that students who have been out of school for a few years cannot handle the curriculum. They did, however, accept one person over the age of 30, so you never know...
Do you know if that person had a recent post-bac? Must have been impressive! My biggest mistake was listening to that podcast - twice - then applying right after. But 36 is different from 29, I suppose... And my grades just weren't up to par. And I didn't realize the extent of the TX resident requirement.I have a non-trad friend (29 y/o) who interviewed at Baylor this year, OOS. Waitlisted I believe.
Just a few from my personal observations (allo): Wake Forest, OHSU, U.Washington, U.Michigan, Marshall, USUHS, Dartmouth, Rush, Tulane, MayoCan we get shout outs to schools that seemed non-trad friendly?
Do you know if that person had a recent post-bac? Must have been impressive! My biggest mistake was listening to that podcast - twice - then applying right after. But 36 is different from 29, I suppose... And my grades just weren't up to par. And I didn't realize the extent of the TX resident requirement.
I heard a podcast interview with Baylor, and they came out against non-trads. It seemed that they *might* consider someone who comes from a specific post-bac program, but the gist of the interview was that they feel that students who have been out of school for a few years cannot handle the curriculum. They did, however, accept one person over the age of 30, so you never know...
Hey everyone! What's the latest? Who's waiting? Who's getting ready to move? How many more success stories do we have?
Hey, that sounds really promising! Fingers crossed for you that April 30-May 1 will bring you good news. UW would be an amazing place to spend the next four years.I'm still playing the waiting game at my top-pick (Univ of Washington). I'm in the top 10 of the alternate list, and there has finally been a little bit of movement, so I'm hoping to have a legit spot by the med school commit date next week.
Good list. Brown LOVES non-trads too from what I have heard. And of course most DO schools like non-tradsJust a few from my personal observations (allo): Wake Forest, OHSU, U.Washington, U.Michigan, Marshall, USUHS, Dartmouth, Rush, Tulane, Mayo
I'll second what willow84 said - the dean of admissions at UF talked with a few of us at second look and stated that he is actively trying to recruit non-trads there. They accept very few OOS applicants, so this is helpful mainly for FL residents. UCF seems to like non-trads as well, and is accepting more and more OOS applicants, so you can add them to the list. I also felt that Hofstra values life experience, so I'll add them as well.
So adding to @Hazel-rah: Wake Forest, OHSU, U.Washington, U.Michigan, Marshall, USUHS (must matriculate by age 36) (don't ask how I know), Dartmouth, Rush, Tulane, Mayo, UF, UCF, Hofstra
Can anyone comment on Miami? I know they periodically have students over the age of 40 there, so they seem relatively open to non-traditional students, but I don't get the sense that they actively try to recruit them
I won't lie, going to second look and seeing some of the straight-through crowd that are just gearing up for the same old has made me super nervous that (1) I won't fit in and (2) I have a massive adjustment to make. Granted I've only been out for 3 years, but I have done zero classwork in those years outside of MCAT study.Just curious if anyone else is getting anxious about starting. I was excited and recently I have started super nervous
Just curious if anyone else is getting anxious about starting. I was excited and recently I have started super nervous
I won't lie, going to second look and seeing some of the straight-through crowd that are just gearing up for the same old has made me super nervous that (1) I won't fit in and (2) I have a massive adjustment to make. Granted I've only been out for 3 years, but I have done zero classwork in those years outside of MCAT study.
I am very nervous. Not about the classes, but the fact that I'm leaving a cushy six figure job and going to become broke really fast. Moving costs are also looking a lot higher than I anticipated which is making me even more anxious.