40M low ASCVD, will statin reduce risk of plaque over time?

This forum made possible through the generous support of SDN members, donors, and sponsors. Thank you.

common man

Full Member
10+ Year Member
Joined
Jun 22, 2009
Messages
485
Reaction score
14
Hi colleagues. I'm a new PCP. I have 40M with ASCVD risk < 2% who has LDL 150. His previous doctor put him in atorvastatin 10. The argument is that keeping the LDL down on a young guy will reduce the risk of plaque build up. Pt wants to know why I am waiting till he turns 60 for the ASCVD risk score to go up before starting statin. How do I explain the rationale to the patient? Are there any references or guidelines you can direct me too? Thanks for your help.

Members don't see this ad.
 
If you're concerned, can consider getting a calcium score to better risk stratify.
 
the lower your risk the harder it is to see benefit in a therapy
 
  • Like
Reactions: 2 users
Members don't see this ad :)
This is a really interesting area without much data. We do often think about using statins to lower MACE, but what actually happens in terms of coronary plaque burden? There happens to be a study by Steve Nissen (former chairman of CV dept at Cleveland Clinic) called the REVERSAL trial (JAMA 2004) which compared high-intensity therapy (80mg atorvastatin) versus moderate-intensity (40mg pravastatin) for halting the progression of coronary atherosclerosis. Now, notably, this study was in patients who had known non-obstructive CAD (e.g. 20-50% stenosis), and your patient likely has normal coronaries (e.g. <20% stenosis). However, what the study showed was that atorva 80 but not prava 40 stopped progression of atherosclerotic burden.

While we do not have the exact data to your specific question, it is not unreasonable nor crazy to think that early statin therapy may reduce in a dose-dependent manner future atherosclerosis, meaning potentially increase time to first MACE, though perhaps not stop. However, there is no real evidence for this as of yet, and your patient should at the least know that the practice is not evidence-based though perhaps well-intentioned.

On the other hand, what's the downside if tolerated well? With the first statin trials in 1980s, we have long-term safety data now and there does not seem to be some crazy long-term statin consequence. To be clear - I am not advocating for a non-evidence based practice, but just throwing out a thought.
 
  • Like
Reactions: 1 users
This is a really interesting area without much data. We do often think about using statins to lower MACE, but what actually happens in terms of coronary plaque burden? There happens to be a study by Steve Nissen (former chairman of CV dept at Cleveland Clinic) called the REVERSAL trial (JAMA 2004) which compared high-intensity therapy (80mg atorvastatin) versus moderate-intensity (40mg pravastatin) for halting the progression of coronary atherosclerosis. Now, notably, this study was in patients who had known non-obstructive CAD (e.g. 20-50% stenosis), and your patient likely has normal coronaries (e.g. <20% stenosis). However, what the study showed was that atorva 80 but not prava 40 stopped progression of atherosclerotic burden.

While we do not have the exact data to your specific question, it is not unreasonable nor crazy to think that early statin therapy may reduce in a dose-dependent manner future atherosclerosis, meaning potentially increase time to first MACE, though perhaps not stop. However, there is no real evidence for this as of yet, and your patient should at the least know that the practice is not evidence-based though perhaps well-intentioned.

On the other hand, what's the downside if tolerated well? With the first statin trials in 1980s, we have long-term safety data now and there does not seem to be some crazy long-term statin consequence. To be clear - I am not advocating for a non-evidence based practice, but just throwing out a thought.
Thank you for a very precise and helpful answer
 
If you're concerned, can consider getting a calcium score to better risk stratify.
Good thought my understanding is that is best for people in the middle e.g. 7.5-10% ASCVD who are not sure if they want to proceed with statin.
 
Top