What is the point in going to pharmacy school if you end up 200k in debt!!?? Both schools near me are so expensive it is a little frightening to have that kind of debt. Is it worth it?
I wouldn't do it if I was ending up 200k in debt...it probably wouldn't pencil out finance wise (or even in any other sense) for me at that point. I'll be a bit over 100k, which is more than enough to scare me.What is the point in going to pharmacy school if you end up 200k in debt!!?? Both schools near me are so expensive it is a little frightening to have that kind of debt. Is it worth it?
I agree with what RxMPLS said as well. I think most schools that I am applying to are about 30k a year.
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You can have passion for patients and not want to be in this profession. Who wants to be 200k in debt to help people? There are many career choices where such drastic measures don't have to be taken.If money is your sole reason or hindrance in to the profession then please do not enter pharmacy. My profession doesn't need ignorant person. You need to have a passion for patient care rather than monetary desires.
Is it worth it?
If you really want to help people, volunteer. No debt that way either.
If money is your sole reason or hindrance in to the profession then please do not enter pharmacy. My profession doesn't need ignorant person. You need to have a passion for patient care rather than monetary desires.
Best reply ever. So true, so very true...
I wouldn't do it if I was ending up 200k in debt. I'll be a bit over 100k, which is more than enough to scare me.
If you really want to help people, volunteer. No debt that way either.
http://youtu.be/1Y6kTsBNH78
This guy paid off $101K in 7 months and he didn't make 6 figures after taxes. So I guess it depends on your definition of worth.
He must have gotten help from his parents or some other people. Otherwise it could be mathematically IMPOSSIBLE to pay off $101K in 7 months.
You would be hard pressed to pay $101K in 7 months making six figures much less without six figures...just use some math here.
He didn't as far as I can tell. The way he did it was he rented out rooms in his house, getting two extra jobs on the side, selling any and everything he had, and not spending a whole lot of money. Mathematically speaking it can work, but you just have to be disciplined and stick to a budget.
http://nomoreharvarddebt.com/ He blogged about the experience.
He didn't as far as I can tell. The way he did it was he rented out rooms in his house, getting two extra jobs on the side, selling any and everything he had, and not spending a whole lot of money. Mathematically speaking it can work, but you just have to be disciplined and stick to a budget.
http://nomoreharvarddebt.com/ He blogged about the experience.
He didn't as far as I can tell. The way he did it was he rented out rooms in his house, getting two extra jobs on the side, selling any and everything he had, and not spending a whole lot of money. Mathematically speaking it can work, but you just have to be disciplined and stick to a budget.
http://nomoreharvarddebt.com/ He blogged about the experience.
Ok, so I have been reading a lot of threads about debt and the doom and gloom of Pharmacy. Here is my $.02 worth.... When I graduate from Pharm school I will be 48yrs old and have over $200K in debt. That is not scarry....what is scarry, is the responsibility you will have in your hands as a medical professional. In my life I have worked many years as a Paramedic on an ambulance, in an E.R., and other jobs with similar responsibilities. Medical care is a profession to be taken seriously and enter only if you are ready to commit to that.
School loans are no different than car loans, house notes, etc. They are a bill that must be paid. Yes, I know they can be quite large but so is the pay. Most people on SDN and entering this profession are <30yrs old. Remember, your career as a 30ish yr old Pharmacist can give 40+ years of income. Do not let your debt define your passion. As long as you do not have to live in a million dollar mansion and drive a $100K car, you will be quite comfortable even with this debt. After all, it is like having a second house note.
I am not trying to chastise anyone but rather to put money into perspective. Realistically, we all want to help people but money is a major consideration at all levels. Most of us like to eat every day and live where the rain doesn't fall on our heads when we sleep.
Just please understand, money is only paper. The lives you touch are much more important. If you value this calling, the money will be well spent.
Ok, so I have been reading a lot of threads about debt and the doom and gloom of Pharmacy. Here is my $.02 worth.... When I graduate from Pharm school I will be 48yrs old and have over $200K in debt. That is not scarry....what is scarry, is the responsibility you will have in your hands as a medical professional. In my life I have worked many years as a Paramedic on an ambulance, in an E.R., and other jobs with similar responsibilities. Medical care is a profession to be taken seriously and enter only if you are ready to commit to that.
School loans are no different than car loans, house notes, etc. They are a bill that must be paid. Yes, I know they can be quite large but so is the pay. Most people on SDN and entering this profession are <30yrs old. Remember, your career as a 30ish yr old Pharmacist can give 40+ years of income. Do not let your debt define your passion. As long as you do not have to live in a million dollar mansion and drive a $100K car, you will be quite comfortable even with this debt. After all, it is like having a second house note.
I am not trying to chastise anyone but rather to put money into perspective. Realistically, we all want to help people but money is a major consideration at all levels. Most of us like to eat every day and live where the rain doesn't fall on our heads when we sleep.
Just please understand, money is only paper. The lives you touch are much more important. If you value this calling, the money will be well spent.
Just please understand, money is only paper. The lives you touch are much more important. If you value this calling, the money will be well spent.
eh, what's the point, it's just money.....
True, money is only paper and touching lives is great....BUT, people not thinking like economists and weighing the opportunity costs and renumeration are fools...and a fool and his/her money are soon parted.
If the calculation switched such that you'd have to go $300k in debt to make $75k/yr...only a fool would make that kind of investment. You can help people and do all that feel good stuff with a better ROI in a different field.
Ok, so I have been reading a lot of threads about debt and the doom and gloom of Pharmacy. Here is my $.02 worth.... When I graduate from Pharm school I will be 48yrs old and have over $200K in debt. That is not scarry....what is scarry, is the responsibility you will have in your hands as a medical professional. In my life I have worked many years as a Paramedic on an ambulance, in an E.R., and other jobs with similar responsibilities. Medical care is a profession to be taken seriously and enter only if you are ready to commit to that.
School loans are no different than car loans, house notes, etc. They are a bill that must be paid. Yes, I know they can be quite large but so is the pay. Most people on SDN and entering this profession are <30yrs old. Remember, your career as a 30ish yr old Pharmacist can give 40+ years of income. Do not let your debt define your passion. As long as you do not have to live in a million dollar mansion and drive a $100K car, you will be quite comfortable even with this debt. After all, it is like having a second house note.
I am not trying to chastise anyone but rather to put money into perspective. Realistically, we all want to help people but money is a major consideration at all levels. Most of us like to eat every day and live where the rain doesn't fall on our heads when we sleep.
Just please understand, money is only paper. The lives you touch are much more important. If you value this calling, the money will be well spent.
For a second, I wondered what had happened to the confetti we all know and love.
Sorry, I have to be honest here. You are doing others a disservice by suggesting that 200k is a remotely reasonable price for a profession with a dwindling future.
200k is a downright scam. Take note that the price is NOT determined by the cost or the value.
Price is determined by what people are willing to pay.
As long as people are deluded into believing pharmacy is some sort of "dream job", as long as they think that a loan for school is comparable to a mortgage, as long as they think the amount of money they pay is a test of their "commitment", they will continue to be exploited for it.
We live in a time where the cost of everything is going up while the purchasing power of the dollar is on a decline, job opportunities are becoming more scarce and someone is trying to sell you something around every corner.
The world is changing but most of society remains oblivious. Those who have the foresight to see this change will prosper over those who follow the herd into the slaughterhouse.
A really good business guy told me you should never take out more than you will be able to make in 1 year. If a pharmacist make 200K a year than 200K would be the MAX. But since Pharmacist only make about 100k to 110K a yr than I would not go over 100K unless you don't mind getting rip off.
I mean would you pay 10,000 over kelly blue book value for a car? Of course NOT! So you shouldn't take out more than you make in 1 year of student loans. It just won't benefit you at all if you do.
A really good business guy told me you should never take out more than you will be able to make in 1 year. If a pharmacist make 200K a year than 200K would be the MAX. But since Pharmacist only make about 100k to 110K a yr than I would not go over 100K unless you don't mind getting rip off.
I mean would you pay 10,000 over kelly blue book value for a car? Of course NOT! So you shouldn't take out more than you make in 1 year of student loans. It just won't benefit you at all if you do.
Agreed. 1yr salary should be your guide, so your degree should cost no more than $120k to obtain.
Living expenses are another story, I argue those don't count since you'd be spending them regardless of what you're doing, but adding those to your student loan pile is a grey area.
For the record I did that and owe >200k cumulative (undergrad + rx school), but under pslf/ibr I will end up paying <$100k of that, so my #'s work.