Age old problem

[nimbus]

Anesthesia clean kill. In an operating room no less.

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[IMGASMD]

Wow. This one will be hard to defend, in this country. It’s also very surprising to me, how much the physician told the ME.

 

[coffeebythelake]

Christ. This is anesthesia 101

 

[lymphocyte]

A similar case from Australia where EtCO2 was used but misinterpreted.

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[BLADEMDA]

“Capnography in Cardiac Arrest: No Trace = Wrong Place”.

 

[Mman]

“Capnography in Cardiac Arrest: No Trace = Wrong Place”.

I find the wording of that title to be a bit misleading/confusing. I mean if you have no cardiac output, you are not going to have much of a tracing for very long. Effective CPR will restore a tracing. So I went and read more about their initiative and it's basically intended for non-anesthesiologists to remind them that they need to see ETCO2 tracing to confirm intubation in the trachea.


Regarding this case, I'm mostly uncertain of the roles of the various people involved. It calls the first doctor in the room an anesthestist, but the one that later came in to help and ultimately recognized the problem a consultant anesthetist. That leads me to believe the first one was the equivalent of a resident and the attending later came in.

 

[vector2]

I find the wording of that title to be a bit misleading/confusing. I mean if you have no cardiac output, you are not going to have much of a tracing for very long. Effective CPR will restore a tracing. So I went and read more about their initiative and it's basically intended for non-anesthesiologists to remind them that they need to see ETCO2 tracing to confirm intubation in the trachea.


Regarding this case, I'm mostly uncertain of the roles of the various people involved. It calls the first doctor in the room an anesthestist, but the one that later came in to help and ultimately recognized the problem a consultant anesthetist. That leads me to believe the first one was the equivalent of a resident and the attending later came in.

It sounds like the one who put her to sleep was a consultant and the one who came to assist was also a consultant.

 

[dabears505]

What are malpractice lawsuits like in the UK?

 

[coffeebythelake]

What are malpractice lawsuits like in the UK?

NHS being government run I would assume low malpractice liability. I always read about inquests being performed to find out the sequence of events leading to injury and death, but not much in terms of actual monetary damages.

 

[Mman]

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It sounds like the one who put her to sleep was a consultant and the one who came to assist was also a consultant.

perhaps I misunderstood on my initial reading

 

[GassYous]

That's why it's important not to panic

 

[DrOwnage]

Goosed a tube the other day in a GIII view, immediately recognized just by the feel of the bag, no increase in HR, or end tidal. This is simple stuff, poor patient.