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Haha. Alot of the blame has to rest on the postdoc and PI. Sounds like didn't make enough of an effort to give you a managable project for an undergrad.
Vox Animo said:Used gloves that handle a gel that had etbr (carcinogen). they typed up something on a computer with the gloves still on. a professor saw me and freaked out. I dont know why i didn't think of taking the damn things off.
OctoDoc said:Don't worry. ETB is not that bad. Just because it is labeled a carcinogen doesn't guarantee it'll give you cancer from a brief exposure.
Old fart chemists used to wash their hands in benzene, HMPA, and HMPT, and a whole bunch of supposedly nasty stuff. They are still around today, no worse for wear.
That ER episode with the benzene contamination makes me want to kick Michael Crichton's a$$. What a douche.
Surg Path said:Yeah Crichton is a bit of a quak.
Doesn't sound like you got ETB on you, but it's seriously carcinogenic- above and beyond benzene- or so people say. I haven't tried.
Ahh, the good old days, when kids played with mercury for fun.
OctoDoc said:I was an organic chemist for 15 or so years. I specialized in fluorescent and phosphorescent stilbenoid and azo dyes, some of the worst carcinogens known.
No boobs (stilbenoids) or cancer (both) that I can detect.
Trust me, ETB is nuthin'.
One of the guys in our lab has done this on several occasions. It freaks me out everytime I see somebody waiting on a gel sln to cool down get anywhere near a computer.Vox Animo said:Used gloves that handle a gel that had etbr (carcinogen). they typed up something on a computer with the gloves still on. a professor saw me and freaked out. I dont know why i didn't think of taking the damn things off.
deuist said:I've...splashed myself in the face with a dilute HF/HNO3 solution. ...
OctoDoc said:Wow! HF is a bone seeker, meaning that it doesn't readily damage flesh. Instead, it is absorbed into the bone near where contact was made, and can cause problems years after exposure. I hope it was very dilute. If not, don't be surprised if your face hurts years down the road. And not because you're ugly (J/K!!).
deuist said:That was a year ago. I immediately washed my face off in the sink when it happened. Another student made a concentrated HF bomb that went off in his hand. He was wearing his PPE, but still had to take a safety showers (sans clothing) and spent a night in the ED.
nrddct said:Anyone ever have to use the emergency shower?
OctoDoc said:When you say "bomb," do you mean the testosterone-induced "wouldn't it be cool to blow something up so lets make a HF bomb" bomb, or a high pressure reaction vessel in the chemistry laboratory bomb?
whoa! it's been forever since orgo, but that sounds like it has a lot of h's and n's and could be a decent reducing agent. how exactly did it affect you? vapors? through your skin?OctoDoc said:hydrazine hydrate
anon-y-mouse said:whoa! it's been forever since orgo, but that sounds like it has a lot of h's and n's and could be a decent reducing agent. how exactly did it affect you? vapors? through your skin?
frany584 said:My personal favorite was in organic, which every lab basically consisted of purifying and making crystals. I never had such luck with making those stupid crystals; I would always get brown when they were supposed to be white, or yellow when they should be brown, but the weirdest one was when I actually didn't get crystals at all...I got this thing that looked like a piece of chewed gum lol My professor never could explain what went wrong, but he was pretty puzzled at how I made that!
Surg Path said:Yeah Crichton is a bit of a quak.
Doesn't sound like you got ETB on you, but it's seriously carcinogenic- above and beyond benzene- or so people say. I haven't tried.
Ahh, the good old days, when kids played with mercury for fun.
LT2 said:this girl in my lab was trying to make some 1 M arabinose. She came to one of the other grad students (this woman is also a grad student) because she said she couldn't get the arabinose into solution (even after heating it). He asked to see the flask so he could help her out, so she brought it over. He immediately recognized her "arabinose" as the packing material in the box her bottle of arabinose came in. the bottle was still buried in the box... we laughed at this for weeks.
OctoDoc said:Same thing happened in my lab. A new grad student came to me and said that he was having trouble dissolving bromine into his solution, and that he even tried grinding it in a mortar and pestle. WTF? I went over to his lab bench, and he was grinding the vermiculite packing material!
ClarinetGeek said:
Come on! You can't be serious!
hildaluc said:AHHH - animals are the worst!!!!! I worked in a lab using mice and rats where we had to hold the mice flipped over on their back with their head immobilized to deliver their doses. Sometimes they would COMPLETELY freak out and DIE!!! In your hands! Like have a heart attack or panic attack or something - can you imagine killing an animal with your hands??!?! Holy "Of Mice and Men" gone bad...
LT2 said:sorry to be a total geek, but isnt' EtBr a mutagen?
anyway, i have a funny story...
this girl in my lab was trying to make some 1 M arabinose. She came to one of the other grad students (this woman is also a grad student) because she said she couldn't get the arabinose into solution (even after heating it). He asked to see the flask so he could help her out, so she brought it over. He immediately recognized her "arabinose" as the packing material in the box her bottle of arabinose came in. the bottle was still buried in the box... we laughed at this for weeks.
Surg Path said:Yup EB denatures your DNA- fcks it all up. But I still put it on my tuna sandwhich for that extra kick!
LT2 said:it intercalates, it doesn't denature...
and i can't believe someone else tried to dissolve vermiculite, that's pretty funny. especially the mortar and pestle part...
Bluntman said:Ohh I see. The protocol I was taught (and that is ingrained in my mind since we were working with compressed liquid Cl2 cylinders around our government clients) is that it's supposed to be chained to the wall, or you're supposed to have the protective cap in place over the regulator before any sort of transport/movement.
I've always wanted to see one fly tho...heard they can go through walls!
Squad51 said:When I was a young lad (thankfully the statute of limitations has passed) some friends and I took some tanks from a bankbrupt machine shop owned by my friend's dad. We set them up, nozzle down, with a cinder block raising the "bottom" and took turns smashing the nozzles off with a 16# sledgehammer, thus launching them into a lake. They do fly impressively!
OctoDoc said:Don't worry. ETB is not that bad. Just because it is labeled a carcinogen doesn't guarantee it'll give you cancer from a brief exposure.
Old fart chemists used to wash their hands in benzene, HMPA, and HMPT, and a whole bunch of supposedly nasty stuff. They are still around today, no worse for wear.
That ER episode with the benzene contamination makes me want to kick Michael Crichton's a$$. What a douche.
dilated said:My lab mishaps were beyond counting, but a favorite was doing a simple conversion of an alcohol to an iodine via PPh3 on like a 30 gram scale. I slowly added my iodine at 0C and everything seemed fine. Then I realized it hadn't been stirring vigorously enough as it was added, the iodine was at the bottom and the PPh3 was floating on top, and just as I realized that the stirrer splashed them into contact.. it bubbled up ominously, slowly enough for me to go "Oh, shi--" before the 24/40 glass stopper on the 3neck shot across the lab and shattered, followed by a giant orange geyser of 250mL methylene chloride and a few dozen grams of iodine/imidazole. The impact was rather impressive. My yield was 27%.
novawildcat said:I once accidently spilled all over my face and ingested some of this-
akestler said:I was lucky.
akestler said:I was in the process of acidifying a polyaromatic hydrocarbon with a very strong lewis acid (PBr3) agent while refluxing in benzene. Upon completion, the instructions said pour over water and shake. Be it lack of sleep or hangover from the night before, I didnt think to use ice water and immediately poured entire mixture into sep funnel for separation. Since this was my first compound of a grand synthesis I was working on a very large scale (~20g).
OctoDoc said:No kidding. You should have used the safety shower. My o-chem professor told us of one student that got an acid (I'm guessing sulfuric) splashed all over her. She was forced under the safety shower against her will, and was encouraged to take off her sweater. Even when the prof tried to pull it off of her, she grabbed it and fought to keep it on. She was embarassed that the other students in the class would see her unclothed. Because she kept her acid-soaked sweater on, she sufferred massive scarring to her torso. He then looked at our entire lab class and said, "If you are under the safety shower, STRIP! That is no time for modesty!"