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Just wondering if you guys know which programs do a lot of cleft's...
Thanks.
Thanks.
Just wondering if you guys know which programs do a lot of cleft's...
Thanks.
Just wondering if you guys know which programs do a lot of cleft's...
Thanks.
Just wondering if you guys know which programs do a lot of cleft's...
Thanks.
I understand that Little Rock Arkansas Children Hospital has a great OMS program they get to travel to foreign countries and get to practice probably 175 to 250 cases per medical brigade in one week.
Also Mayo Clinic has a super OMFS program involving TMJ, ENT surgery and Cancer reconstruction, I've made my grad Thesis in New Surgical Tech's for correction of Hare Lip and Cleft Palate, palato-plasties and quielosplasties , using Tennisson-Randall and Ralph Millard for lips, combined with Wardill's (push-back) for palatal corrections. Rhynoplasties is very useful regarding the reintegration of the little patient's facial appearance.
Dr.OMS FAN, as you are now, I was very enthusiastic when I started my OMS residency and I thought that if I knew the most surgical tech's I would be very much successful, first, once you get to your own practice believe me you dont have to worry about income but quality professionalism, second, the best money is made through facial deformities, Laser Resurfacing and Rejuvenations techs, Blepharoplasties, Rhynoplasties, Chin Implants, and most of all Minor surgical procedures as well as to Traumatologies cases. Big time money is Dental Implants, bone grafts like Ridge augmentation and Sinus bone grafts, even the Subperiostical Implants are very useful in thin Madibular bones, TMJ are an excellent source of important income and of course if you like to perform Third's is up to you, I find it very time consuming so I pass those.
oms fan, I apologize to you , I meant to offer my very humble professional and personal info, unfortunally as we all know there certain types of unsecure students or maybe resident beginer that perhaps have read some literature about OMS and now they are feeling like experts, These are the cases where all professional jelousy starts old problems within the OMS community, I wonder how many of this kids have gotten a law suit for talking to much. Maybe they need a GLOSSOPLASTY reduction combined with a glossograft into their anal esphinter so they can fulfill and satisfy their own ego. Again I apologize and my best recommendation is that you, as I did, send an email to ADA and ask for the OMS programs and just find out by yourself. Any program is excellent, Cleft Lip and Palate is NOT a source of any income due to the fact of its incidence, mainly pretty much public hospital and private entities do them for free. And for your future specialty just because you have done some CLP doesn't mean that suddenly you've became a Pediatric Plastic Surgeon. Carry with pride you post-doctoral degree OMS. THE worlds best OMFS programs are not in USA, if you are able to try England, France, Germany has a super OMS program, and last but least you could even try Japan medical /dental School, which they have one of the best OMS program worldwide.Just wondering if you guys know which programs do a lot of cleft's...
Thanks.
oms fan, I apologize to you , I meant to offer my very humble professional and personal info, unfortunally as we all know there certain types of unsecure students or maybe resident beginer that perhaps have read some literature about OMS and now they are feeling like experts.....
Just wondering if you guys know which programs do a lot of cleft's...
Thanks.
Programs I know get pretty good exposure to craniofacial are Pittsburgh w/Costello, Louisville w/Tiwana, Maryland w/Caccamese (not sure how busy these days, but trying to build his practice), Shreveport w/Ghali (I think... he pretty much does everything...), and Michigan just got a Costello trained guy there. Here at UAB, we do a lot of ICBG for cleft pt's around 6-9 years old, and a week long mission trip to Mexico for primary closure yearly. Hope this helps...
oms fan, I apologize to you , I meant to offer my very humble professional and personal info, unfortunally as we all know there certain types of unsecure students or maybe resident beginer that perhaps have read some literature about OMS and now they are feeling like experts, These are the cases where all professional jelousy starts old problems within the OMS community, I wonder how many of this kids have gotten a law suit for talking to much. Maybe they need a GLOSSOPLASTY reduction combined with a glossograft into their anal esphinter so they can fulfill and satisfy their own ego. Again I apologize and my best recommendation is that you, as I did, send an email to ADA and ask for the OMS programs and just find out by yourself. Any program is excellent, Cleft Lip and Palate is NOT a source of any income due to the fact of its incidence, mainly pretty much public hospital and private entities do them for free. And for your future specialty just because you have done some CLP doesn't mean that suddenly you've became a Pediatric Plastic Surgeon. Carry with pride you post-doctoral degree OMS. THE worlds best OMFS programs are not in USA, if you are able to try England, France, Germany has a super OMS program, and last but least you could even try Japan medical /dental School, which they have one of the best OMS program worldwide.
... Cleft Lip and Palate is NOT a source of any income due to the fact of its incidence, mainly pretty much public hospital and private entities do them for free...
...Anyway, back to the subject, I have been told that Carle does the most primary cleft work.
Just wondering if you guys know which programs do a lot of cleft's...
Thanks.
Thanks Guys. I appreciate the info.
So lets say you want to do a fellowship in an area that your particular program wasn't really strong but you somehow got exposure and got all worked up over it. Example, you go to UCLA where you get essentially no cancer, but you try to get into a fellowship in Onc...Does this make it very difficult? I guess what I'm asking is should you really focus on programs that tend to do a lot of procedures in the area that you guess you may really like? I would lean towards looking at programs that tend to be pretty well rounded without a major slant toward any given area so that I get some decent exposure to all and then get to really make an eduated choice.
Now that our good buddy Frank is gone, I thought I'd repost this to see if there are any takers.
Ok, first of all, there is no OMFS program in Arkansas...
Second, going on a cleft mission to a third world country is not the same as doing clefts routinely in a modern hospital setting. The cleft patients you see on those missions are certainly not your common cleft surgery patients... You end up doing primary lips on like 6 or 7 year old kids... Hardly the same as on a 3-6 month old infant.
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Please, some third world countries have the best hospital settings for the interdisciplinary treatment of CLP. Just check out Hospital de Especialidades Pediatricas in Maracaibo, Venezuela!
Ok, first of all, there is no OMFS program in Arkansas...
Second, going on a cleft mission to a third world country is not the same as doing clefts routinely in a modern hospital setting. The cleft patients you see on those missions are certainly not your common cleft surgery patients... You end up doing primary lips on like 6 or 7 year old kids... Hardly the same as on a 3-6 month old infant.
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Please, some third world countries have the best hospital settings for the interdisciplinary treatment of CLP. Just check out Hospital de Especialidades Pediatricas in Maracaibo, Venezuela!
I'm glad they have nice facilities like that. But that sitll does not compare to the training provided in a Fully Accredited AAOMS residency in an ultra modern American Hospital on a WEEKLY for 4 YEARS IN A ROW... plus 3rd world mission trips in your Chief Year. There are some programs which do Cleft Lip/Palate surgery (plus the other associated operations) on an almost weekly basis.
Ok, first as on a 3-6 month old infant.
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Please, some third world countries have the best hospital settings for the interdisciplinary treatment of CLP. Just check out Hospital de Especialidades Pediatricas in Maracaibo, Venezuela!
Good for Venezuela. They have guys like Guerrero doing some crazy distraction stuff down there, so I am sure they are fine (that dude brings this sexy little Venezuelan vixen along with him when he lectures. I love her. Rawr).
For your average cleft mission, you are in an old hospital where you are bringing most of your own instruments, suture materials, etc...
That is all. Thank you.
Oklahoma has a massive cleft program and fellowship with Dr SmithJust wondering if you guys know which programs do a lot of cleft's...
Thanks.
The topic is primary and secondary cleft repairs.1. Maxillofacial prosthodontics programs will do a lot of these (unless you're in a major cancer center).
2. Also Case Western Reserve University has a craniofacial orthodontic fellowship.
Both of these require you to do Prosthodontics and Orthodontics residencies first, respectively.
Sorry i misunderstood, i just read "programs that do a lot of cleft's..."The topic is primary and secondary cleft repairs.