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  1. Miss Alyssa

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    I think for FM you'd have to look at the different tracks. My friends that just matched, one was looking at programs with strong rural health medicine, another wanted unopposed programs in general, another was looking for a strong women's health component so a fellowship wouldnt be necessary, another wanted international experience built in etc.

    For a field that's so broad, which draws people in for many different reasons, it might be hard to make a list in the style of the OP.
  2. lacrosse87

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    I'll add that Scheie is awesome for retina research
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    This way for years:

    General Surgery
    UTSW,
    Hopkins, MGH

    UT Southwestern has the largest and best GS program on earth. They turn out 13 surgeons every year, each with >50 job offers.
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    They have a rep for being very malignant though, even if the training and academic reputation are outstanding. Same can be said for UPenn surgery.
  6. Green Grass

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    Ortho is a difficult specialty to categorize. For me, I look at it this way. Either the program is "academic" or "community" and either the program has "lots of trauma" or "weak on trauma". Depending on your career goals, you will decide on academic or community. Depending on how much you want to operate and have your own surgical decision-making, you choose between autonomy or no autonomy.

    I know far more about the academic ortho programs, so that is all I will speculate about here.

    Top Programs:
    Academic/Weaker Autonomy: HSS, Mayo, Cleveland Clinic
    Academic/Mod Autonomy: Iowa, Rush, Jefferson
    Academic/Strong Autonomy: Pitt, Baylor, Case Western

    *Keep in mind this list is not exhaustive and variations could be argued for hours.
    **Check www.orthogate.com for more lengthy discussions on ortho residency reviews.
    ***There are many other factors to consider when forming your rank lists (i.e. research opportunities, location, fellowships, etc.), which will shift certain programs up or down your ROL. My list is merely speaking about academic programs and their operative experiences, which were the two most important factors for me.
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  7. pinarello

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    Question from a non-surgery person. I thought Univ. of Washington had the top surgery program in the country? At least that's what my surgery classmates tell me.
  8. southernIM

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    Are you sure they aren't talking about Seattle-Grace?
  9. johnnydrama

    johnnydrama I'm no Superman

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    My god, you've managed to coalesce the ridiculousness of ranking threads from every major specialty...

    The horror, the horror...
  10. link2swim06

    link2swim06 PGY-1

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    But unlike M2s, pre-meds tend to have tons of spare time...if I remember correctly.
  11. cowme

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    Ha, I remember thinking I was busy as an M2. Just wait, my friend
  12. Futuredoctors

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    Agreed.... It's great that you are looking into this stuff now, but I am not sure what the point of it all is.
  13. johnnydrama

    johnnydrama I'm no Superman

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    Choose a specialty and choose a location - only start ranking programs after you pin the first two variables down.
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    Lol, didn't know OP was pre-med. Too funny.
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    Why wouldn't MS-0s be interested in this? At every single interview & 2nd look they're given a fresh match list, so naturally they'll be interested in what constitutes a "top tier" match in each of the specialties (especially if interested in an academic career and/or prestigious wankery).
  16. bassvp

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    For these lists, about what %age of total residency spots in each field do these account for? Are these types of programs within reach of the above average applicant for the field, top 25%, etc?
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    Assume you need to be a top applicant (top 10%) to match at top tier programs.
  18. link2swim06

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    Ehh I run a small business on top of M2 year... mathematically I can't be more busy.
  19. namiie

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    Same here...

    Also, maybe +California Pacific Medical Center for ophthalmology and +Santa Clara Valley Medical Center (in San Jose; Stanford affiliate) for radiology as well?
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    Scv is nice but nowhere near a top program.
  21. Dave89

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    Aaaaargh! I really wanted to be in Denver for residency (and stay there), but from this list it seems hard to justify professionally.
  22. anewbeginning

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    generally, the best program in the country would be the one that would be the best match for you, that would allow you to blossom.
  23. johnnydrama

    johnnydrama I'm no Superman

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    Why do people even bother posting comments like this?
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  24. anewbeginning

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    although people like to rank things, for the most part, they are over-rated and more or less meaningless.
  25. johnnydrama

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    Yes, which is why I said to focus on specialty and then location.

    I didn't spout platitudes, which is all you did.
  26. mmmcdowe

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    Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone. :D
  27. johnnydrama

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    Telling someone to focus on location is valid,telling him that wherever he ends up, there he is is completely worthless, but point taken. :p
  28. mmmcdowe

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    I was just spouting platitudes.
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  29. turkeyjerky

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    What do you expect from someone who's username is 'anewbeginning'
  30. mimelim

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    Why are there no Vascular Surgery rankings??!?!?!?!? huh?
  31. Dave89

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    V Surg doesn't appear on most lists/charts.

    If you'd like to share your thoughts, that'd be great!
  32. dantt

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    Columbia & CPMC not even close....Not sure what the current rankings are but 2008 ophthalmology times easily googable...

    Wilmer/hopkins
    MEEI/harvard
    Duke
    BPEI/miami
    JSEI/ucla
    Wash U
    UCSF
    Emory
    USC
    UMich

    Other notables that are close to breaking into the top 10 include U Penn, OHSU, Utah, Baylor, UAB (maybe),
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  33. dantt

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    UTSW Medicine belongs in the very top tier next to MGH, Duke, UCSF, Hopkins
  34. johnnydrama

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    :lol:
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    Haha qft
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    lol
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    I see what you did there.
  39. chronicidal

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    Anesthesiology
    Hopkins, MGH, UCSF
    BWH, Stanford, Columbia, Duke
    And many others (Penn, Wash U, Michigan, U Washington, UAB, Mayo, Cornell, Wake Forest, UCLA, UVA, Wisconsin)

    Dermatology
    Penn, UCSF, NYU; Harvard, Stanford
    Yale, Columbia, Michigan
    Mayo, Miami, Emory

    Emergency Medicine
    Methodist/Indiana, Cincinnati, Denver, Hennepin, Carolinas, Pitt, Highland
    Chrisitiana, Vanderbilt, UCLA-Harbor, Cook County, Emory, Harvard/BWH
    ??? USC-LAC, King's County, Maricopa, UNM, U of A, U of M, UCSD

    ENT
    Hopkins
    MEEI, Pitt, U Washington, Iowa, Michigan
    Vanderbilt, Wash U, Mayo, UNC, Baylor

    General Surgery
    MGH, Hopkins
    Penn, Duke, BWH, Wash U, UTSW, UCSF, Michigan, U Washington
    Yale, UVA, Pitt, Columbia, UCLA, Stanford, Vanderbilt, Cornell

    Internal medicine
    Hopkins, MGH, BWH, UCSF
    U Penn, Columbia, Duke, U Michigan, Wash U, Stanford, U Washington
    And many others (UCLA, U Chicago, UTSW, BIDMC, Cornell, Mayo, Mt Sinai, Northwestern, Vanderbilt, Yale, Pitt)

    Neurology
    Partners (MGH/BWH), UCSF; Hopkins, Columbia, Penn
    Wash U, Mayo, UCLA, BIDMC, Stanford

    Neurosurgery
    MGH, Columbia, Hopkins, UCSF, Mayo, Barrow Neurological Institute
    BWH, Cleveland Clinic, U Washington, Wash U, Penn, UVA, Baylor, Pitt, USC
    Stanford, Emory, UCLA

    Ob/Gyn
    BWH, UCSF
    Pitt/Magee, Northwestern, UTSW/Parkland
    Wash U

    Ophthalmology
    Bascom/Miami, Wilmer/Hopkins, MEEI/Harvard
    Wills/Jefferson, Jules Stein/UCLA, Iowa
    Duke, Doheny/USC, Beckman/UCSF

    Orthopedic Surgery
    HSS, Mayo, Harvard
    Jefferson, Wash U, Iowa
    NYU-HJD, Pitt, Rush
    U Washington, Penn, UCSF
    Cleveland Clinic, Duke, UCLA

    Pathology
    BWH, Hopkins, UCSF, Stanford
    MGH, Penn, UVA, Duke, Wash U, U Chicago, U Washington
    Mayo

    Pediatrics
    CHOP, Hopkins, Boston Children's
    UC Denver/Children's Colorado, Baylor/Texas Children's, Cincinnati Children's
    Case Western/Rainbow Babies, UTSW, CHLA, Chicago Children's, U Washington/Seattle Children's, Pitt, DC Children's National
    And many others (Columbia, Cornell, Yale, Children's Mercy in Kansas, Arkansas, Vanderbilt, Northwestern, Utah, Emory, Indiana, Ohio State, UCSF, Stanford, U Michigan)

    Plastic Surgery - Integrated (very very rough)
    Penn, Pitt, NYU, Harvard, U Washington, UTSW, Hopkins/UMD, U Michigan
    Wash U, Baylor, Northwestern, UCSF
    Stanford

    PM&R
    RIC/Northwestern, TIRR/Baylor, Mayo, U Washington, Kessler/UMDNJ, Spaulding/Harvard

    Psychiatry
    MGH/Mclean, Columbia
    Cornell, UCSF, UCLA, Yale
    Wash U, Hopkins, Pitt, Stanford, NYU, Penn, Harvard Longwood, Cambridge Health Alliance

    Radiology
    MIR/Wash U, MGH, UCSF, Penn
    Hopkins, Duke, Michigan, BWH
    UCLA, U Washington, NYU, Stanford

    Radiation Oncology
    MD Anderson, Memorial Sloan-Kettering, Harvard
    Stanford, UCSF, U Chicago, U Michigan, Penn, Wash U, Yale, Duke, Wisconsin, Hopkins

    Urology
    Hopkins, Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, UCSF
    MGH, BWH, Vanderbilt, U Michigan
    Penn, Columbia, Baylor, Duke
    UCLA, Northwestern, Cornell, UTSW, Emory, Pitt, Wash U
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    I'd take Hopkins off the first line for peds. There's the big two, then everyone else, same for MEEI for ophtho.

    For rads, I'd group all the programs after the top 4 in one big group. Also the list for people considering IR would be drastically different than people focused on DR, so that would change things a lot.

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    Oh what would the list look like for IR in your opinion?
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    Would still like to see FM list.
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  43. drizzt3117

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    (in rough order) jhu, Penn, Stanford, northwestern, Ucla, bwh. Mir/ucsf/Mgh/duke/Michigan/Washington/nyu a bit lower.

    Miami and MCW would be higher than they are on the reg list.
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    Lahey Clinic (tufts) should definitely be on this list. Maybe 3rd line?
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    test
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    Is there a reason why so few Chicago/Illinois programs make the top list in any specialty???
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    Urology
    Hopkins, Mayo, Cleveland Clinic, UCSF
    MGH, BWH, Vanderbilt, U Michigan
    Penn, Columbia, Baylor, Duke
    UCLA, Northwestern, Cornell, UTSW, Emory, Pitt, Wash U

    The top 4 look good. After the top 4 there probably shouldn't be more tiers. You could make a strong argument that Pitt, UCLA, Emory, and WashU are better then most of the 2nd and 3rd line. Agree that lahey should also be up there.
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    Coastal bias?
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    For what it's worth, I found a conversation with an NIH leader last year helpful for learning the top residency programs in OB/GYN. In case it helps anyone, by reputation and regions:

    Ob/Gyn
    East Coast: BWH, Yale, Penn, Pitt/Magee, Brown
    Midwest: Wash U, Northwestern (+/-)
    South: UAB, Duke, Emory (+/-), UT Southwest/Parkland
    West: UCSF, Univ of Wash, Stanford
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