The NP will ALWAYS still be a nurse whose training also included bed making and colostomy bags while the PA does not have any of this servant type training occluding his/her medical train of thought.
Grrr, this kind of crap I hear from some PAs and MDs makes me not respect them very much. You call nurses SERVANTS??? Just who the hell do you think you are? I am a nurse and I am not a servant. I assess my patients every two hours during a shift and report the changes to the doctors that are on the case. I ask for the orders I think I need for the patient rather than wait for the doctor to give them to me. I have learned how to do many technical skills, some of which I use on a daily basis and some of which I rarely use in the ICU. My knowledge of how to attach a colostomy pouch is not going to occlude my thinking someday when I am a CRNA, no more than my knowledge of how to change the oil in my car or make a margarita will occlude my thinking.
The university where I graduated from (BS Biology) the BSN's took chem for nurses, micro for nurses, bio for nurses, stats for nurses, etc.. The bio majors could not take these classes b/c they were to brief, not enough concentration in the subject material.
Exactly how long would you make a nursing program to include enough hours to qualify as a minor in science? According to the catalog at the university I graduated from, it took 124 credit hours to earn a BS or BA, but 140 to earn a BSN. Do the math; that's at least an extra semester. Should some nursing classes be cut out so that nurses can have a minor in biology? And for your information, the only science class that I took that was "for nursing" was chemistry, which covered chem, biochem, and organic briefly in one semester. All the rest of the classes I took (biology, anatomy, physiology, and microbiology) were full of pre-med majors along with nursing and other science majors. One of the nursing schools I was looking into before I ended up where I did required all regular science classes; no "nursing" science classes were allowed.
Before I go back to school to obtain my MSN in anesthesia, I am going to retake chemistry and also take biochemistry, organic chemistry and physics. I think redoing these classes will do me some good in learning about anesthesia, as I agree that a higher level of scientific knowledge is necessary for any advanced nursing degree. However, I do not necessarily think they are appropriate for bedside nursing. I'm sure if you looked into it, the nursing students who took the science classes made for nurses could have also earned credit if they had taken the regular science classes. Most nursing students, I'm sure, chose the easier route. A BSN is not an easy degree to obtain, no matter how stupid some MDs and PAs may think nurses are.
Who do you want putting in a chest tube on you; someone who has seen a human pleural cavity or that of a cat's?
No offense, but I want a DOCTOR putting a chest tube in me, thank you very much.