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I know there are threads about "dentistry issues" already but I wanted to share a decent article I found while doing some prep for my interview:

http://www.dentalaegis.com/id/2010/10/a-conversation-with-stanley-bergman

It's an interview with the CEO of Henry Schein (dental/medical equipment company) so it has a lot of business focus in it, but I thought it touched on a lot of good things like access to care. It's from 2010 so not exactly up to date, but still relevant.

If anybody else has seen any good articles lately, please share! I'd love to see them! Thanks guys!

EDIT: This is also an interesting link! http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dollars-and-dentists/

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I know there are threads about "dentistry issues" already but I wanted to share a decent article I found while doing some prep for my interview:

http://www.dentalaegis.com/id/2010/10/a-conversation-with-stanley-bergman

It's an interview with the CEO of Henry Schein (dental/medical equipment company) so it has a lot of business focus in it, but I thought it touched on a lot of good things like access to care. It's from 2010 so not exactly up to date, but still relevant.

If anybody else has seen any good articles lately, please share! I'd love to see them! Thanks guys!
Nice try bud. We ain't helpin' you w/ur intrvwz.;)
 
Nice try bud. We ain't helpin' you w/the intrvwz.;)

I'm asking for articles, not for people to write out some kind of essay. And I actually wanted to share the one above because I thought it was one of the first good ones I've found. Please try not to be bitter. I thought this was a place where people helped each other out.
 
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I'm asking for articles, not for people to write out some kind of essay. And I actually wanted to share the one above because I thought it was one of the first good ones I've found. Please try not to be bitter. I thought this was a place where people helped each other out.
;)
 
I'm asking for articles, not for people to write out some kind of essay. And I actually wanted to share the one above because I thought it was one of the first good ones I've found. Please try not to be bitter. I thought this was a place where people helped each other out.

I think he was joking...
 
Bring some Beano® too!;)
 
Back to the point of this thread, the following ppt was of interest to me.
It got me thinking more about how practices are run in general and then of course the considerations that those of us who want to serve the underserved need to take into account.

It's called "The Good Practice: Treating Underserved Dental Patients While Staying Afloat" and was prepared by the California Healthcare Foundation. It's from 2008.

http://www.chcf.org/~/media/MEDIA LIBRARY Files/PDF/T/PDF TheGoodPractice.pdf
 
Back to the point of this thread:thumbup:, the following ppt was of interest to me.
It got me thinking more about how practices are run in general and then of course the considerations that those of us who want to serve the underserved need to take into account.

It's called "The Good Practice: Treating Underserved Dental Patients:thumbup: While Staying Afloat" and was prepared by the California Healthcare Foundation. It's from 2008.

http://www.chcf.org/~/media/MEDIA LIBRARY Files/PDF/T/PDF TheGoodPractice.pdf
Access. Innovation. Thank me later.:)

I think he was joking...
Uhh PC, mind you?
 
Uhh PC, mind you?

Well hey there Ms. Sassafras!

Although I am also female, and I understand why you're annoyed, I personally don't like to use they generically because it's not grammatically correct to use a plural pronoun with a singular antecedent. "They" will probably eventually become commonly used as a singular generic pronoun, but it irks me and it's just awkward all around because English doesn't have a word to fit the bill.

To me, using the term "he or she" seems really awkward to use on an internet forum. I usually try to use the correct term if I know the person's gender or alternate for different examples if I can.
 
Well hey there Ms. Sassafras!

Although I am also female, and I understand why you're annoyed, I personally don't like to use they generically because it's not grammatically correct to use a plural pronoun with a singular antecedent. "They" will probably eventually become commonly used as a singular generic pronoun, but it irks me and it's just awkward all around because English doesn't have a word to fit the bill.

To me, using the term "he or she" seems really awkward to use on an internet forum. I usually try to use the correct term if I know the person's gender or alternate for different examples if I can.
Yeah... about that... I don't endorse an indolent/ignorant culture/society either. Read a few comments on y-tube and you'll be asking yourself where has this world come to.:scared:

-It's the little things that make life big.:thumbup:

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Seriously y'all it's only two words: Access. Innovation.:idea:
 
Back to the point of this thread, the following ppt was of interest to me.
It got me thinking more about how practices are run in general and then of course the considerations that those of us who want to serve the underserved need to take into account.

It's called "The Good Practice: Treating Underserved Dental Patients While Staying Afloat" and was prepared by the California Healthcare Foundation. It's from 2008.

http://www.chcf.org/~/media/MEDIA LIBRARY Files/PDF/T/PDF TheGoodPractice.pdf

Thank you SO much!! That was great, and honestly what I needed to see right now because my goal has been to have a diverse patient base, including low-income/Medicaid patients, but have heard how it's a nightmare financially. This was really encouraging to hear that there are concrete, structured solutions to that predicament. I will certainly hold on to this for the future :)

Nice try bud. We ain't helpin' you w/ur intrvwz.;)

I think he was joking...

I'm sorry for retaliating if you were joking but it seemed like you were trying to shoot down a legitimate question. Anyway, I don't want to turn this into an argument so I apologize.
 
Thank you SO much!! That was great, and honestly what I needed to see right now because my goal has been to have a diverse patient base, including low-income/Medicaid patients, but have heard how it's a nightmare financially. This was really encouraging to hear that there are concrete, structured solutions to that predicament. I will certainly hold on to this for the future :)





I'm sorry for retaliating if you were joking but it seemed like you were trying to shoot down a legitimate question. For what?:confused: No... No... No... There's no need for that. Anyway, I don't want to turn this into an argument so I apologize. What argument?:confused:
I'm not that easy.:rolleyes:;)

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Enlighten us yawlz.:idea:
 
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Yeah... about that... I don't endorse an indolent/ignorant culture/society either. Read a few comments on y-tube and you'll be asking yourself where has this world come to.:scared:

-It's the little things that make life big.:thumbup:

Mmmkay. The world has a ton of things that could offend you, and if you're going to get upset at all of them, then you'll just be really upset at the end of each day. I don't think it's a big deal to be called "he" on an online forum (there are much bigger things going on in the world), but I'm sorry because it seems that I very deeply offended you.

You're actually my little sister's age if you graduated in 2013. I remember being at that point in my life. It's interesting how things change over time.

Thank you SO much!! That was great, and honestly what I needed to see right now because my goal has been to have a diverse patient base, including low-income/Medicaid patients, but have heard how it's a nightmare financially. This was really encouraging to hear that there are concrete, structured solutions to that predicament. I will certainly hold on to this for the future :)

Glad to hear you liked it! :thumbup:
 
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Thank you, Baba Yaga! Another great article! I really appreciate it!! It actually helped me find the film I'm linking to below after I did some clicking around while searching for some of the specific things mentioned in the article.


For anyone who is interested, this is actually an hour long film by PBS's Frontline and the homepage has A TON of links to dental issues:
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dollars-and-dentists/
 
I'm not that easy.:rolleyes:;)

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Enlighten us yawlz.:idea:

i know what you're talking about. to me it sounds like a helluva better solution than cranking out pseudo-doctorate full-technician mid-levels. i'm all about educating the populace on how to take care of their teeth and/or increasing financial incentives to get the highest trained workers out there.

this post needs more hyphens.
 
:)

QFT:
i know what you're talking about. to me it sounds like a helluva better solution than cranking out pseudo-doctorate full-technician mid-levels. i'm all about educating the populace on how to take care of their teeth and/or increasing financial incentives to get the highest trained workers out there.

this post needs more hyphens.

My 2 cents:
i know what you're talking about. to me it sounds like a helluva better solution than cranking out pseudo-doctorate full-technician mid-levels. :thumbup: i'm all about educating the populace on how to take care of their teeth and/or increasing financial incentives to get the highest trained workers out there. My passion for dentistry 'erupted' because of dentists like the ones you described.:) I wish there were more of these types of dentists though.:( I've seen my fair share of dentists and specialists, and I'm quite disappointed that not much of them are like these dentists you described.:(

this post needs more hyphens.
Did y'all know that back in the 90's dentists made less money($) than engineers?:eek:
Also, I'm not entirely sure though, but a dentist told me that total tuition, not COA, at USC SOD back in the early 90's was around 80k (USD) total.

I blame U.S.News/WSJ + "people.":rolleyes:
 
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The largest issue in dentistry today, in my opinion, is the ever increasing cost of education. We are at a point where the cost of dental education is astronomical for most students. This puts tremendous pressure on said students to pay off their debts. This means more students are flocking to corporate mills that offer higher salaries. The corporate model is bad for dentistry in my mind (that's a separate discussion). More dentists are also recommending unnecessary treatment to land more money in their pocket to help pay off the tremendous debt levels. The highly expensive education is ending up compromising the patient care. It's becoming less about patient care and more about "what can I do to pay off my debt".

Just my 2 cents.
 
I liked that article about access to care. Cost of education is also a good one, and being addressed by the ADA and ASDA.
 
The largest issue in dentistry today, in my opinion, is the ever increasing cost of education. We are at a point where the cost of dental education is astronomical for most students. This puts tremendous pressure on said students to pay off their debts. This means more students are flocking to corporate mills that offer higher salaries. The corporate model is bad for dentistry in my mind (that's a separate discussion). More dentists are also recommending unnecessary treatment to land more money in their pocket to help pay off the tremendous debt levels. The highly expensive education is ending up compromising the patient care. It's becoming less about patient care and more about "what can I do to pay off my debt".

Just my 2 cents.
My 2 cents: I partially agree. The astronomical COA is ludicrous. What's even more worse is that there are professional dental seminars out there that encourages this ludicrous behavior. TBH, I believe the system needs a 'restoration' both horizontally and vertically or else I fear that day may come. Once habituated to that "all-I-care-about-is-money-to-pay-off-that ludicrous-loan," it's darn difficult to return that 'favor' your childhood dentist inspired you to become.

Once again, my 2 cents.
 
:)

QFT:


My 2 cents:
Did y'all know that back in the 90's dentists made less money($) than engineers?:eek:

I blame U.S.News/WSJ + "people.":rolleyes:

the way you reply within a quote makes it difficult to visually follow the flow of the conversation.

furthermore, i can't tell if you're dismayed by what i said, or support it: your passion erupted for some type of 'x'. you wish there were more 'x'. you've seen your fair share (ie an adequate amount for you) yet you're dissapointed?
 

Thanks for all the articles! They are on my reading list for tomorrow :)

Here's one I found that stemmed from the second link I posted. It certainly isn't as "academic" as the ones above but it's a nice little interview about midlevel providers and again, access to care, that brings up some points I hadn't thought about before:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...the-ada-is-wrong-about-access-to-dental-care/
 
Thanks for all the articles! They are on my reading list for tomorrow :) Standard of care is really personal to me.

Here's one I found that stemmed from the second link I posted. It certainly isn't as "academic" as the ones above but it's a nice little interview about midlevel providers and again, access to care, that brings up some points I hadn't thought about before:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/front...the-ada-is-wrong-about-access-to-dental-care/
Better than mainstream.:rolleyes:
 
Better than mainstream.:rolleyes:

If you don't mind me asking, what makes standard of care personal for you? I was only able to read the abstracts of most of the links you added. College was great for having access to all of those databases but unfortunately I'm not there anymore ;)

Here's a GREAT article on standard of care. In fact, it cites one of the articles linked to above.

http://www.dentalaegis.com/id/2008/10/standard-of-care-in-dentistry

Here's a quick article with Medicaid coverage broken down by state:

http://nashp.org/sites/default/files/Adult Dental Monitor.pdf?q=files/Adult Dental Monitor.pdf
 
The largest issue in dentistry today, in my opinion, is the ever increasing cost of education. We are at a point where the cost of dental education is astronomical for most students. This puts tremendous pressure on said students to pay off their debts. This means more students are flocking to corporate mills that offer higher salaries. The corporate model is bad for dentistry in my mind (that's a separate discussion). More dentists are also recommending unnecessary treatment to land more money in their pocket to help pay off the tremendous debt levels. The highly expensive education is ending up compromising the patient care. It's becoming less about patient care and more about "what can I do to pay off my debt".

Just my 2 cents.

I agree with this to a T.
 
Childhood nutrition and nutrition in general. More and more kids are getting cavities in their baby teeth! The food industry is always pushing to sneak in marketing for unhealthy products wherever they can. People in their 20's are getting dentures because they've been guzzling soda all their lives. Dentistry shouldn't have to be cleaning up the mess when it gets really bad - dentists should be more involved in food education and activism.

http://www.commercialfreechildhood.org/
http://www.stopcorporateabuse.org/
 
Childhood nutrition and nutrition in general. More and more kids are getting cavities in their baby teeth! The food industry is always pushing to sneak in marketing for unhealthy products wherever they can. People in their 20's are getting dentures because they've been guzzling soda all their lives. Dentistry shouldn't have to be cleaning up the mess when it gets really bad - dentists should be more involved in food education and activism.

http://www.commercialfreechildhood.org/
http://www.stopcorporateabuse.org/

Thanks for the links! This one made me sad :(
http://www.commercialfreechildhood.org/action/save-tooth-fairy

But in all seriousness, that's so sad that people needing extreme intervention are getting younger and younger. I saw a 28 year old get an all-on-4 because he practically smoked and drank soda since coming out of the womb.
 
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