don't go to med school, we're being replaced!!!

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ROBODOC

well, we won't be replaced for a while, but...keep in mind that darth vader's robodocs did a pretty damn good job with what they had.

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no, theres going to be an outcry about how patients need that warm touch and pat on the back from a real human, and how that is just as important as everything else. i support the development of robodocs--economics dictates that docs can then devote resources elsewhere and increase overall production.
 
Shredder said:
no, theres going to be an outcry about how patients need that warm touch and pat on the back from a real human, and how that is just as important as everything else. i support the development of robodocs--economics dictates that docs can then devote resources elsewhere and increase overall production.

I think thats the job description of a nurse!!! :laugh: :laugh:
 
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ROBODOC

well, we won't be replaced for a while, but...keep in mind that darth vader's robodocs did a pretty damn good job with what they had.

Please tell me that's a CNN spoof page, where they make satirical stories and such. What if you're robodoc saves your life, do you give it a hug? Boy that feels cold and eerie.
 
"Gradually, in 2020, I would expect that you would be able to get a direct diagnosis from an AI (artificial intelligence) system which will go straight through to an AI-based chemist which will check that the drugs are compatible and you will get your prescription -- probably with minimal human intervention."

And again you can see that the US is far advanced over the UK in that regard. We have already realized this concept, its called ED :laugh:
 
nicholonious said:
Please tell me that's a CNN spoof page, where they make satirical stories and such. What if you're robodoc saves your life, do you give it a hug? Boy that feels cold and eerie.

No, it's real I swear. I pulled it right off CNN's webpage this morning.
 
aragonh said:
I think thats the job description of a nurse!!! :laugh: :laugh:
i agree but that is not the impression that a lot of people have, they want to be the docs who give a shoulder to cry on
 
Well with that Robodoc thing, at least there has to be an actual doctor controlling it. So it's not replacing anybody really, just allowing people to consult on cases far away from their actual location. The other stuff, like the robots doing surgeries, is a different story.

But I was impressed by that one guy's job title: futurologist. How do you become one of those? :laugh: :thumbup:
 
This ROBODOC thing is such a farce. What a ridiculous notion. Doctors need to see their patients in person, period. Sheesh, what was the design concept here? :thumbdown:
 
People are unnecessary. That's why you major in engineering.
 
Patients actually like the robots, at least from the limited trial feedback (it was first tested at JHU). They get doctor "visits" quicker than waiting for the doctor to be scheduled onsite.

Detroit Medical Center recently launched a fleet of 10 robots, the first large-scale implementation: Robo-docs check in at Detroit Medical Center
 
When are we going to see ROBOLAWYERS? They'll just be as cold and heartless as the ones practicing today. jp. ;)
 
Why is everyone getting upset over a remote contol teleconferencing unit that some marketing whiz decided to call a "robot"? No one would be astounded if each bedside had a monitor and microphone, but somehow one monitor and one microphone that everyone shares is big news because it has wheels and an 802.11 card attached.
 
Actually, I saw something similar to this on the news recently. The whole idea of it is to have someone being able to monitor the patient at all times and be able to get the opinion of a specialist right away, not to replace doctors. As for the doctor not being there physically, doctors do make calls to other specialists about certain cases, and those doctors will give an opinion without seeing the patient.
 
It is true that docs are slowly being replaced to a certain degree but not by robots.

Nurses: getting more and more responsibilities

Nurse Anesthetist: although they are required to work under the supervision of a doctor, many hospitals are "supervising them under the chief of staff or whatever and they are replacing Anesthesiologists (recently there has been some cut backs on what these nurses can do, but it is still frightening)

Naturopathic Doctors: (ND or NMD)These guys can actually prescribe medications, order labs, and do minor surgery in 13 states (and it is growing). They often call themselves "naturopathic medical doctor" and say they have gone to "medical school".

Physician Assistants: Slowly they are gaining turf, they still have to have a supervising physician but they are taking the responsibilities that only docs could do 10+ years ago.

Psychologists: Currently they have gained prescribing privileges in 2 States. They are gaining more turf and are taking over privileges only docs had a few years ago.

Chiropractors: They are considered primary care physicians in many states and can bill insurance, diagnose, and they are fighting for prescription rights.

Optometry: They have prescribing rights and are fighting to do surgery in many states, and have taken many of the ophthalmologists patients. The public often has no clue that an Optometrist is not a medical doctor, but a doctor of optometry.

Podiatry: Can prescribe and do surgery, etc. Many foot surgeries that were mostly done by orthopods are now common place podiatry procedures.

Doctors in other countries: right now there is big talk in radiology that many of their practices (reading MRI, etc) are eventually going to be farmed over the internet to doctors on call in India. These docs in India will do this for a lot less money.

I could go on but I think that you get the point. I would not be so worried about robots, however I guess some of this technology could cut out some of a doctors responsibilities, but the reality is other fields are replacing doctors. I think there will always be a need for MD/DO physicians but it is frightening how much turf has already been taken. I am not talking down on these other professions and I am not trying to flame them at all. I am just talking about the reality of doctors turf / responsibilities slipping away.
 
EL CAPeeeTAN said:
It is true that docs are slowly being replaced to a certain degree but not by robots.

Nurses: getting more and more responsibilities

Nurse Anesthetist: although they are required to work under the supervision of a doctor, many hospitals are "supervising them under the chief of staff or whatever and they are replacing Anesthesiologists (recently there has been some cut backs on what these nurses can do, but it is still frightening)

Naturopathic Doctors: (ND or NMD)These guys can actually prescribe medications, order labs, and do minor surgery in 13 states (and it is growing). They often call themselves "naturopathic medical doctor" and say they have gone to "medical school".

Physician Assistants: Slowly they are gaining turf, they still have to have a supervising physician but they are taking the responsibilities that only docs could do 10+ years ago.

Psychologists: Currently they have gained prescribing privileges in 2 States. They are gaining more turf and are taking over privileges only docs had a few years ago.

Chiropractors: They are considered primary care physicians in many states and can bill insurance, diagnose, and they are fighting for prescription rights.

Optometry: They have prescribing rights and are fighting to do surgery in many states, and have taken many of the ophthalmologists patients. The public often has no clue that an Optometrist is not a medical doctor, but a doctor of optometry.

Podiatry: Can prescribe and do surgery, etc. Many foot surgeries that were mostly done by orthopods are now common place podiatry procedures.

Doctors in other countries: right now there is big talk in radiology that many of their practices (reading MRI, etc) are eventually going to be farmed over the internet to doctors on call in India. These docs in India will do this for a lot less money.

I could go on but I think that you get the point. I would not be so worried about robots, however I guess some of this technology could cut out some of a doctors responsibilities, but the reality is other fields are replacing doctors. I think there will always be a need for MD/DO physicians but it is frightening how much turf has already been taken. I am not talking down on these other professions and I am not trying to flame them at all. I am just talking about the reality of doctors turf / responsibilities slipping away.

I'm going to go kill myself...
10 years of schooling when i could have been a murse and still 'helped people'???
 
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