I got accepted to DO school, but I'm also a non-traditional applicant with some lingering questions

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Here is my take for your questions:
1) I'm a nontraditional applicant, and it's been over a year since I studied for the MCAT. I feel like I may have forgotten some stuff, especially from Biology, after I stopped studying for it. But that's the problem. Should I brush up on my biology and other MCAT materials in order to better prepare for med school when it starts? Or is this a bad idea? Bad idea, studying or trying to get ahead is not but the content you learned prior to med school is fairly useless to what and how you will be taught in medical school. MCAT material is useless, if you do anything try and learn some micro. I suggest getting a book and using sketchy micro. What is taught in med school replicates what you will learn from Sketchy. I hate programs that are like Sketchy, but the designers were brilliant and offer insight that no one else either knows or seems to teach (at least at my school) so I would say if you started learning that then it will help you forever in school and boards later on. Never can hurt you to know your micro.

2) Any other way I can mentally and physically prepare myself for medical school. Any tips. Btw, I do use Anki. In fact, I've used it to teach myself Japanese, and I'm really liking it. Sadly, I discovered it very late when studying for the MCAT, and who knows how well I would've done if I had discovered it earlier. Anki....some use it and thats cool, I doubt you will have the time to devote to it in medschool. Make 100% you learn how and why things happen rather than by straight memorization. Learn the process, steps, and physio behind everything as much as you can and that will propel you to success. Memorization through things like Anki become studying for the test no matter how you swing it even with the way Anki teaches you or makes you recall things. I like the idea of Anki overall for things like Chapman and sympathetic points that are straight memorization, beyond that you need to really learn why and if you are not taught why, you need to make a point of teaching yourself. There is no other way to approach medicine, in my opinion of course.

3) I'm wondering. How exactly do students who are active in clubs find time to be in clubs and study when they're in med school? It doesn't have to just apply to clubs, also research, or community service, etc. Useless, clubs and programs are extracurricular. When you are applying to residency they care about GPA, and Board scores, so should you. Research is praised and thrown about like its super necessary. I recently listened to a residency interview panel and they said they care about research if you care about it.....basically if you cleaned lab glass and then were put on a paper for it, it does not help your application. That being said, everyone that applied for their 3 particular programs had all done some research. So basically try and do something you are passionate about, worry less about clubs, and mainly focus on learning medicine. Most schools won't allow you to join clubs until you are through block 1 anyway as you will soon learn that medical school is going to break you, then build you back up into something better, and if not better at least a doctor.

4) Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly does merger between AOA and ACGME mean? From what I know, DOs and MDs already had same training, and for the most hiring process in hospital prior to the merger. What exactly does this new merger bring that wasn't exactly around prior to it? DOs were doing the same residency but were rapidly about to be unable to do fellowship training post residency. ACGME had a deadline and basically residencies that were not ACGME accredited for example AOA residencies were going to be considered inapplicable to ACGME fellowships (ACGME is over most fellowship training in allopathic programs) and so they needed to merge. What that means for you is not all that much, a fair amount of osteopathic residency programs will either meet acgme standards of accreditation or they will shut down around the year 2020. There are a lot of rules and specifics to protect students, so other than a conversation point, something to fuss about, or first years to pester the school Deans about on newly accepted students day, it means very little to you at this point. It could mean a whole lot so stay informed and involved when you can, but overall its just change, and one that had to happen and will most likely benefit you in the future. Its just harmful to specialties like Neurosurgery, Derm, things of that nature because ACGME requirements usually make having programs at smaller institutions/hospitals very difficult. It drives academic medicine to large centers whereas previously a lot of AOA accredited residencies were at smaller sites, and AOA accreditation was easier to get than ACGME accreditation. ACGME makes it almost impossible for small hospitals to get accredited for residencies because they don't have all the academics available like multiple subspecialty teaching, multiple residency programs, attending physicians that are doing clinical research etc... It also requires graduates of ACGME programs to see a number of certain cases like x amt of meningitis where x residency site in the middle of nowhere may get 1 every 5 years and the big center will get 5 every other week etc... It will all be worked out by the time you are applying, or it will be close to being worked out.

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It depends on you really. Are you trying to get an "A" or are you just trying to pass the class? Hit the average? It depends on your goals that will govern how much time you spend studying. Also, some sections you're gonna have a tougher time than others based on your major and background and some topics will come easier to you.

Also, it depends on how you study. If you attend class and listen attentively the entire time (which I find extremely difficult to do, hence the reason I rarely attend class), I think that 3-5 hours/day is plenty of time if you are ACTUALLY studying those hours. However, if you don't attend class, then you're gonna need to watch the lectures (which could take 2-3 hours of you going through taking notes and trying to absorb as much as possible on the first pass. Then, after that, you would go through and try to "get it down" more. Again, this may seem like a lot to some, but this is usually what I do and it works for me with my goals. My schedule is usually study 3-4 hours the previous day material in the AM while class is going on, then watch the days lectures from 4-6pmish, then from 6-10pm, study that new material I just watched. So I guess if you add that up, I am in the 8 hours a day range (which I admit I probably only study about 80% of the time between Facebook and SDN and my wife).

However, on weekends before exams it is completely different ballgame. Most of the time my schedule is 7am-9pm or so on weekends before exams taking breaks every 2 hours or so. For our last reproductive exam we studied from 6am-7pm Saturday and Sunday. But like I said, it depends on your goals. If you want to just pass, you don't need to be putting in this much time.

I want to do as well as possible. I wanna ace every exam. I managed to get A's in college, and I wanna continue that streak, even if the classes are just pass/fail and it's gonna be harder. I'm also the kind of person who wouldn't want to miss classes. How long are the classes? I noticed you said 4-6 pmish you listen to lectures. So that's, what, two or three lectures? How many classes do you have each day?

Also, wow, lectures being recorded? Pardon my ignorance, but what are the downsides to just simply not coming to class and just watching all the lectures online within the comfort of your home and only showing up during exams?

What about other guys? Is 3-5 hours/day on average on non-exam weeks typical study length for you guys, as well? What about those of you who did really well in your classes? How did your day to day schedule look like on average?
 
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I want to do as well as possible. I wanna ace every exam. I managed to get A's in college, and I wanna continue that streak, even if the classes are just pass/fail and it's gonna be harder. I'm also the kind of person who wouldn't want to miss classes. How long are the classes? I noticed you said 4-6 pmish you listen to lectures. So that's, what, two or three lectures? How many classes do you have each day?

Also, wow, lectures being recorded? Pardon my ignorance, but what are the downsides to just simply not coming to class and just watching all the lectures online within the comfort of your home and only showing up during exams?

What about other guys? Is 3-5 hours/day on average on non-exam weeks typical study length for you guys, as well? What about those of you who did really well in your classes? How did your day to day schedule look like on average?

Ah, yes, I'm recognizing the syndrome well --- highly motivated overachiever who's used to being at the head of the pack --- and I was that way before I walked in the door ---

A few points --

1) you are now in a class filled with other Alphas who are just as aggressive and anal retentive as you are, if not moreso, about their grades although most will not show it. The F*(k-F*&k mind games start Day 1 -- with classmates saying they only studied an hour or 2 before a quiz, went and watched a basketball game last night, out drinking with friends when in fact, those little trolls with no social skills, were at home hitting the books ---

Get used to the fact that you are now competing with your intellectual PEERS --- and those people are motivated enough to border on insane -- they believe the lie that choice residencies go to those who make A's and are neurotic -- not so, but they believe it and study accordingly.

2) Yes, lectures are recorded -- if you're lucky, video recorded, otherwise, it's a crapshoot as to whether or not you can follow along with the powerpoints -- Go to class? Depends on your self discipline -- if you study more efficiently by yourself with no distractions -- good on you -- if you tend to surf FB and porn sites -- maybe not so much.

3) In general, with good pre-med prep, you can get away with going to class and studying 3-5 hours a day during the week to make sure you've got the days material down and then 4-6 hours per day on the non-test weekends. On test weekends, all bets are off. Now, recognize that this includes going over the next days material to familiarize yourself with what you're going to be hit with and then going back to M-whatever day of the week you're at to keep it fresh.

My advice -- relax -- it doesn't matter what it takes everyone else to do well and you will not be able to judge your requirements based on what "they" do -- trust me on this, I was just like you when I started and spent so much damn time asking everyone how much/how/what they were studying that it negatively impacted my grades -- it wasn't until I decided to stop that trash and learn this for myself and my future that my grades picked up ---

Settle down or you'll psych yourself out and risk flunking out -- I am being serious on this one.
 
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Amidst all these med school concerns, though, I was wondering, is AlteredScale's advice true for most of you, or is it just him? I understood the importance of time management, but I'm surprised when he said during weeks when you're not preparing for imminent exams, you're studying 3-5 hours on average assuming it's solely studying and not using Facebook etc. nor playing catch up with the materials you've missed. It's only during the week of exams when you're shifting it up to 8-12 hours. I thought it was much worse, where you're studying all day and all night right from day 1 as if you were about to have an exam the next day.

Recall the difference between studying for college and studying for medical school ---

In college, you'll be asked to have a cursory knowledge of the library -- in general you should know how many floors, what's on each floor in terms of materials, where the majority of the study carrolls are located, conference rooms, computers, etc. and where the various personnel sit.

In medical school --- You'll need to know that on the third floor, SW corner in the study carroll closest to the window, the leg that is northernmost is attached by 3 screws which are all drawn from the same lot number, the 4th screw is from the next lot number which is unusual in that the machine was run by 1 of the 2 surviving crewmen of the first landing craft in the first wave of D-Day who went into working at a screw manufacturing facility in Hamtramck after the war -- the facility used ore mined from Zimbabwe and the ore used in this particular screw was taken out of the mine by Mungo who was wearing homemade straw sandals at the time....

Get the picture?
 
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Wow. Thanks for the reality check. And yes, I got the picture. It's just I want to make sure I don't overstress myself. I feel like I wanna at least prepare and brace myself for med school instead of just enrolling in blindly and then being attacked and overwhelmed out of nowhere. I just want to make sure I'll be able to adapt, you know?

And I wasn't trying to be "alpha" in relation to others. I just wanted to do as well as possible because I don't want to have a possibility of falling behind. I feel like hearing some of these stories feel like horror stories of med school and I don't want to feel "unprepared." I want to make sure that I get through med school just fine.
 
I was to lazy to read a majority of the other comments but one thing I do want to add on is learning how to be time efficient aka learn when you are most productive and least . For example I read my course pack in the morning after working out till mid day then watch lectures because I don't get anything from attending them live .


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I want to do as well as possible. I wanna ace every exam. I managed to get A's in college, and I wanna continue that streak, even if the classes are just pass/fail and it's gonna be harder. I'm also the kind of person who wouldn't want to miss classes. How long are the classes? I noticed you said 4-6 pmish you listen to lectures. So that's, what, two or three lectures? How many classes do you have each day?

Also, wow, lectures being recorded? Pardon my ignorance, but what are the downsides to just simply not coming to class and just watching all the lectures online within the comfort of your home and only showing up during exams?

What about other guys? Is 3-5 hours/day on average on non-exam weeks typical study length for you guys, as well? What about those of you who did really well in your classes? How did your day to day schedule look like on average?

I was the kind of person in college that didn't want to miss classes either. However, the reason in medical school for me missing class isn't because I am at home catching up on Netflix and petting my dog. The reason I don't go to class is because I can use those four hours where I would be sitting in class and watch those lectures at 1.6-2x the speed, pause to take notes so I don't miss anything, rewind to go over things I don't understand, etc. When I am sitting in class, I not only find it hard to give 100% attention the entire time, but it's hard to write everything important that is said without missing things. Therefore, I choose to grab a mug of coffee, sit at my desk in my pajamas, and watch the lectures over a hot pile of pancakes (not really, but you get the idea). Plus, when I go to class, I waste time driving to school (1 hour), in between lectures, talking with friends, playing ping pong, etc. I am just more efficient at home so I take the morning (6am-noonish) to study, then go to school for the afternoon labs, then go back home and study that night. You also save money because you don't have to buy food or drinks at school (I guess you can also bring lunch too, but you get the idea).

The downside of not going to lecture is if the lecture for some reason does not get recorded due to technical problems, you're SOL. However, this RARELY happens so it really isn't a problem. I think that happened like one time this year to us. Also, at our school there is a policy where if half the class doesn't show, they won't post the lectures. Again, this hasn't happened yet. You will have to go to school for labs, so even if you went to school in the morning because you feel you would study better at school, you don't have to physically go to class. Just find a study room and go to town. You will find out during those first 1-2 courses what works for you and stick with that.
 
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Wow. Thanks for the reality check. And yes, I got the picture. It's just I want to make sure I don't overstress myself. I feel like I wanna at least prepare and brace myself for med school instead of just enrolling in blindly and then being attacked and overwhelmed out of nowhere. I just want to make sure I'll be able to adapt, you know?

And I wasn't trying to be "alpha" in relation to others. I just wanted to do as well as possible because I don't want to have a possibility of falling behind. I feel like hearing some of these stories feel like horror stories of med school and I don't want to feel "unprepared." I want to make sure that I get through med school just fine.

You will do just fine. Everyone feels as if they're falling behind, everyone has that gut wrenching fear that because they didn't memorize the table of cytokines they're going to fail, everyone feels that if they don't understand the nuances of SSRIs that it will be THE ONE thing that causes them to flunk out --- every new experience is met with trepidation at not being good enough, smart enough, driven enough, whatever ---

But, if I may point it out -- if you successfully completed your pre-med prereqs and MCAT, you've prepared enough. Actually more than enough -- Do you know what you need for medically relevant chemistry? A cursory understanding of Acid-Base and know the relationships between the Henderson-Hasselbach (or Anderson-Hasselhoff if you're a Baywatch fan) equation. For biochem -- grab Lippincott's review, it's overkill for what you need to know -- for Pharm, grab Lippincott's review -- again, overkill.

Remember that you're building a base which will be added to as you go along --- in my MS1/MS2 years, no mention was made of the 2 different classes of CCBs (calcium channel blockers) -- it wasn't until we escaped out into the clinical world that we found out about those -- why? Because it wasn't relevant to us at the time. You build a little more each pass through the material and you WILL go through this ad nauseaum, believe me. it's not a one shot and it's done type of deal with you being expected to remember every nuanced detail the first time through ---

This is not so much about you locking everything into your brain housing group but knowing where to go look things up --- Do you actually think I remember all the variants of medications used to treat a simple UTI? Oh, hell no --- I've got my favorite, my "patient allergic to your favorite", my "patient is a geriatric" favorite, and my "can't use any of my other options" favorite -- and I can tell you that I look up the treatment schedule for some of those on a daily basis -- but I know where to look and get to the info fast.

You are overstressing yourself by worrying about being prepared -- you likely have a mild case of "I don't deserve to be here" syndrome -- very common -- just wait until you get into the classroom with people from power universities that hide their trepidation better than you -- that's when you will start the mind games with yourself if you keep this up.

Look, if you can walk and chew gum on a relatively level surface into a mild headwind, you can do medical school -- Remember also that a lot of people blow things out of proportion when relating things to people to make what they're doing seem so much harder so that they look better in the other person's eyes -- it's like upperclassmen stating that OrgoChem is so hard, worst class of my life, I'm studying every waking hour and barely passing, whatever -- you get there and go, this really isn't bad, it's hard but you just have to pay attention, apply some effort and quit grabassing around when you're supposed to be studying -- same-same.

PM if you need to ---

If you really want to feed the itch to study -- I think about all I would do is grab First Aid for Step 1 and start going through that at a really relaxed pace -- don't try to memorize/understand it now -- just go through it -- that way you'll have some idea of what's really important --- but no more than that or you WILL burn out early.

Edited to add -- and just to really send you over the edge -- I currently use about 25% of what I learned in medical school and I'm an FM doc who takes care of patients from the womb to the tomb in all areas --- broad spectrum, in other words --- it laid a foundation but I really don't care about how hemoglobin is formed, nor do I really care about the rate limiting step of carbohydrate metabolism anymore....
 
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I'd say 80% of the minutiae you memorize in med school will be irrelevant after residency, and 80% of what you need you can look up online with UpToDate et al. (The 80/20 rule seems to apply fairly well in medicine - e.g. 80% of problematic issues on a given day will come from 20% of your patients, 80% of meaningful info you receive will come from 20% of what's communicated to you, 80% of your job satisfaction will come from 20% of your daily interactions, 80% of complaints will be about 20% of the physicians, etc.)
 
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and physically prepare myself for medical school. Any tips. Btw, I do use Anki. In fact, I've used it to teach myself Japanese, and I'm really liking it. Sadly, I discovered it very late when studying for the MCAT, and who knows how well I would've done if I had discovered it earlier.

3) I'm wondering. How exactly do students who are active in clubs find time to be in clubs and study when they're in med school? It doesn't have to just apply to clubs, also research, or community service, etc.

4) Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly does merger between AOA and ACGME mean? From what I know, DOs and MDs already had same training, and for the most hiring process in hospi

Buy Physiology by Constanza. It's highly recommended amongst medical students. The book isn't too large and you can probably take it down in around 80hrs. Spend 3-4hrs/day reading, taking notes on it, or making ANKI cards. Don't worry about if you should know this or that from the book. It's pretty concise so you manage to learn everything and it should cover most everything you need to know. This will give you a much stronger base in physiology which basically the foundation of medicine. Everyone will tell you not to study. They're wrong. Live your life with balance. Doing a little bit each day now will give you more free time once you start medical school. You don't have to party straight for the next four months and neglect anything related to medicine. It's possible to have balance in life.

As for the single accreditation system, or the "AOA-ACGME merger" as you called it, read up on it. There's a plethora of information concerning the change--start with the AOA website, ACGME website, and SDN.

Also, if you're going to a DO program, you need to read The DOs by Norman Gevitz.
 
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Buy Physiology by Constanza. It's highly recommended amongst medical students. The book isn't too large and you can probably take it down in around 80hrs. Spend 3-4hrs/day reading, taking notes on it, or making ANKI cards. Don't worry about if you should know this or that from the book. It's pretty concise so you manage to learn everything and it should cover most everything you need to know. This will give you a much stronger base in physiology which basically the foundation of medicine. Everyone will tell you not to study. They're wrong. Live your life with balance. Doing a little bit each day now will give you more free time once you start medical school. You don't have to party straight for the next four months and neglect anything related to medicine. It's possible to have balance in life.

As for the single accreditation system, or the "AOA-ACGME merger" as you called it, read up on it. There's a plethora of information concerning the change--start with the AOA website, ACGME website, and SDN.

Also, if you're going to a DO program, you need to read The DOs by Norman Gevitz.

I want to clarify. When you said 3-4 hours, this is when I'm NOT in medical school, right? Because obviously 3-4 hours on just one book when I have other classes seems a bit overwhelming.

Also, thanks for letting me know. I'm also continuing to study Japanese as well as getting my driver's license within these next few months.
 
Watch this clip, then mentally prepare for the onslaught of information that will med school. Until orientation starts, just relax and enjoy your free time!



Yeah, but what if it's been a few years since I graduated college? I know I brought this up before, but wouldn't it make sense to just "get my wheels greasing once more" to get used to studying? I would also make time to relax no doubt. But just a little bit of studying each day just to get my brain active. You know?
 
I want to clarify. When you said 3-4 hours, this is when I'm NOT in medical school, right? Because obviously 3-4 hours on just one book when I have other classes seems a bit overwhelming.

Also, thanks for letting me know. I'm also continuing to study Japanese as well as getting my driver's license within these next few months.

Lol... it may take you more or less than that. And just to clarify, if you don't read very well, the book probably won't be that helpful for you. My advice is geared towards people who read well and are wondering how they can prepare for medical school or take advantage of the 5month break they have from now until they matriculate. The point of reading it now and taking your time, is that you can build a really strong foundation. As far as how much time you'll have once you start, I don't know. I can only tell you how my program is. We don't really have time to read. We cover a ton of material and are pretty much forced to watch lecture, read whatever packet we're provided with, and use the professor's powerpoints (ppt). I normally just turn whatever they give us (ppt, notes, etc.) into flash cards and memorize the facts using brute force. Using this, I'm able to do pretty well grade-wise. The problem is, because we're learning so much at once and are forced to memorize a ton of facts that aren't presented to us in a holistic big-picture kind of way, I don't think most students will have very good long term recall of what we learn. I suspect this will be bad for second year and the boards. TBH, most of our lecturers suck, the notes suck, and the way the curriculum is structured sucks as well. Personally, I learn very well from reading. Good authors are able to take their time and present everything in a holistic way. If the packets at my school were written well, i'd be in heaven. Unfortunately, most of them aren't and there aren't normally assigned readings. Most text books for other classes (anatomy, biochem, etc.) are too broad and not useful. The only book I can think of that is very useful is Physiology. The curriculum at my undergrad followed pretty good text books, so I was able to learn using that medium. Reading enabled me to score in the 90th percentile on my MCAT--ironically the reading section was my lowest score by a large margin.

Reading Physiology now is like hedging your bets for med school. Regardless of how much time you have once you start or how your curriculum is set up, you can build a solid foundation in a class central to all of medicine.
 
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I don't know what you mean by reading very well. I mean, I can read perfectly if that's what you're referring.

If you mean if I'm used to reading textbooks in general then yeah, I can do that just fine. I've read entire chapters for many of my classes in college just fine. In fact, it seems weird, but I kinda enjoyed reading textbooks for science classes in college.
 
I want to clarify. When you said 3-4 hours, this is when I'm NOT in medical school, right? Because obviously 3-4 hours on just one book when I have other classes seems a bit overwhelming.

Also, thanks for letting me know. I'm also continuing to study Japanese as well as getting my driver's license within these next few months.


Please don't do this. Please ignore this advice. It's useless advice. I came in to school with nothing more than pre-reqs, as did many classmates. I'm very far from a genius, though I do work harder than 98% of people - I'm currently in the top 20% of my class. You will have MORE than enough time once school starts to learn everything from the ground up. Again, please don't waste your last few months pre-studying. I was in your position last year, and I didn't listen so I'm telling you this from firsthand experience.
 
Please don't do this. Please ignore this advice. It's useless advice. I came in to school with nothing more than pre-reqs, as did many classmates. I'm very far from a genius, though I do work harder than 98% of people - I'm currently in the top 20% of my class. You will have MORE than enough time once school starts to learn everything from the ground up. Again, please don't waste your last few months pre-studying. I was in your position last year, and I didn't listen so I'm telling you this from firsthand experience.
Agree. This would be a waste of time. You're not gonna remember any of this. Take the advice I PMed you along with all the other advice given.


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Please don't do this. Please ignore this advice. It's useless advice. I came in to school with nothing more than pre-reqs, as did many classmates. I'm very far from a genius, though I do work harder than 98% of people - I'm currently in the top 20% of my class. You will have MORE than enough time once school starts to learn everything from the ground up. Again, please don't waste your last few months pre-studying. I was in your position last year, and I didn't listen so I'm telling you this from firsthand experience.

The main reason why I ever considered "pre-studying" as an option in the first place is because it's been a while since I graduated college (2013). Thus, it's been a while since I studied with dedication, so I figured, doing a little reading here and there might get the grease in and get my brain's wheel churning again.
 
Agree. This would be a waste of time. You're not gonna remember any of this. Take the advice I PMed you along with all the other advice given.


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Yeah, your advice along with what you said in the PM I'm definitely taking to heart. No doubt on that one alright.
 
The main reason why I ever considered "pre-studying" as an option in the first place is because it's been a while since I graduated college (2013), so I figured, doing a little reading here and there might get my brain working again.

You're brain works fine. Like I said, read a normal book if you want to get your mind in the "reading mode" again. You reading an entire Medical Physiology book is not going to do you any good. You're going to be reading a bunch of stuff that makes zero sense and a lot of it is going to be like just words to you. The chapters in Costanzo are 40-60 pages each. Instead of reading the book now and retaining little, read the chapter for the corresponding section when you go through it BEFORE the section (like a day or two before, not 5 months).

There is a reason everyone is telling you not to study. Listen to us.

If you want a personal example, I thought that I was going to read the GI section of Costanzo over Christmas break to get ahead. I read the entire chapter on the plane flight home. Guess how much of that I remembered? Very little. This was only a two week time frame and only one chapter.
 
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If you REALLY, REALLY want to keep those learning muscles toned... Continue to learn Japanese provided it is something you enjoy doing.

Yeah. Learning Japanese is something I enjoy doing, so that I will continue to do as much as I can.
 
The main reason why I ever considered "pre-studying" as an option in the first place is because it's been a while since I graduated college (2013). Thus, it's been a while since I studied with dedication, so I figured, doing a little reading here and there might get the grease in and get my brain's wheel churning again.

Yeah......no. do not study. i graduated in 09......i repeat, do not study.
 
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I got a call about an hour ago with the admissions dean telling me that I got accepted, and as expected I was happy at the news. However, I have some questions that I needed answered and I don't know where else to ask, not even my own relatives since they're in med school and thus too busy to talk to me.

1) I'm a nontraditional applicant, and it's been over a year since I studied for the MCAT. I feel like I may have forgotten some stuff, especially from Biology, after I stopped studying for it. But that's the problem. Should I brush up on my biology and other MCAT materials in order to better prepare for med school when it starts? Or is this a bad idea?

2) Any other way I can mentally and physically prepare myself for medical school. Any tips. Btw, I do use Anki. In fact, I've used it to teach myself Japanese, and I'm really liking it. Sadly, I discovered it very late when studying for the MCAT, and who knows how well I would've done if I had discovered it earlier.

3) I'm wondering. How exactly do students who are active in clubs find time to be in clubs and study when they're in med school? It doesn't have to just apply to clubs, also research, or community service, etc.

4) Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly does merger between AOA and ACGME mean? From what I know, DOs and MDs already had same training, and for the most hiring process in hospital prior to the merger. What exactly does this new merger bring that wasn't exactly around prior to it?

You're going to be studying for at least 7 years, why study now? Go out and enjoy the world because I think it'll be a while before you have any emotional, social and financial freedom.
 
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I'd say 80% of the minutiae you memorize in med school will be irrelevant after residency, and 80% of what you need you can look up online with UpToDate et al. (The 80/20 rule seems to apply fairly well in medicine - e.g. 80% of problematic issues on a given day will come from 20% of your patients, 80% of meaningful info you receive will come from 20% of what's communicated to you, 80% of your job satisfaction will come from 20% of your daily interactions, 80% of complaints will be about 20% of the physicians, etc.)
Haha this was awesome.
 
You're brain works fine. Like I said, read a normal book if you want to get your mind in the "reading mode" again.

Agree 100%. Read books for fun-- your time to do that in the future will be limited.

My personal recommendation, if you like high fantasy and want a long book to practice reading A LOT, is Way of Kings by Brandon Sanderson (1280 pages). Follow it up with the 1328-page sequel Words of Radiance.
 
Btw, guys, this is a weird question, but I was wondering. Will you be able to have some time to play games, provided you don't shirk on your studies, of course? Are there any gamers in med school who managed to do well and still play games? I'm a gamer myself, and it would be nice to not have to give up this hobby for the next four years.
 
Btw, guys, this is a weird question, but I was wondering. Will you be able to have some time to play games, provided you don't shirk on your studies, of course? Are there any gamers in med school who managed to do well and still play games? I'm a gamer myself, and it would be nice to not have to give up this hobby for the next four years.
After you get into your groove-- absolutely. But, it all depends on if you are married/ kids/ etc. If single then 100% yes
 
DO NOT PRE-STUDY - I was 7 years out from graduating college and switched back into study mode just fine.
 
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Btw, guys, this is a weird question, but I was wondering. Will you be able to have some time to play games, provided you don't shirk on your studies, of course? Are there any gamers in med school who managed to do well and still play games? I'm a gamer myself, and it would be nice to not have to give up this hobby for the next four years.
Hitman is life. I will never give up Hitman.


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After you get into your groove-- absolutely. But, it all depends on if you are married/ kids/ etc. If single then 100% yes

I'm not married and I don't have kids. So I'll gladly take the 100% yes!
 
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OP don't prestudy anything. You're just going to forget everything for when it really matters, which is for boards. You have to treat med school as a marathon and day by day, because it will seem the first 2 years are largely worthless. Don't burn yourself out.
 
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Recall the difference between studying for college and studying for medical school ---

In college, you'll be asked to have a cursory knowledge of the library -- in general you should know how many floors, what's on each floor in terms of materials, where the majority of the study carrolls are located, conference rooms, computers, etc. and where the various personnel sit.

In medical school --- You'll need to know that on the third floor, SW corner in the study carroll closest to the window, the leg that is northernmost is attached by 3 screws which are all drawn from the same lot number, the 4th screw is from the next lot number which is unusual in that the machine was run by 1 of the 2 surviving crewmen of the first landing craft in the first wave of D-Day who went into working at a screw manufacturing facility in Hamtramck after the war -- the facility used ore mined from Zimbabwe and the ore used in this particular screw was taken out of the mine by Mungo who was wearing homemade straw sandals at the time....

Get the picture?

Lol Hamtramck - go Detroit!
 
I started med school 6 years out of undergrad. I never understood why people STRESSED having a good balance with school and fun until half way through 2nd year. No one cares about your grades beyond hitting the minimum for a specialty. Some may be high, many low minimums. I'd rather spend 10 years making memories and enjoying my time at school than looking back someday thinking about how I did nothing for 10 years but study and work. I'm going to make 6 figures guaranteed and no one outside will care if I'm a FM or a pediatric neuro radiology once with 10 published papers. I spent all my time out of school traveling. Got 18 countries under my belt and a wife and I did that all in medical school.
 
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I got a call about an hour ago with the admissions dean telling me that I got accepted, and as expected I was happy at the news. However, I have some questions that I needed answered and I don't know where else to ask, not even my own relatives since they're in med school and thus too busy to talk to me.

1) I'm a nontraditional applicant, and it's been over a year since I studied for the MCAT. I feel like I may have forgotten some stuff, especially from Biology, after I stopped studying for it. But that's the problem. Should I brush up on my biology and other MCAT materials in order to better prepare for med school when it starts? Or is this a bad idea?

2) Any other way I can mentally and physically prepare myself for medical school. Any tips. Btw, I do use Anki. In fact, I've used it to teach myself Japanese, and I'm really liking it. Sadly, I discovered it very late when studying for the MCAT, and who knows how well I would've done if I had discovered it earlier.

3) I'm wondering. How exactly do students who are active in clubs find time to be in clubs and study when they're in med school? It doesn't have to just apply to clubs, also research, or community service, etc.

4) Pardon my ignorance, but what exactly does merger between AOA and ACGME mean? From what I know, DOs and MDs already had same training, and for the most hiring process in hospital prior to the merger. What exactly does this new merger bring that wasn't exactly around prior to it?

1) DO NOT STUDY. Sleep. All day. Every day. DO NOT STUDY. It will make zero difference, I promise you.
2) No way to prepare. Seriously. You'll get thrown into it with everyone else and figure it out while you go. There is absolutely no way to prepare for what lies ahead in medical school.
3) You find time here and there. They are not huge commitments unless you take on leadership roles. Most clubs offer food at events, so a lot of time you just go for the free food.
 
1) DO NOT STUDY. Sleep. All day. Every day. DO NOT STUDY. It will make zero difference, I promise you.
2) No way to prepare. Seriously. You'll get thrown into it with everyone else and figure it out while you go. There is absolutely no way to prepare for what lies ahead in medical school.
3) You find time here and there. They are not huge commitments unless you take on leadership roles. Most clubs offer food at events, so a lot of time you just go for the free food.

"Free food" except for you paid dues haha


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I'm a non-trad 3rd year DO student and I still have lingering questions.
 
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Let your fear be a good motivator on the days you just dont feel like hitting the books. The days you feel great studying crush it as long as you can.
 
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Let your fear be a good motivator on the days you just dont feel like hitting the books. The days you feel great studying crush it as long as you can.
^ This. So this.
 
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