Interesting article: Strength/Intelligence of ortho vs anesthesia

[Varmit22]

BMJ. 2011 Dec 15;3437506. doi: 10.1136/bmj.d7506.
Orthopaedic surgeons: as strong as an ox and almost twice as clever? Multicentre prospective comparative study.
Subramanian P, Kantharuban S, Subramanian V, Willis-Owen SA, Willis-Owen CA.
SourceNorth East Thames London Orthopaedic Rotation, Whipps Cross Hospital, Leytonstone, London W11 1NR, UK.

Abstract
OBJECTIVE: To compare the intelligence and grip strength of orthopaedic surgeons and anaesthetists.

DESIGN: Multicentre prospective comparative study.

SETTING: Three UK district general hospitals in 2011.

PARTICIPANTS: 36 male orthopaedic surgeons and 40 male anaesthetists at consultant or specialist registrar grade.

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Intelligence test score and dominant hand grip strength.

RESULTS: Orthopaedic surgeons had a statistically significantly greater mean grip strength (47.25 (SD 6.95) kg) than anaesthetists (43.83 (7.57) kg). The mean intelligence test score of orthopaedic surgeons was also statistically significantly greater at 105.19 (10.85) compared with 98.38 (14.45) for anaesthetists.

CONCLUSIONS: Male orthopaedic surgeons have greater intelligence and grip strength than their male anaesthetic colleagues, who should find new ways to make fun of their orthopaedic friends.

PMID:22174322[PubMed - in process] PMCID: PMC3240683

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[pgg]

*shakes tiny fist*

 

[fascinoma]

How do you know a progress note is by ortho?

it's written in crayon.

 

[W222]

How do you know a progress note is by ortho?

it's written in crayon.

I love how they can talk at length about the type of screw and whether its a locking or non-locking screw and what study shows the best results; but ask them to try and treat Afib and you get nothing but a blank stare.

 

[btbam]

Ortho dudes are glorified cavemen. They are all like 6'3" and jacked out of their minds.

 

[saratoga733]

Here's a classic. What do you call two orthopods reading an ECG?

A double blind study

 

[G0S2]

Ortho: "So, can we do this lady's hip?"

Me: " Her INR is 12!"

Ortho: "OK, do whatever it is that you do to fix that and page me."


In all honesty, some of the best guys (and one hot gal) I've worked with.

 

[DHT]

How many orthopods does it take to screw in a light bulb.

3. 2 to hold it and 1 to hammer it in.

 

[Lee123]

How do you hide $100 from an orthopedic surgeon?

Answer: put it in a book.

 

[jwk]

Quick true story - old lady getting a hip hemiarthroplasty - pt arrests as orthopod starts inserting the prosthesis. I yell out "she's arrested - we need to turn her flat and start CPR". He says "just give me another minute, I almost have the prosthesis in".

This doesn't meet my definition of "inteligent". Sorry, I don't have a story about grip strength.

 

[ambiturner]

Was the "intelligence test" an IQ test? If I was at the Whipps Cross Hospital I would be more concerned that my anesthetist was, on average, below average intelligence and my orthopaedist barely above.

And to add to the pile-on: How do you know who's car in the doctor's lot belongs to the orthopod?
It's the Porsche with the comic book on the seat.

 

[docdagamecock]

I couldn't let an Anesthesia vs. Ortho thread not include this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rTsvb2ef5k

 

[Per4mer8]

Orthopedic progress note:

BBMF = bone broke, me fix

 

[pgg]

Was the "intelligence test" an IQ test? If I was at the Whipps Cross Hospital I would be more concerned that my anesthetist was, on average, below average intelligence and my orthopaedist barely above.

The full article said the IQ test was a 20-minute Mensa quiz conducted on smartphones.

I couldn't let an Anesthesia vs. Ortho thread not include this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rTsvb2ef5k

Heh, the article cited that YouTube video in the references.

 

[Doctor4Life1769]

The full article said the IQ test was a 20-minute Mensa quiz conducted on smartphones.




Heh, the article cited that YouTube video in the references.

so, orthopods are better with their smaftphones??

 

[ushush]

<-70kilo grip. Not going into surgery or anesthesia.

 

[epidural man]

BMJ. 2011 Dec 15;3437506. doi: 10.1136/bmj.d7506.
Orthopaedic surgeons: as strong as an ox and almost twice as clever? Multicentre prospective comparative study.
Subramanian P, Kantharuban S, Subramanian V, Willis-Owen SA, Willis-Owen CA.
SourceNorth East Thames London Orthopaedic Rotation, Whipps Cross Hospital, Leytonstone, London W11 1NR, UK.

Abstract
OBJECTIVE: To compare the intelligence and grip strength of orthopaedic surgeons and anaesthetists.

DESIGN: Multicentre prospective comparative study.

SETTING: Three UK district general hospitals in 2011.

PARTICIPANTS: 36 male orthopaedic surgeons and 40 male anaesthetists at consultant or specialist registrar grade.

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Intelligence test score and dominant hand grip strength.

RESULTS: Orthopaedic surgeons had a statistically significantly greater mean grip strength (47.25 (SD 6.95) kg) than anaesthetists (43.83 (7.57) kg). The mean intelligence test score of orthopaedic surgeons was also statistically significantly greater at 105.19 (10.85) compared with 98.38 (14.45) for anaesthetists.

CONCLUSIONS: Male orthopaedic surgeons have greater intelligence and grip strength than their male anaesthetic colleagues, who should find new ways to make fun of their orthopaedic friends.

PMID:22174322[PubMed - in process] PMCID: PMC3240683

I love this article. Thanks for posting -

Very clever writing - and how great is it that someone actually published it. More articles like it need to pepper our journals.

Here is a great line from it.

"We had predicted that the anaesthetist group might outperform the orthopaedic group, as intellectually challenging activities such as crosswords and Sudoku are popular among anaesthetists."

And the conclusion is fantastic...

"Conclusion
The stereotypical image of male orthopaedic surgeons as strong
but stupid is unjustified in comparison with their male
anaesthetist counterparts. The comedic repertoire of the average
anaesthetist needs to be revised in the light of these data.
However, we would recommend caution in making fun of
orthopaedic surgeons, as unwary anaesthetists may find
themselves on the receiving end of a sharp and quick witted
retort from their intellectually sharper friends or may be greeted
with a crushing handshake at their next encounter."

 

[kazuma]

I love this article. Thanks for posting -

Very clever writing - and how great is it that someone actually published it. More articles like it need to pepper our journals.

Here is a great lines from it.

"We had predicted that the anaesthetist group might outperform the orthopaedic group, as intellectually challenging activities such as crosswords and Sudoku are popular among anaesthetists."

And the conclusion is fantastic...

"Conclusion
The stereotypical image of male orthopaedic surgeons as strong
but stupid is unjustified in comparison with their male
anaesthetist counterparts. The comedic repertoire of the average
anaesthetist needs to be revised in the light of these data.
However, we would recommend caution in making fun of
orthopaedic surgeons, as unwary anaesthetists may find
themselves on the receiving end of a sharp and quick witted
retort from their intellectually sharper friends or may be greeted
with a crushing handshake at their next encounter."

Advice to live by. What a great conclusion.

 

[gtb]

Love the December issues of BMJ, they always have fun and hilarious manuscripts. One year I saw an article with a reference that went something like, "God, Personal Communication.