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To have the best opportunities/knowledge/etc?
Or is it more or less the same without a fellowship?
Or is it more or less the same without a fellowship?
Stroke fellowship can be very helpful if you want to pursue a neurohospitalist or academic position. People hiring neurohospitalists prefer those that are stroke or NCC trained. It also allows you to be competitive for stroke director positions, which typically pay a bit more than a regular neurohospitalist. If you goal is to see patients in clinic and do no inpatient work, stroke fellowship is probably a waste of time. If you have no desire to be a stroke director and don't need to compete for a job in a major market, stroke fellowship may also be a waste of time. There is a real shortage of vascular neurologists in the U.S., so it does provide you a lot of job security.
Thank you for sharing this valuable information.I will wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. I turned down 2-stroke fellowship for the opportunity to be a neurohospitalist. I interviewed all over the country and once I realized that the stroke fellowship was not going to get me more income or even a leg up, I drop the fellowship like a hot potato.
I am a true dedicated neurohospitalist in a mid size academic institution and was offered the job over a vascular stroke doc. I have also turned being the stroke director (at two different institutions) even with a $50k stipend- I just hate admin work.
You will need a fellowship to practice certain sub-specialties in neurology i.e neurooncology, neurooptho etc. While in residency, I made sure to spend a lot of times reading EEGs and thus I read my own. Bottom line is that you don't need to a stroke fellowship to be a neurohospitalist or to make $300k, practice/group fit, in my experience, is the most important thing in a job search.
Thank you for sharing this valuable information.
How's the demand for neurohospitalists? I'm strongly considering this career path.
There is more demand than applicants. Also, just because an institution is not advertising for a neurohospitalist doesn't mean they won't hire one. I been approached by several institutions asking me to a. start a program b. take over all inpatient responsibilities. (remember that most practicing neurologist are older than 55 and hate clinic). I love my 7/on 7/off schedule and really not ready( i love my time off with my family) to take on starting a new program.
Like I said before, when looking for a job, have a list of things that you won't compromise and go from there. for example, when i was interviewing, things in my list that were not negotiable were: salary (i wanted at least $300k), schedule ( i wanted 7/7) size of the city and crime rate.
I will wholeheartedly disagree with this statement. I turned down 2-stroke fellowship for the opportunity to be a neurohospitalist. I interviewed all over the country and once I realized that the stroke fellowship was not going to get me more income or even a leg up, I drop the fellowship like a hot potato.
I am a true dedicated neurohospitalist in a mid size academic institution and was offered the job over a vascular stroke doc. I have also turned being the stroke director (at two different institutions) even with a $50k stipend- I just hate admin work.
You will need a fellowship to practice certain sub-specialties in neurology i.e neurooncology, neurooptho etc. While in residency, I made sure to spend a lot of times reading EEGs and thus I read my own. Bottom line is that you don't need to a stroke fellowship to be a neurohospitalist or to make $300k, practice/group fit, in my experience, is the most important thing in a job search.
Thanks for your post. I'm at a crossroads. Applying to stroke fellowships this month but only want to be a hospitalist....
Which neurology residency programs provide heavy hospital training that would be adequate for someone considering a neurohospitalist career but not interested in pursuing a fellowship?
Thank you,
Follow up question: Are hours in fellowship similar to residency hours? Or is the schedule during fellowship more like 8-5 with weekends off, allowing the opportunity to do moonlight and make up for some of the financial loss?Being a neurohospitalist with just residency is absolutely doable, especially in smaller towns and less competitive metro areas. Some fellowships can make you more competitive for jobs in academic centers and more competitive metro areas, and can improve your billing. The really attractive thing about most neurology fellowships is that, as opposed to the 2-3+ years of residency-like effort that medicine people do, our fellowships are usually just 1 year and are not particularly competitive. It's a small price to pay to gain billable skills and make yourself a more in-demand commodity.
Depends on what you do. For NNICU fellowships you might think residency was easy by comparison. But mostly the hours are far less than residency hours and are more on the order of 8-5 with some call.Follow up question: Are hours in fellowship similar to residency hours? Or is the schedule during fellowship more like 8-5 with weekends off, allowing the opportunity to do moonlight and make up for some of the financial loss?
To have the best opportunities/knowledge/etc?
Or is it more or less the same without a fellowship?
Which neurology residency programs provide heavy hospital training that would be adequate for someone considering a neurohospitalist career but not interested in pursuing a fellowship?
Thank you,[/QUO
Every neurology residency program is focused on being inpatient heavy and you get adequate training. One of our attending's also turned down an NIH stroke fellowship for a neurohospitalist position. I feel if you have a good residency program with good exposure to all sub specialties there is no role of doing a fellowship
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I was interested in a Clinical Neurophysiology fellowship to work in a private practice, but...I am growing tired of being in training.
I have zero interest in academics, don't care about being in a big city, and have a strong desire to grow and support a family. Small towns and rural areas are actually what I grew up with and prefer.
Do I REALLY need that CNP fellowship?
If you feel comfortable doing EMG and reading EEGs, you do not need a fellowship. Now, I think if you spend several month in EMU reading continuous EEGs and seeing very weird epilepsy cases, it helps a lot. In terms of stroke fellowship, I feel like the entire neurology residency if vascular fellowship. I am no sure why would you do a vascular fellowship to give tPA, give aspirin or aspirin + Plavix or call your endovascular colleagues? It will roughly cost you 250K. You can invest those money or even buy a small house.Bump for current Neuro PGY2 with a similar question
I was interested in a Clinical Neurophysiology fellowship to work in a private practice, but...I am growing tired of being in training.
I have zero interest in academics, don't care about being in a big city, and have a strong desire to grow and support a family. Small towns and rural areas are actually what I grew up with and prefer.
Do I REALLY need that CNP fellowship?
A fellowship will be required at top academic institutions, especially if you are interested in perusing research