Is there any problem between European and Turkish students?

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Hi guys,

Do you live or observe any Eropean vs Turkish cultural problem in European med schools? Do the European students bother Turkish students? Have you ever observe any such detail? This may be just a feeling, an interaction or a specific problem; anything counts, and I need to see this before my decision.

Thanks a lot..

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Not in France! nobody cares about your culture in college (it's different in high school)!
 
It's the same in Czech Republic. There are no cultural problems but the differences are quite huge.

Most of my European friends love Turkish food, music and people and they're known for their hospitality of a kind of course!
 
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Thank you guys. To see that old "we are the civilization" self-fooling story is still working to develop its own believers, but not persuasive worldwide anymore. Imperialism+orientalism paradigm is not working anymore, but they are like the White Turks of two decades ago: "We are good, we are complete" doenst work, and its one of the greatest obstacles in one's development.
While you have good intensions with respect in an equal manner, to see those european kids still trying to sell what their system tells them is something shouldnt bother the people around them. I dont want to deal with such an unnecassary thing during my education; so I asked whether its widespread or not especially in those E-EU schools.

May I ask one more thing? With a wider scope, say there is any kind of discrimination, race, religion, nationality etc., how do you observe the stance and reaction of your school's administration? Have you ever experienced or observed such stuff?

Thanks again..
 
To be honest, it's very rare that you will ever face any serious incidents of racist attacks (or attacks made on your religion, nationality etc.) within the university. But if it happens within the University, it really depends on how the student department addresses such issues. You might be able to bring light to this issue and they might take some action (nothing serious though.)

I believe every country has its own share of racists but that is certainly not representative of the entire population. You should be fine in Prague! I have heard that being of African/Black descent might create problems in Prague and it probably is, but I've also seen so many Blacks getting along quite well without any problems.
 
To be honest, it's very rare that you will ever face any serious incidents of racist attacks (or attacks made on your religion, nationality etc.) within the university. But if it happens within the University, it really depends on how the student department addresses such issues. You might be able to bring light to this issue and they might take some action (nothing serious though.)

I believe every country has its own share of racists but that is certainly not representative of the entire population. You should be fine in Prague! I have heard that being of African/Black descent might create problems in Prague and it probably is, but I've also seen so many Blacks getting along quite well without any problems.

Ohh!, Shreypete thank you very much, its really relieving to hear this from an objective eye living there. I am coming from such a warm-hearted society that we embrace those differences with compassion, let alone to discriminate (of course generally speaking... there are sick people here too, and besides, Istanbul, the greatest metropolis of Turkey, turned to such a big pool that people got more and more indifferent to each other, never mind native or foreigner, but regularly Turks care about you). If you are a black here for instance, you draw attention, yes, but with positive feelings, even our moms care about you and consider whether you can eat well, find whatever you need easily.. etc). If you would be pink or green, you would be even more interesting for us :laugh:

To hear those all was good really.. thank you once again :)
 
You're welcome! Yes indeed, I've heard so much of the Turkish hospitality from my friends who've been there once (and now they go there every year). I would definitely like to visit this country sometime soon. I'm quite a language fanatic so Turkish really sounds quite delightful to my ears for some reason (and their kebaps only peak my interest more.)
 
Sorry for the delay, I skiped to pay a bill and my ISP skiped to provide my internet access for a day :rolleyes:

If you come to Istanbul, dont forget to say hi to me too :) and dont forget, the first things the youngsters try to teach the non-natives are always swears :p by the way if you can learn Turkish somewhat to some degree, this opens another professional alternative for you in Turkey, of course if you consider someday. There is a great need for MDs here and the doors are officially opened to non-native MDs as well. Depending on the place you work, it may add a lot of experience. Medicine in Turkey (especially in metropolises) is well developed. Everything in the world is done here too, no problem at that point, but as I said, the quality and opportunities depend on the place you work.
 
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Sorry for the delay, I skiped to pay a bill and my ISP skiped to provide my internet access for a day :rolleyes:

If you come to Istanbul, dont forget to say hi to me too :) and dont forget, the first things the youngsters try to teach the non-natives are always swears :p by the way if you can learn Turkish somewhat to some degree, this opens another professional alternative for you in Turkey, of course if you consider someday. There is a great need for MDs here and the doors are officially opened to non-native MDs as well. Depending on the place you work, it may add a lot of experience. Medicine in Turkey (especially in metropolises) is well developed. Everything in the world is done here too, no problem at that point, but as I said, the quality and opportunities depend on the place you work.

And what is the average salary general practitioners make? surgeons?

And the average number of working hours per week?
 
And what is the average salary general practitioners make? surgeons?

And the average number of working hours per week?

In Turkish culture there is an inclination to see a doctor as a specialist, and the graduates prefer to get in a residency spot of any kind. But in recent years Health Ministry changed the system and created a general practitioner step between the patients and the specialists. Now everybody has a gp in his/her neighbourhood and first they see those doctors. If there is a need for more, then they go to a specific specialty, but a lot of work load is taken by those general practitioners. Those gp offices are private, they themselves get together in groups of 5 or 6 gp.s, they own and manage thier own office, pay their secretary and nurses, and they are payed by the health ministry (if not changed) about 3.500TL/gp (near to $2.000).

Specialists are changing from 5.000 to 10.000TL. Depending on a specialist I talked, those are the widespread and realistic numbers (but I didnt make a wide research about it and those data are coming from a couple of MDs). But on the other hand, for the ones that have high demand, there is no upper limit. The numbers may be (regarding professional sources) 50.000TL or 100.000TL.

For surgeons how it is I must check around. I can tell it later, ok?.. and by the way in Istanbul, which is the most expensive city in Turkey, 3.500TL is not bad. If you know when and where to buy what, you live with that much money comfortably. But of course I dont know your alternatives, this is only an option..

Oh, by the way again, I forgot: The working styles are very different, as far as I can see. For instance the primary doctor of my daddy is working in a select hospital here and his working hours is 09:00 to 18:00 and thats all (plus he takes all of the phone calls about his patients when he is out of hospital). He works weekdays and weekends belong to him, but he is a caring doctor, so if he has a patient in mind, he comes to hospital any day,never mind Saturday or Sunday, but regularly he is not working in weekends. The surgeon of my daddy is working in a public hospital from morning to 17:00-18:00, and he goes to his office and from 18:00 to 20:00 he is there. If he has a private patient in another hospital, he pays visit in his own hours after 17:00 and before his office hours. In weekends he leaves public hospital earlier afternoon at about 13:00 or so, and he is off Sundays. Some other private doctors, totally depending on their personal choices, can work until 22:00. I even saw an example of an MD working in his office regularly until 23:30! But its not life, its slavery, man!

And for the GPs, they have regular working hours between about 09:00 to again about 16:00 or 17:00, depending on the patients. Once in a week they spare one afternoon for making a tour of their disabled patients (the ones cant get out of bed and needs to be seen). If not necessary they dont make the tour, they dont have to, they are pretty much free in their program.
 
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Thank you very much for the info. So is a doctors salary comfortable for living in an expensive city like Istanbul?
 
Shreypete to me yes, but let me ask this question to some other people as well. To appreciate something personally is not enough to give an idea about the big picture. I must ask for others opinions as well. I want to answer this question some time later again, ok? :)
 
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