Good luck all. I have my exam end of March and hope to be the 1st one to post here for 2010.
Done, it felt like the nbmes in difficulty with a few more "WTF"
questions. If you're doing well on uworld it won't be too bad! Bit more biochem than I expected but then again I'd thought I'd overstudied for it. FA is nowhere near enough for it for biochem.
Very.
Was the biochem more like molecular/cell bio type stuff? Or was it more like detailed pathway or disease stuff? Do you have any suggestions for what might be a good source?
What IS the turnaround time right now anyways? They said on the test form thing it was 8 weeks, but it seems like they've been getting results to people before that, right?
So I figured I used this thread when I was studying, and would update it with my experiences. Sorry if its rambling/disoriented - finished the test today and just got home from celebratin. Overall I didn't do all that well first year, second year got a little more serious. I mainly focused on classes, the extent of my board studying through second year was reading the relevant Goljan chapters. I also bought Kaplan around Dec and went along with each systems, did about half of it by the time board studying rolled around.
I took NBME 7 2 weeks before finals, got a 220.
NBME 5 (1 week into board studying) got a 222 - this was real disheartening to see after a week no change
NBME 6 - (2 and a half weeks into board studying) got a 247 - this obviously was amazing.
Free 150 (2 days before actual test) 91%
So basically the first week of studying I did biochem/embryo/behavioral/path/immuno/micro - the non-systems stuff. Mostly FA/Goljan. After I had finished that took the first NBME. After that I really ramped it up, went through all the Goljan audio, one pass of RR path, and one FA pass in about a week and a half. Took another NBME after that and did real well. In the last week and a half I did another pass of FA and really focused on doing usmle world questions. I did 100% of world (mostly random 48) and finished with a 70% overall (averaging mid70s to mid80s by the end). After I had finished that first pass of world, I redid all the wrong questions. I also read HY neuroanatomy and brs path at some point during studying.
As for the test itself? World is MONEY. It was so similar to the real thing. The length and difficulty was on par, I normally finished each world block with about 10 minutes to spare and the real thing was the exact same. I found world to be maybe a little more detail based and the real thing to be a little more intellectual/analytical.
The test itself was SO random. I had 3 questions on I-cell disease, a ton of random experiment designs, a crapload of fairly advanced genetics (I took a genetics class as an undergrad and that helped alot. But seriously it was pretty rough for my test at least FA would NOT have cut it). I had maybe 15 pharm questions the entire test, almost no neuro. The murmurs sucked, I was good with them on world and listened to them ahead of time but the ones they had I found to be significantly harder. The hardest thing for me was the stamina, it was draining being there all day. I also had a block from hell where I ran out of time. The randomness is tough to deal with. Oh and the micro. I did FA so many times because I knew it was my weakest subject. It was tough on the real thing FA was sufficient for a majority of the questions, but for a significant minority they wanted a level of detail which I didn't know. As for each block itself, it came down maybe 1-3 questions I really didn't know, another handful that I wasn't too sure about, a bunch that I was pretty sure about but not gimme, and maybe about half of the block was gimmes. The gimmes are really really easy. Insanely easy. Another nice thing I noticed is that the answer choices were all different. For example for a young nonsmoker with emphysema and cirrohsis, along with antitrypsin they had other random enzymes that had NO bearing on anything.
But man being done is amazing. I'm just glad the test is over. I started hoping for a 240, I think I'm at the point where I'd be ecstatic if I got over 250, happy over 240, and ok with over 230. I did have the good nbme scores but I did those tests fairly relaxed (ie two blocks, then an hour break or something). Fatigue played a pretty big role for me and hopefully didn't affect my scores too badly. Good luck to those of you who still have to take it!
Dude, I had 2 bosentan questions, too. Thank God for UWorld is all I have to say about that one. I also had a lot of other weird concepts repeated like lead poisoning, Chagas disease, and Von Gierke's.Yeah, I had a couple qs about the same really random drug (bosentan) haha, good thing I knew what it does.
Dude, I had 2 bosentan questions, too. Thank God for UWorld is all I have to say about that one. I also had a lot of other weird concepts repeated like lead poisoning, Chagas disease, and Von Gierke's.
Here's a question that's been eating at me for awhile: Why does the the ventricle stretch less easily with increased filling pressure? Is it due to connective tissue restriction or myocardial contratcion in response to stretch?
bosentan is mentioned in FA 2010,but not in 09 i guess its good to get the latest versionYeah, I had a couple qs about the same really random drug (bosentan) haha, good thing I knew what it does.
It probably has to do with the whole stretching curve, where there's a toe where it'll stretch a lot under relatively low tension but requires a lot more once there's a decent amount of stretch.
right, but why does that happen? i would guess that its the heart passively contracting or something while it is being filled up rather than connective tissue. this would allow for you to pump out more volume when its present and adhere to starling's mechanism. anyone know the answer?
ere's a question that's been eating at me for awhile: Why does the the ventricle stretch less easily with increased filling pressure? Is it due to connective tissue restriction or myocardial contratcion in response to stretch?
Hands down, the best preparation for this was super gunning second year. Religiously reading FA/RR, listening to Goljan, doing UW at least twice = money.
Considering my 4 practice exams ranged from 252-262, that's what I'm hoping for. I know I made stupid mistakes along the way, and had to straight-up guess every now and then, so we'll see how it goes.
Also, I'm still trying to figure out if there are different versions of Step 1 or if there's just a massive question bank. I'm sort of leaning towards question bank, but who knows. (Well, maybe someone on here does).
Anything you guys want to know, other than specific test questions, just ask.
Oh just a few more random quick thoughts:
I seriously got asked straight up the MOA of one of the simplest and most commonly used drugs out there TWO TIMES. Just flat out "A patient has these symptoms and takes this drug. What is the mechanism by which it alleviates her symptoms?"
Lots of anatomy like others have said. Or at least more %-wise than any question banks. And it was weird stuff you really probably couldn't prepare well for without spending an inordinate amount of time on (and one of them they just plain tricked me good on).
Just got out of the test and thought I'd post up my experiences.
Overall the test was straightforward, but I feel like I made a lot of dumb mistakes just because of my inability to recall a small detail. My preparation wasn't as intense as some people here, but still pretty substantial nonetheless.
I took five and a half weeks to study. I did next to none preparation before the end of MS2 because I just had no idea where to start. I think I could have done it in less time if I had reviewed a little over MS2, but whatever. Doesn't matter now .
Here are some numbers to get a good idea of my level of preparation:
UWord: 69% overall (48 random/timed/first pass); I started the qbank a bit too early before even really getting into FA so I was hitting mid 50s in the beginning. After I finished FA, my scores shot up to mid 60s and then mid 70s.
NBME 7 (two weeks of studying, barely 1/2 of FA done): 234
UWSA 1 (three weeks; most of FA done): 258
UWSA 2 (four weeks; finally finished with FA): 264 (I also did three blocks of UWorld qbank afterwards to simulate a real test and got 81%/81%/72%).
I did three passes through FA. My first pass was a bit unnecessarily slow (took me three and a half weeks), second pass was a week and a half, and my last pass was 4 days.
I listened to Goljan, but not too attentively since I was also reading RR. I made one pass through RR second edition.
I made one very quick pass through Clinical Microbiology Made Ridiculously Simple. In retrospect, this wasn't necessary since the micro on my test was largely a joke. FA was more than enough.
Now, as for the test. My goal was a 250, but I really don't think that's happening since I felt like I missed a lot of questions. We'll see though.
Anatomy: by far the hardest mostly because the questions asked were really detailed. I would have had trouble answering these questions while even taking anatomy.
Biochemistry: pretty straightforward with a couple of weird questions which I hope were experimental.
Cell bio: not sure if I got any cell bio questions. They were probably integrated in some vignette that I didn't realize.
Histology: none here that I could tell.
Embryo: I think this went okay, I can't remember. One particularly annoying question dealt with knowing when the earliest date was that a fetus could be still viable so you wouldn't abort a viable baby (weird...).
Physiology: very few pure physio questions which disappointed me since I thought physio was my strength. I had one very difficult respiratory physio question that dealt with using some positive pressure ventilator thing. I had no idea how to answer it mostly because I wasn't sure what the answers were saying.
Biostats: straightforward equation use. A couple of head-scratchers on interpreting particular variables (i.e. power, type I error, etc.).
Pharm: VERY straightforward. UWorld be damned for their ridiculous pharm questions. FA is more than enough.
The rest of the test was pretty unremarkable or I can't really remember.
I hope this was semi-informative.
Oh, and the vignettes were unnecessarily long. Sometimes there was 5-6 lines of information, and 3-4 of those lines weren't even needed for the diagnosis. Bah.
When do we get our scores?
Long time lurker, few time poster. Anyways:
In general: on my particular form, if you knew FA cold you probably would know the answer to 50-60%. The rest were full of things that I had never seen before in my life. One question I was only able to get because one of our instructors talked about his research interests and went into detail about a particular signaling pathway which is probably only mentioned in Robbins.
Overall, I I doubt I met my practice score projections (was projected to do fairly well) but I'm not too broken up about it because I'm not sure if I could have done better even if I had had another week to prepare. Here's hoping for a generooooous curve.
Statements like this TERRIFY me. If you supposedly need to get about 60% right to pass Step 1, and you said almost half the stuff on your exam was stuff most med students probably haven't even heard of, well......you guys can do the math
Microbio: There was a TON of microbio.. as in "This protein is made by what cell and whats its purpose and what kind of processing does it go through"... blahh I feel like I'll lose most of my points here.. barely looked at this stuff and it'll show..
Congrats on completing. Hope you get a realy nice score after all the hard work.
You mentioned "protein" being made by microorganisms in the above..can you please elaborate? Are they referring to virulence factors, toxin, stuff like that?
Thanks.
I felt like throughout the test this was mostly true...memorizing First Aid definitely helps you for rote memorization required, but a good chunk of the questions require reasoning and process of elimination...some of them you simply "just know" from exposure to various topics throughout medical school. On several questions, I thought to myself, "there nothing I could have done to prepare myself for this qeustion, only test-taking skills"...
and I also want to echo some previous posts about some of the question wording- some questions had long almost run-on sentences that I had to re-read 5x just to understand...some questions had several prepositions and seemingly double-negative sentences...
Statements like this TERRIFY me. If you supposedly need to get about 60% right to pass Step 1, and you said almost half the stuff on your exam was stuff most med students probably haven't even heard of, well......you guys can do the math
Statements like this TERRIFY me. If you supposedly need to get about 60% right to pass Step 1, and you said almost half the stuff on your exam was stuff most med students probably haven't even heard of, well......you guys can do the math
Sorry, didn't mean to freak you out. I should probably clarify and say that while for the remaining 40% of so, rote memorization wouldn't have helped, you could still use your knowledge to probably at least cut out a lot of the answer choices that don't make any sense.
In all honesty, even though I'm sure I didn't hit my projected score, I think (hope) that I still did okay. Remember -- the vast majority of med students are using the exact same resources you are so if you haven't seen something before, odds are that they haven't either!
how the heck do you prepare for anatomy then, lol this is ridiculous if its purely multiple guess.
I suspect the curve is based on how many ppl got that particular question right, so if it was hard (and not experimental) it doesn't hurt you too much to get it wrong but helps you a lot to get it right.
The worst of those was one that had a solid 9-10 lines of text describing a baby with botulism in painful detail. The whole time, I was thinking, "Okay, it's botulism - just have to read through this to make sure I don't miss some weird twist in the question." At the end, it tells you the baby has botulism. To avoid giving anything away, I'll just say that it ends up being a very specific molecular biology question.
The exact same thing happened to me too ... really, in the end, we're all our own worst enemies on this test.