programs strong on Peds

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I know this is very subjective, but I wanted to see what programs might consider themselves to be especially strong on Peds.

Maybe not even whether they actually are or not, but which ones at least think they are.

Any come to mind?

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OU requires 6 months of pediatric anesthesia-halfway to fellowship credentials.
 
In my opinion, a program can be as strong in peds as they want, but if you want to do it for a career you still need to do the fellowship. And coming from a strong all around program is probably more important than coming from a program with a lot of peds.
 
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you also have to take into account what strong peds means - does it mean that you spend 6 months doing healthy peds cases that even a CRNA can do? or does it mean spending 6 months doing neonatal burn cases, toddler transplants, etc....

i agree with previous poster - if you want to do peds you NEED a pedi fellowship - pretty much standard of care now at most hospitals.... so it may be better to be well-trained well-rounded before you do fellowship instead of being pedi-heavy....
 
I agree with most of what the previous posters say, with a few comments.

To call yourself a pediatric anesthesiologist, you need the fellowship.

What your medical center does for peds case types depends on several things. But at a major university hospital, it would be highly rare to escape from a regular anesthesiology residency without taking care of the sick kids. Most major universities have children's hospitals, hence is the dumping ground for the sickest kids-because the community physicians/hospitals tend to refuse these cases. These cases are for pediatric specialists of all types, including pediatric anesthesiologists, and unless you are doing the fellowship, chances are you won't be doing the Fontan Procedure, or a TAPVR repair (pedi heart surgery) in regular private practice.

In general, at OU, it seems the CRNAs get the tonsil surgery, and the residents here get stuck in the heart room, or the spine/neuro, or the major ENT cases.

Some might argue that unless you are doing the fellowship, a general anesthesiologist should be deft at T&As and BMT-bread and butter cases so to speak.

Now, in response to the above posts, some residency programs have graduated general anesthesiologists who leave feeling 'uncomfortable' with pediatric anesthesia in general. I have an attending from a prominent name program, who scored in the TOP TEN individual scores for the ABA exam, who tells me he had the bare minimum requirement as per the ABA, and now refuses to do any pediatric anesthesia, even with his BC Pedi anesthesiologists nearby.


I will repeat again, for healthy peds, bread and butter cases, you do not need a fellowship, unless you graduate feeling uncomfortable with kids.
 
I disagree that a peds fellowship would be a standard of care at most hospitals.
 
My reason for asking is actually much simpler than that - I'm deciding which programs should get a letter from the peds attending I worked with who writes excellent letters v. which ones should get a letter from somebody else I worked with.

That's why I was primarily interested in their self-estimation more than reality.
 
I think it's much more useful if you get a letter from someone who knows you well and who can write a good letter. I don't think it makes much difference if they're pediatric, cardiac, or internal medicine. Trying to strategize specific letters to specific programs because they're strong in peds doesn't necessarily make much sense. If you want to take advantage of connections, then you need to find out where they know people. I'd much rather see a letter from an internal medicine attending who worked with you for a month, saw you work your ass off, read all the time, and do a stellar job, than an anesthesiologist who worked with you a couple of days.
 
I understand that and agree 100%. My question was to help me decide between two attendings I worked with for a month, who both wrote incredible clerkship comments & who I know both write excellent letters. Basically, everything other than their specialty is the same.
 
I understand that and agree 100%. My question was to help me decide between two attendings I worked with for a month, who both wrote incredible clerkship comments & who I know both write excellent letters. Basically, everything other than their specialty is the same.

For a letter of recommendation, it simply doesn't matter.

The people that read the letter will not care one iota for the relationship between the field of the person writing the letter and the perceived strengths of their program to which you are applying. I don't think it's even a consideration.
 
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