Question about ethnicity

[appthrowaway]

I am 1/4th black, 1/4 Asian indian, and 1/2 Nepali.

On the application part for ethnicity, what do you guys suggest I pick? ( for my MCAT I picked african, Asian indian and typed in Nepali)

I wanna make sure that this is okay for the actual application. IDK the requirements to claim a certain ethniticty. I am not trying to pass of as an URM but simply wanna state my history. ( I also am quite involved with the Black community as I go to an HBCU and also volunteered/participated with the same demograph as well)

thanks guys! Sorta worried I might be considered as being dishonest because I don't look too black but had a black grandfather. and IDK what looking like an Indian consists of. I am brown skinned with black wavy hair.

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[Moko]

I am 1/4th black, 1/4 Asian indian, and 1/2 Nepali.

On the application part for ethnicity, what do you guys suggest I pick? ( for my MCAT I picked african, Asian indian and typed in Nepali)

I wanna make sure that this is okay for the actual application. IDK the requirements to claim a certain ethniticty. I am not trying to pass of as an URM but simply wanna state my history. ( I also am quite involved with the Black community as I go to an HBCU and also volunteered/participated with the same demograph as well)

thanks guys! Sorta worried I might be considered as being dishonest because I don't look too black but had a black grandfather. and IDK what looking like an Indian consists of. I am brown skinned with black wavy hair.

If you need to ask..

 

[gyngyn]

Be authentic.

 

[appthrowaway]

If you need to ask..

I only asked cause of that thread about lying about your ethnicity. Had me worried.

Be authentic.

Roger that. I am gonna stick with what I put for my MCAT because I truly feel I identify and can explain my connection to each of the ethnicities stated.

 

[LizzyM]

WWTD: What would Tiger (Woods) Do?

 

[Lost in Translation]

WWTD: What would Tiger (Woods) Do?

Sleep with beautiful women?

 

[chancemethrowaway]

WWTD: What would Tiger (Woods) Do?

Tiger Woods says that he's Cablinasian. So, OP, I guess you would be Blinepalese. Put Blinepalese.

Every multiracial person gets frustrated by these anachronistic racial categories. I feel your pain, OP.

 

[AlphaBeta<3]

I don't think you should put it.
If you are not culturally affiliated with black people, don't claim to be black.
My grandmother is Cuban, but I don't mark that I'm hispanic.

Edit: I didn't read your whole post, but I still wouldn't put it.

 

[AvacadosAtLaw]

I don't think you should put it.
If you are not culturally affiliated with black people, don't claim to be black.
My grandmother is Cuban, but I don't mark that I'm hispanic.

Edit: I didn't read your whole post, but I still wouldn't put it.

I think it still depends on the person though. I'm 1/4 Hispanic but I'm planning on marking it because it's always been the part of my background that I've identified with the most and had the most interactions with.


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[AlphaBeta<3]

Wouldn't you choose the race that you most genetically affiliated with? Considers ding that one of those is twice as much as the other two.

Also, what does what you do in the black community have to do with anything? And take more details of your description into consideration. Like lip and nose size, ect.Hair doesn't really have to do with anything because simple products can change your hair texture from nappy to loose curly.

What are you even talking about. You know that not all black people have big noses and lips right -.-
Involvement in the black community has to do with everything.

The only reason I'm hesitating to tell him to put it is because only one of his grandparents was black, and I'm not sure if being part black had any part in his identity growing up

 

[AlphaBeta<3]

I think it still depends on the person though. I'm 1/4 Hispanic but I'm planning on marking it because it's always been the part of my background that I've identified with the most and had the most interactions with.


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do you speak spanish and/or practice the culture at home?
Edit: also, what kind of hispanic are you?

 

[Monkey.King]

What are you even talking about. You know that not all black people have big noses and lips right -.-
Involvement in the black community has to do with everything.

The only reason I'm hesitating to tell him to put it is because only one of his grandparents was black, and I'm not sure if being part black had any part in his identity growing up

Don't remember saying that they did. However each race generally had their own characteristics whether you want to admit it or not, which is where stereotypes are born.
And no, involvement in the black community doesn't have to do with anything. If a white person grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood and majority of the people they affiliate themselves with are black, does that make them black? No. You put what you consider your genetics to be.

I think the problem lies on the clarification on what is meant by race. Whether they are talking about genetically or culturally isn't specified, so I think it's meant to be up to the applicants perception to a degree. My opinion anyway

 

[WhittyPsyche]

Wouldn't you choose the race that you most genetically affiliated with? Considers ding that one of those is twice as much as the other two.

Also, what does what you do in the black community have to do with anything? And take more details of your description into consideration. Like lip and nose size, ect.Hair doesn't really have to do with anything because simple products can change your hair texture from nappy to loose curly.

Just. Wow.

 

[ChrisMack390]

Frankly, since you go to an HBCU and have related volunteer experience, I would check black and URM and never look back.

BTW, idk if you've looked at AMCAS yet, but you don't have to just pick 1 ethnicity - you can check off black and asian if you want.

 

[AlphaBeta<3]

Don't remember saying that they did. However each race generally had their own characteristics whether you want to admit it or not, which is where stereotypes are born.
And no, involvement in the black community doesn't have to do with anything. If a white person grew up in a predominantly black neighborhood and majority of the people they affiliate themselves with are black, does that make them black? No. You put what you consider your genetics to be.

I think the problem lies on the clarification on what is meant by race. Whether they are talking about genetically or culturally isn't specified, so I think it's meant to be up to the applicants perception to a degree. My opinion anyway

well that's in the case of a WHITE person. This person is part black, so community involvement is considered.

 

[appthrowaway]

Frankly, since you go to an HBCU and have related volunteer experience, I would check black and URM and never look back.

BTW, idk if you've looked at AMCAS yet, but you don't have to just pick 1 ethnicity - you can check off black and asian if you want.

I havent gotten far enough in the application but is there an URM box? I simply picked asian indian, nepali and black boxes.

 

[appthrowaway]

I don't think you should put it.
If you are not culturally affiliated with black people, don't claim to be black.
My grandmother is Cuban, but I don't mark that I'm hispanic.

Edit: I didn't read your whole post, but I still wouldn't put it.

I read all of your posts and I see where you are coming from. But based on what others have said, I feel like I can defend myself during the interview if they ask why they asked why I picked the black box as well.

Also, for the logic that is being applied, I should exclude asian indian as well correct? Because I am the same amount of black and indian, and both influences were equal ( if anything, more black influence than indian)


Gosh, this is sorta frustrating lol

 

[ChrisMack390]

I havent gotten far enough in the application but is there an URM box? I simply picked asian indian, nepali and black boxes.

I thought I remembered a box asking if you felt that you came from a medical underserved group. You could definitely argue that African Americans fit that category. There is plenty of data about differential medical treatment given to AAs, and areas that have high AA populations tend to be medically underserved (even if where you grew up was not).

 

[ZedsDed]

I love how even when Lee outright bans arguments over URM politics in pre-allo, we still see multiple discussions pop up organically every week.

 

[OchemOficionado]

Wouldn't you choose the race that you most genetically affiliated with? Considers ding that one of those is twice as much as the other two.

Also, what does what you do in the black community have to do with anything? And take more details of your description into consideration. Like lip and nose size, ect.Hair doesn't really have to do with anything because simple products can change your hair texture from nappy to loose curly.

Eww.
Stereotypes are considered bad for a reason.
*kinky to loose curly

 

[terra330]

I love how even when Lee outright bans arguments over URM politics in pre-allo, we still see multiple discussions pop up organically every week.

Technically he made "anti-diversity" threads against the rules. This isn't one of those.

 

[ZedsDed]

Technically he made "anti-diversity" threads against the rules. This isn't one of those.

Yeah, I still don't really know what that means. Regardless, if his problem is with people who criticize AA, they are an inevitable consequence of any thread that discusses these contentious issues.

 

[LizzyM]

I thought I remembered a box asking if you felt that you came from a medical underserved group. You could definitely argue that African Americans fit that category. There is plenty of data about differential medical treatment given to AAs, and areas that have high AA populations tend to be medically underserved (even if where you grew up was not).

Medical shortage area is different. It isn't about race, it is about whether, based on your experience and that of your family, there were shortages of providers in your geographic area. If you couldn't find a primary care provider within 50 miles of home, or you had to wait 6 months for an appointment with a specialist, you might be living in a shortage area. Even some geographic areas with multiple medical schools have shortages of primary care providers (e.g. Manhattan). When you print out your AMCAS application, you may see a (R) for rural and/or (U) for underserved after the name of the city in a couple of places on the application. AMCAS self-populates that based on a database but they also want to know if you perceived a shortage, even if the US government has not.

 

[AlphaBeta<3]

" I should exclude asian indian as well correct? "
No...why would you exclude Asian, which you're 3/4ths of, but put black....I feel like you're just trying to have some type of racial advantage, and it'll probably not work out for you.

 

[appthrowaway]

" I should exclude asian indian as well correct? "
No...why would you exclude Asian, which you're 3/4ths of, but put black....I feel like you're just trying to have some type of racial advantage, and it'll probably not work out for you.

According to your logic, since I am only 1/4th black , I shouldn't bother stating it.

What I am saying is this: since I am also 1/4 asian indian, I shouldn't bother stating it.

So I should only list nepali.

( I am not gonna do this btw)

 

[AlphaBeta<3]

According to your logic, since I am only 1/4th black , I shouldn't bother stating it.

What I am saying is this: since I am also 1/4 asian indian, I shouldn't bother stating it.

So I should only list nepali.

( I am not gonna do this btw)

Well, regardless, it's counted as Asian. So if you want to say "African and Asian" then do it

 

[WedgeDawg]

Hi everyone, just wanted to leave a gentle reminder here of the new pre-allo rules regarding discussion of anti-diversity topics:

Just as we do not tolerate MD v DO threads, we do not tolerate anti-diversity threads in the pre-medical forum. These will be closed or moved to the Sociopolitical Forum.

Why? Anti-diversity threads are not helpful in the discussion of how to get into medical school. Medical students are not selected by LizzyM score alone. The academic community has an obligation to build a diverse physician workforce for the health of our nation. Therefore, medical schools choose applicants based on grades, MCATs, history and background.

(original post here: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...ers-and-sdn-membership.1176729/#post-17630385)

 

[ZedsDed]

Hi everyone, just wanted to leave a gentle reminder here of the new pre-allo rules regarding discussion of anti-diversity topics:


(original post here: http://forums.studentdoctor.net/thr...ers-and-sdn-membership.1176729/#post-17630385)

Wedge, what do you guys mean by "anti-diversity?" I'm not trying to be annoying, I just genuinely find it to be an ambiguous term.

 

[WedgeDawg]

Wedge, what do you guys mean by "anti-diversity?" I'm not trying to be annoying, I just genuinely find it to be an ambiguous term.

I'm probably not the best person to answer this question, but generally threads suggesting diversity isn't an important aspect of medical education, etc are no longer permitted because they inevitably turn into a huge mess that we end up having to clean up.

 

[ZedsDed]

I'm probably not the best person to answer this question, but generally threads suggesting diversity isn't an important aspect of medical education, etc are no longer permitted because they inevitably turn into a huge mess that we end up having to clean up.

Ok cool, thanks for answering. I'll leave you alone now

 

[Technology]

You're (significantly) genetically black! So mark black!!!!!

 

[ZedsDed]

You're (significantly) genetically black! So mark black!!!!!

That make too much sense. I think we should pointlessly argue about it some more.

 

[Goro]

Sadly, there are too many pre-meds who think that they have a God-given right to a seat in medical school on the basis of high stats only.

Wedge, what do you guys mean by "anti-diversity?" I'm not trying to be annoying, I just genuinely find it to be an ambiguous term.

 

[Espressso]

I think questions concerning race and ethnicity during the application cycle are much simpler than many pre-medical students make it out to be. The AAMC descriptions are straight forward. Just be honest!