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This post strikes me as a little weird. You applied to DO schools, got accepted, but still do not know about matriculating? If you really didn't want to attend a DO school, as per your question suggests, why would you waste the money on applying to them? I guess you need to think about what your actual question is regarding why you are worried about attending a DO school.
Remember, med school is what you make of it. The product of what you get out of it is all about the effort you are willing to put in to. Everybody studies for the same boards, more than half of the DO students take the USMLEs and enter into allo residencies.
I panicked when I got my MCAT scores back and just applied to a bunch of DO schools. To be honest, getting into a MD school was my first-choice.
Hello,
I am deciding between reapplying to med schools this year and retaking the MCAT or attending a DO school.
I attended a top 10 UG and my overall AMCAS GPA was a 3.66, my BCPM GPA was a 3.63. I took the MCAT in September 2010 and received a 9 BS, 9 PS, 8 VR. I didn't get a chance to retake the MCAT before applying since I took the MCAT in September. My AMCAS and AACOMAS was processed in September.
I have been accepted to several DO schools to start in Fall 2011. My question is, should I take the DO school or study and retake the MCAT in May or June and apply to MD schools for Fall 2012? I will be turning 25 in a couple of months and if I put off med school for another year, I will be 26 when I start, so that's another concern of mine.
Please let me know what you think, thanks!
With your undergrad GPA and the big name of your alma mater, you will have a very good shot at American M.D.-granting schools.
The only thing holding you back (temporarily) is the MCAT. Do well on it (minimum 30, ideally 32+) and you will be in very good shape.
Don't retake the MCAT until you're comfortably in the 30's on practice tests, even if this takes a while.
Don't go to DO school.
Don't go to DO school.
But would it be worth it to waste a year? If you score really high on the COMLEX/USMLE, you will have as good opportunities from DO as a lower-tier MD school, right? Assuming I get a 29 or 30 on my retake, I would only be able to get into low-tier MD schools anyway. I am interested in internal medicine, emergency medicine or radiology. If I did internal medicine, I would like to do cardiology and I believe osteopathic schools have their own osteopathic cardiology fellowships?
Take the DO acceptance...as you seem to already know 26 years of age is far too old to just be starting medical school.
Hello,
I am deciding between reapplying to med schools this year and retaking the MCAT or attending a DO school.
I attended a top 10 UG and my overall AMCAS GPA was a 3.66, my BCPM GPA was a 3.63. I took the MCAT in September 2010 and received a 9 BS, 9 PS, 8 VR. I didn't get a chance to retake the MCAT before applying since I took the MCAT in September. My AMCAS and AACOMAS was processed in September.
I have been accepted to several DO schools to start in Fall 2011. My question is, should I take the DO school or study and retake the MCAT in May or June and apply to MD schools for Fall 2012? I will be turning 25 in a couple of months and if I put off med school for another year, I will be 26 when I start, so that's another concern of mine.
Please let me know what you think, thanks!
Putting off med school for a year not only means putting off your life for a year but also means losing out on a year of attending's salary.
Could there be some advantages to getting into an MD school? Perhaps for some specialties (like someone who seriously wants to go into Rad Onc for example). But for most people, it won't make that much of a difference.
If you end up going to a med school you're "overqualified" for, that just means you should be able to be one of the top students there. The top people in the class at any school should do well for themselves.
As much as being a DO vs MD seems to matter to pre-meds, med students, and a minority of residency programs, once you're in residency or an attending, nobody notices or cares. Heck, the EMR and hospital ID badge I have for one of our hospitals lists "MD" as my title by default because nobody really cares.
Take the DO acceptance...as you seem to already know 26 years of age is far too old to just be starting medical school.
26 is too old, there are people literally dying to get a DO slot and start their medical careers. If you want to stick with Internal medicine than DO is most definitely a very good choice. I would suggest NOT wasting an entire year. The problem with this is that what IF you don't get into an MD school next year not only will you have wasted an entire year but added an extra year to your burden (make that a waste of 2 years) and you will be totally shut off from the DO world. Once DO schools find out that you got accepted and rejected the offer you can forget ever getting accepted to DO schools. How do I know this? well a good friend of mine was in your situation unfortunately for him he can't go back into DO schools and now is stuck doing an extra 2 year MASTERS program on top of wasting that one extra year. You're getting old like me and you have a wonderful opportunity make the best out of it and accept the DO seat seriously! You will be able to get an internal medicine residency easily as a DO or MD. For you to get into an upper tier MD school were talking about 34+ it's not worth the risk man especially not at this stage of your life.
I doubt this is absolutely true (although it may be true for your friend) I think dropping an acceptance prior to matriculation is not as big of a deal as some make it seem. .
It is 100% true, the ONE and only most DO schools care about is :WHY DO?
If you had an offer and decided to turn it down rather than be a DO, there is NO WAY you could ever give a convincing answer for Why DO other than "I think it might be ok since I tried twice and couldn't be a real doctor".
As others have said, either you want to be a Dr, or you don't. Frankly, I personally hope you don't take it, leave the medical school seat for someone who wants it!
BTW, anyone 26 now was still in high school when I earned my Masters degree so to say a 26yr old is somehow too old is laughable
The fact that you are saying reapply to med school or take a DO spot as if the former is superior to the latter in any way shape or form disgusts me. Please, don't take the spot and go to PA school instead then when your rounding in the hospital you can look at the D.O. on my coat and say to yourself, well I stood proud and didn't take a lowly DO spot but in the end I still have to call him doctor and take his orders. Idiot pre-meds not wanting to stain their reputations by going to DO school despite the 2 degrees being 100% equal when your applying for your license to practice medicine. I have clasmates who got interviews for EM at Harvard, Yale, Carolinas and Stanford. Friends who interviewed for Rads at UCSF and Duke. If you work your ass off and rock your boards and have good letters there wil be no closed doors to you. Stop giving ****ty advice to people when you know nothing about the world of medicine as you have barely finished college, if that. Disgusting trolls.
I think you are a fool. That's what I think. Drop the DO acceptance and reapply MD, but remember not to reapply DO.
EMT2ER is a DO student, I believe...
Thats even worse. Please don't give people advice not to pursue our degree because you are unhappy with it and feel inferior to our allopathic counterparts. The rest of us are proud and do not feel lesser.
EMT2ER is a condescending prick who feels he is superior because his initials are MD and mine are DO.
Thats even worse. Please don't give people advice not to pursue our degree because you are unhappy with it and feel inferior to our allopathic counterparts. The rest of us are proud and do not feel lesser.
Uhhh, I think you have me mixed up with someone else. I was talking about the OP not you for starters. I was being very, very, very sarcastic to the OP because he/she is the kind of person I do NOT want representing my profession.
Secondly, I am a 4th year DO student and I could not be prouder to be one in the very near future. I have done much to promote the DO profession and could not think about being any other type of physician. And I have also spoke to pre meds about being a DO and the great things about it.
My residency in an AOA approved residency and would not have it any other way.
I think you mistook what I said to the OP as negative towards the DO profession, which is farther from the truth. As a I said before, I was being sarcastic to the OP who does not deserve to be accepted to any DO school.
I go to a DO school and am perfectly content with my education, however, I can't blame you for wanting to aim higher. If you really want the MD, why don't you defer for a year and while sitting out, take the MCAT and reapply MD. If you get into an allopathic school, you can then drop the DO seat.
Also, believe it or not, I think even if you drop the DO seat right now just to take a chance on MD schools, you can still get into a DO school if you reapplied. Read these forums, there are people here who actually failed out, yes FAILED OUT of DO schools, yet were able to get acceptance to other DO schools. Also, there's a guy in my class who either dropped out from an MD school. So I think even if you took a chance and reapplied at a later time, you can still get in.
I was wondering if you have heard of anyone who did take your suggestion and defer a DO for a year to reapply for MD? They did offer me delayed admission (for next year) a month ago but have just taken me off the waitlist. I am worry that my DO school might get mad at me for deferring and applying to MD programs instead?
what are your stats like?
33 mcat, 2.9 undergrad gpa (2.8 science), 3.6 grad gpa (drexel ihs post-bacc), 3.5 columbia nutrition ms.
First of all, forget this "lower-tier MD" nonsense. Any US MD school will be respected by residency program directors and by your colleagues, and will give you an opportunity to match into ANY field you want.
You say now that you're interested in IM, EM, or rads-- but what if you change your mind? There are virtually entire fields that are closed off to DO's who want to do an allopathic residency. You can forget about Integrated Plastic Surgery, ENT, Urology, Neurosurgery, Radiation Oncology and Dermatology.
Same for middle-upper and upper tier programs in less competitive specialties, like General Surgery and Internal Medicine. Some programs (NYU IM comes to mind) explicitly state that they do not even look at DO applicants.
The large university program where I will start IM residency this June, has exactly 0 DO's in an incoming intern class of ~60 people.
WTF??? 26 is too old????? My medical school class (including myself) were students mostly OVER 30, some were over 40. I better get off this thread before I say something that gets me banned from the site. Jeez
33 mcat, 2.9 undergrad gpa (2.8 science), 3.6 grad gpa (drexel ihs post-bacc), 3.5 columbia nutrition ms.
33 mcat, 2.9 undergrad gpa (2.8 science), 3.6 grad gpa (drexel ihs post-bacc), 3.5 columbia nutrition ms.
Apply Allo, if you get in you get in, depends on how long you have to wait to get what you want, you will get it though. As for DO, it's not for sure, but of course you got the ability to do really well there if they take you. You could go to the caribbean. Lot of sub 3.0 type people get into DO, maybe possibly that GPA is higher depending on how it would be calculated, with retakes, "other science" included with the science GPA for DO, and no math calculated into it. It is my wild guess though that the 33 MCAT will shoot you right in the door of a DO school first time around. From there you could pretty much do whatever specialty you want. The only thing I don't like about DO is the OMM training, which I would not intend to use in my future practice of medicine. If I may ask, how old are you? I'm doing post-bacc now myself while getting an MS in Biomedical Engineering.
Someone apparently doesn't know that an AOA match exists.First of all, forget this "lower-tier MD" nonsense. Any US MD school will be respected by residency program directors and by your colleagues, and will give you an opportunity to match into ANY field you want. You say now that you're interested in IM, EM, or rads-- but what if you change your mind? There are virtually entire fields that are closed off to DO's who want to do an allopathic residency. You can forget about Integrated Plastic Surgery, ENT, Urology, Neurosurgery, Radiation Oncology and Dermatology. Same for middle-upper and upper tier programs in less competitive specialties, like General Surgery and Internal Medicine. Some programs (NYU IM comes to mind) explicitly state that they do not even look at DO applicants. The large university program where I will start IM residency this June, has exactly 0 DO's in an incoming intern class of ~60 people. Want to do cards? Well, where do you think cardiology programs get their fellows? From the same programs where you will likely be unable to go as a DO.
Why make life so much harder on yourself?
Focus on the MCAT. Don't know how you prepped the first time, but all of your resources need to be focused on KILLING this test. None of this 29-30 talk. If you managed to get into a top 10 undergrad, you can do MUCH better than that.
Finishing med school at age 30 isn't that unusual BTW. That leaves a lot of time to have an amazing career.
Good luck to you.
Apply Allo, if you get in you get in, depends on how long you have to wait to get what you want, you will get it though. As for DO, it's not for sure, but of course you got the ability to do really well there if they take you. You could go to the caribbean. Lot of sub 3.0 type people get into DO, maybe possibly that GPA is higher depending on how it would be calculated, with retakes, "other science" included with the science GPA for DO, and no math calculated into it. It is my wild guess though that the 33 MCAT will shoot you right in the door of a DO school first time around. From there you could pretty much do whatever specialty you want. The only thing I don't like about DO is the OMM training, which I would not intend to use in my future practice of medicine. If I may ask, how old are you? I'm doing post-bacc now myself while getting an MS in Biomedical Engineering.