This is my first trip into the board and I wonder if anyone would be interested in a general thread on research, trials and EBP. Just to set the scene I will make a first post.
1. Medical research is a difficult area because on the one hand it offers so much value and the other when things go wrong so much damage. One can point at huge advances made and the practical eradication of many diseases. However, things have gone wrong and one only has to consider thalidomide or say the use of cardiac anti-arrhythmic drugs which are known to have cost more American lives than the Vietnam war. (See "When Doctors Kill: why and how", by Joshua Perper and Stephen Cina)
2. It is also sadly true that in scientific research there have been many many cases of fraud or misconduct. In fact Professor David Goodstein from California Institute of Technology in a recent book shows that most scientific fraud or misconduct cases involve biological science with medical doctors disproportionately represented in these cases. (See "On Fact and Fraud" by David Goodstein, Princeton Press.
3. There are many reasons for what I have said in item 2 but for the purposes of this thread I will point out three and in subsequent posts elaborate on them.
1. Medical research is a difficult area because on the one hand it offers so much value and the other when things go wrong so much damage. One can point at huge advances made and the practical eradication of many diseases. However, things have gone wrong and one only has to consider thalidomide or say the use of cardiac anti-arrhythmic drugs which are known to have cost more American lives than the Vietnam war. (See "When Doctors Kill: why and how", by Joshua Perper and Stephen Cina)
2. It is also sadly true that in scientific research there have been many many cases of fraud or misconduct. In fact Professor David Goodstein from California Institute of Technology in a recent book shows that most scientific fraud or misconduct cases involve biological science with medical doctors disproportionately represented in these cases. (See "On Fact and Fraud" by David Goodstein, Princeton Press.
3. There are many reasons for what I have said in item 2 but for the purposes of this thread I will point out three and in subsequent posts elaborate on them.
Scientific Method - over centuries experimental methods and principles have been developed and these must be thoroughly learned and it takes a long to to learn and practice them. Indeed it is only when you do real work that its main points begin to sink in and getting to that point with humility is central to developing your research potential.
Ethics - in all science there is an ethical dimension and it has to be thought through with considerable care. In medical research it is paramount for obvious reasons. Indeed a large number of both fraud and misconduct cases can be traced to poor ethical standards.
Statistics - when one begins statistics it can seem quite easy but this is a false assumption and unless you really know what you are doing you can make horrendous blunders. These days we have SSPS and Excel so given a set of data one can generate a whole raft of statistics with zero effort. However, like any science, all statistics are hedged about with conditions and limits so interpretation of what you have been given is likely to be very hard EVEN if you are expert. Statistics is ultimately based on probabilities and everyone have difficulty in that area.
Sadly, the literature is legion with cases of scientific blunders because researchers do not understand what they are doing. For example, there are many cased where researchers confused correlation and regression, were selective in what data points they used, collected the wrong data and so on. So what we have to say here is NOT simple and if your are to get any benefit you will have to work hard. To give a simple example, suppose my risk of stroke is assessed as 12% and my doctor tells me that if I take a statin it will reduce my risk by 16% (we will not complicate it by adding in side effects). Almost no one outside of a numerate discipline can explain why your new level of risk if you take the statin is 10%.
It is also uncomfortably true that even the best researchers sometimes get over-confident, not to say arrogant, and try to go it alone and do not get advice from a competent statistician - that is unforgivable and may amount to misconduct.
Ethics - in all science there is an ethical dimension and it has to be thought through with considerable care. In medical research it is paramount for obvious reasons. Indeed a large number of both fraud and misconduct cases can be traced to poor ethical standards.
Statistics - when one begins statistics it can seem quite easy but this is a false assumption and unless you really know what you are doing you can make horrendous blunders. These days we have SSPS and Excel so given a set of data one can generate a whole raft of statistics with zero effort. However, like any science, all statistics are hedged about with conditions and limits so interpretation of what you have been given is likely to be very hard EVEN if you are expert. Statistics is ultimately based on probabilities and everyone have difficulty in that area.
Sadly, the literature is legion with cases of scientific blunders because researchers do not understand what they are doing. For example, there are many cased where researchers confused correlation and regression, were selective in what data points they used, collected the wrong data and so on. So what we have to say here is NOT simple and if your are to get any benefit you will have to work hard. To give a simple example, suppose my risk of stroke is assessed as 12% and my doctor tells me that if I take a statin it will reduce my risk by 16% (we will not complicate it by adding in side effects). Almost no one outside of a numerate discipline can explain why your new level of risk if you take the statin is 10%.
It is also uncomfortably true that even the best researchers sometimes get over-confident, not to say arrogant, and try to go it alone and do not get advice from a competent statistician - that is unforgivable and may amount to misconduct.