Do you know the numbers first-hand, or is this all speculation? Remember, what applicants say on the trail may not actually be based on fact. Perhaps there is a reason why so many Wilmer residents stay on for retina fellowship. Do you think it is because a Wilmer resident can't get any other fellowships out there? Also, when it is time to get a job, who do you think is going to get the job, the guy who went to a lesser named place with higher volume or the graduate from the place you are bashing? Remember, a big part of getting a good job is by getting the lowdown about the person from the attendings. Which would be more impressive, a stellar rec from an unknown attending, or one (or ten) from a bigwig attending? I know many fellows that came from that goofy place in Baltimore, and I think they are doing fine for themselves. Oh, and their surgical numbers were pretty good, too.