Send your parents to a retirement home?

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What are you going to do with your parents when they grow old. This seems like a daunting prospect for the majority of seniors in this country. Anybody have strong opinions on this issue. Personally, I find it inhumane to send the elderly to retirement homes(horrible conditions).

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I agree that a retirement home certainly wouldn't be my first option. I know my parents would want to live on thier own as long as possible, and after that I hope they live with me or one of my sisters. However, in some cases I think its better to have them in a retirement home, like if they have severe alzheimers or some other condition that requires them to have constant care, because I would be unable to provide it. But, as my parents are only 40 and 48, I think I have plenty of time :)
 
ma and pops are moving in!! They wiped my a$$ when I was bald and toothless, and I'll return the favor when they are.
 
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Have to agree. They are moving in as soon as they please. Parents don't raise you so you can ship them to retirement homes when they are old.
 
Ill probably just hire a food/maid service for them instead of a retirement home.
 
Hire a french maid for my dad and then he'll be well enough to take care of my mom...

If not, I'll figure out every way possible to keep them out of a retirement home. The ones I have been to are like a dump.
 
i'm really impressed someone started this thread. without any doubt at all, my parents will be with me...they can do whatever they want, as long as they want, but i'll always be there to take them in when they need me. if i have the financial means, i will hire someone just for them (when they are much much older of course)...i know plenty of docs who have done this. i even know someone who installed an elevator just for his parents in his own home!
 
but what about the mothers- and fathers-in-law??? :scared:
 
I'd like for my parents to be able to have their own place so they can do their own thing and arrange things the way they like it. If they need nursing care I'll hire someone to stay with them in their home. That can be tricky, though. My grandmother had a woman who was living with her and taking care of her, and the woman took my grandmother's car and left for several days. My grandmother was in very poor health and she was alone until my aunt and uncle could get to her. I just want to present another side of the issue - sometimes there are problems with in home care as well as nursing homes.
 
I wouldn't necessarily write off all long term care facilities as depressing and to be avoided at all costs. Many are, to be sure, but there are some assisted living facilities out there which do a very good job (given the circumstances) of maintaining the dignity of their residents.

If your parents are in good health, then of course, it's great to keep them at home. But if they're paralyzed after a stroke, for example, or suffering from Alzheimer's disease, it is just very difficult and impractical to keep them at home. I say this after much experience, sad to say.
 
It's so sad to think about! I would like to avoid retirement homes at all costs, but I know sometimes it gets really hard....I've watched my parents deal with it for THEIR parents and I think it is heartbreaking. :confused:
 
In my culture (Mexican), sending your parents off to a nursing home is almost unheard of. I feel strongly about this... it's nothing less than one's duty to take care of them.

My mother went from being a strong, dignified independent woman (the first female valedictorian graduating with a law degree from a private university in Guadalajara--all on scholarships and work since she was dirt-poor) to being completely vulnerable due to diabetes. She had it for 30 years and did fine the whole time...taking good care of herself. She never took a vacation, traveled or did any of the things she wanted to do because she was saving it all for retirement. She retired and BOOM! In one month she lost her eyesight and her kidney function.

I brought her to live with me and (while I was raising my own kids as a single mom, and working full time) I took care of EVERYTHING for her. And I mean EVERYTHING. I bathed her, dressed her, fed her, gave her insulin shots, dispensed her other 17 medications, transported her to her numerous appointments, helped her with legal, business, medical matters, gosh... everything. It was hard, but I wasn't about to let her go to a nursing home. When I burned out (about a year), my sister took over... and when she burned out, my brother took over. Then my mom was diagnosed with uterine cancer... aggressive. Pobrecita. I can still hear her crying on the phone when she called me to tell me at work--my mother RARELY cried. My heart breaks just to remember it. We were ready to begin the rotation with me again (it's just three of us, brother, sister and me), when my mom suffered a devastating heart attack and left us on March 24th of this year.

She suffered so much... but I'm so glad we were always there WITH her... I held her hand when she was biopsied for cancer, we sat and read to her, we listened to her incredible stories of struggle and accomplishment when she was younger. It was never easy--I remember feeling trapped at times... no time to go out and have fun or feel free for a moment... but I'm so happy... I'm so PROUD that between my brother, my sister and I, we made sure she was with family until the very end.
 
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Well, I wanted to post on this issue, b/c I volunteer for both an Alzheimer's unit and a nursing home. I'll start by relating what I did today at the nursing home to just give a sense of how "pleasant" it is. Well, I was going to play my routine game of cards with one of the residents. Something seemed odd. There was a nose-burning odor filling the room. What was it? You guessed it, feces. Was the toilet clogged? No, the resident is unable to get off his bed, so he has to defecate in his trousers. I guess this is as embarassing as the ever-haunting nightmare of being naked in front of the class. Come to think of it, I'd take nudity before defecation any day. What was bad is that since they had already given him his shower, he has to wait until all the residents take theirs. I was there for about 1 hour, and they still weren't through.

And this is just one story. I have a ton more that would scare anyone who didn't want their parents living in a prison for the last minutes of their lives.

Some may say, what about those with Dimensia/Alzheimers. Their units were so much better. It was basically like living in a home with a wooden fence that has no doors. Yeah, you read it right. They are confined in their living quarters due to their inability to function properly in the real world. Some can speak, hear, and appear as "normal" as your next door neighbor that decides to mow the lawn at 7am.

Oh, here is a really interesting story. It turns out that the resident I care for at the ACU was put in due to his hallucinations. Due to these drastic visions, his family decided to put him in. Well, after some clever thinking from his nurse, she decided to get him off all the medication he was on prior to his hallucinations. She said that he hasn't really had any problems after that. The nurse told me this after I asked why it was he was put in there. The reason I asked is b/c he really was a normal person. I used to test him. Ask him questions of where everything is. We play cards, and amazingly, he beats the hell out of me. So, there is a pretty good bit of intelligence. My hunch was right; he was normal. It was just the meds causing the hallucinations.

Pretty sad if you ask me. Actually, this subject is so serious that I don't even want to think about my parents in that situation, nonetheless planning what I would do. Working there has taught me that life is fragile. All life is fragile. If we as humans, as kind, caring spirits, can't help each other, then we will all suffer alone waiting for the nurse to come clean our ass. Also, the reason I'm refering to them as residents is confedentiality. I hope these stories didn't disturb anyone. The nurses and staff are great. I look up to them for the sacrifice they've made by working there. I also don't feel the need to blame anyone for putting their close-ones there. It's life. We make it what we want it to be. Too bad we as a whole chose harsh.

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there is no doubt that right thing to do is to invite them so that they will live with you.

However, if your parents are suffering from Alzheimer's or other diseases than it is better that they get professional help.

My gradmother suffers from Alzheimer's and is in a special care housing program.

Now I have to say that my parents are really wonderful people but they could not help her anymore.

She would constantly accuse people of stealing, or that she saw dead people. She would also wipe her feces on the wall and in the room.

Alzheimer's is a horrible disease and hopefully one of you SDNers solve this problem.
 
dude, I would get my ass kicked if I sent anyone off to a retirement home.

I think my mother is probably going to a) either live very nearby (no more than 1-2 blocks away) or b) live with me (and obviously my wife). I wouldn't send anyone to a retirement home though. I think those people are pretty lonely. It's like you're being isolated from just about everyone. Almost like a mental institution, just not as bad.

Different cultures have a different way of doing things, though. Most Asians with live with their immediate and extended families all in the same home. I think it's awfully nice to have that kind of company and support. I'm also South Asian, so there's no real big difference there.

I personally would not want to live in a retirement home, ever. I'd rather live by myself if I had to.
 
one interesting thing is that retirement homes are not as bad as people think. Of course, you need money to get into a good one in Florida and California.

One shocking thing is that currently health care people are alarmed that so many of our grandparents living in retirement homes are getting STDs, especially HIV and gonorrhea.

Because of Viagra, Levitra (studied to last for 8hrs folks, wow) and other erectile drugs, older people are shagging like crazy.


I feel like such a loser now. I need a girlfriend.
 
All my preconceived notions about nursing homes disappeared when we had to care for my 86-y.o. grandfather.

My grandfather lived in a publicly funded nursing home in Canada. For $2500/month he had a private room, someone to toilet him, 2 people to pick him up if he fell, 3 nutritious (he liked institutional food) meals a day, and his helpers were generally loving, kind, and never felt they were giving up their lives in order to take care of him. If they burned out, there was someone else to take their place. The nurses were wonderful.

Grandpa lived much longer than anyone expected. People in the family had tried to care for him at home, and had given up. There is no doubt in my mind that he had a better social environment, and better physical and emotional care, than we could ever have provided for him for the 8 years he was in the home.

When someone goes to a nursing home, you can go and visit them 16 hours a day if you like. You can eat meals with them, talk with them, watch TV with them, everything. And you can go home at night without worrying that they will fall on the way to the bathroom and you won't be able to lift a 200-lb person off the floor at 3 a.m. My grandfather had a girlfriend within 2 weeks of moving in; he loved to be wheeled down to the lounge for a gin and tonic at the afternoon happy hour.

A nursing home is not a prison.
 
uclakid said:
i'm really impressed someone started this thread. without any doubt at all, my parents will be with me...they can do whatever they want, as long as they want, but i'll always be there to take them in when they need me. if i have the financial means, i will hire someone just for them (when they are much much older of course)...i know plenty of docs who have done this. i even know someone who installed an elevator just for his parents in his own home!
What this guy said. :thumbup:
 
superunknown said:
ma and pops are moving in!! They wiped my a$$ when I was bald and toothless, and I'll return the favor when they are.

amen to that!
 
You know I never understood this. Personally, I love my parents they have always helped and supported me in every way and have been an outstanding influence in my life. I would never even consider it an option for me because I feel like they put in time and effort when I was little and they deserve the same from me. I would love them to move in but if they were totally against it they would have to live really really close by. If things were horrible I would hire help if I couldn't handle it on my own but I wanna give back to them. Send 'um on trips and stuff so they can rest easy they totally deserve it.
 
Chankovsky said:
What are you going to do with your parents when they grow old. This seems like a daunting prospect for the majority of seniors in this country. Anybody have strong opinions on this issue. Personally, I find it inhumane to send the elderly to retirement homes(horrible conditions).


Are you kidding me? Is there a choice? Those bastards are going to regret not letting me get a dog when I was eight, when I send 'em into a HOME the first chance I get!
 
hy2026 said:
One shocking thing is that currently health care people are alarmed that so many of our grandparents living in retirement homes are getting STDs, especially HIV and gonorrhea.

Because of Viagra, Levitra (studied to last for 8hrs folks, wow) and other erectile drugs, older people are shagging like crazy.


I feel like such a loser now. I need a girlfriend.

Haha, I guess when I am 90 I am going to be a pimp once again.
 
It really depends on the home. My great aunt moved in a few months ago, and she's having the time of her life. at 76, she's the second-youngest in the place and is getting all the attention :laugh: There's so much socialization there, it's like she's back in middle school again. It's nearby the rest of my family so they can visit whenever they want. They take care of everything she needs - cooking, cleaning, they'll come in and hang pictures for her...you name it. Homes aren't all like the stereotype.
 
WalterSobchakk said:
It really depends on the home. My great aunt moved in a few months ago, and she's having the time of her life. at 76, she's the second-youngest in the place and is getting all the attention :laugh: There's so much socialization there, it's like she's back in middle school again. It's nearby the rest of my family so they can visit whenever they want. They take care of everything she needs - cooking, cleaning, they'll come in and hang pictures for her...you name it. Homes aren't all like the stereotype.

Agreed. There is a LOT of variation in quality. I think a lot of the horror stories we hear result from families not taking the time to find a good, reputable facility, not being willing to pay for this kind of facility, and not visiting, basically dumping their loved ones somewhere. Even in the same home, you will find that some people are in a better situation than others because their relatives provide different levels of attention. I think a lot of people who say they would never put a relative in a nursing home haven't had to deal with a relative who needed such high levels of nursing care. I have had three grandparents in nursing homes, and my maternal grandmother had home care and hospice before she went into the nursing home, so I am willing to admit that there are some situations in which it should be considered. My grandfather, for instance, threatened to kill people when he was sick. He also needed a lot of medical attention. My grandmother would have had to hire round-the-clock nurses as well as security guards in order to have him stay at home. My grandmother was a very private person, and she probably wouldn't have felt comfortable having all of these people in her home. As I have already mentioned, this same grandmother was abandoned by the woman who was supposed to care for her in her home. After she got really sick and stayed in hospice for a while (which, by the way, is an excellent alternative for those who are terminally ill and rapidly declining), she did not want to go back to her home. Even if the person who cares for you does their job right, there can be a lot of tension from having someone employed in your home, caring for you all the time - they get stressed out, you feel like they're invading your home, messing around with things, etc. And if you are very sick and require a lot of nursing care, sometimes it's nearly impossible for one or a few people to handle, and also if there's an emergency you're depending on one person to handle it, and that can be frightening. As for having family members take care of you, some people are just not comfortable with their children taking care of them. I know my grandmother wasn't. Like I said, she was a very private, dignified person and she felt embarassed when her children and grandchildren saw her get sick or had to take care of her.

Anyway, this is not always as simple as it sounds. I would like to avoid sending my parents to a nursing home, but if worse came to worse, I would consider it.
 
as a physician, I should be able to have a big enough house to accomodate my parents or husband's parents. I could create their own section for them in my house, even their own kitchen and stuff, if they are capable of cooking, and want to make their own meals.
Even if they were dying, they'll still be taken care of.
In my culture(Nigerian), nursing homes are unheard of, either the old ones stay in their own house, and have family members move in, or they move
in/rotate between family members

As a lil kid, I remember going to my granddad's house and seeing his mother there, she was very old, well to my lil self she was. Infact they had to clean and bathe her, and she acted like a lil kid, but no one ever complained, it wasnt just the right thing to do, it was the ONLY thing to do.
 
superunknown said:
ma and pops are moving in!! They wiped my a$$ when I was bald and toothless, and I'll return the favor when they are.


BIG THUMBS UP :thumbup: :thumbup:

Totally agree...

-Harps
 
lotanna said:
as a physician, I should be able to have a big enough house to accomodate my parents or husband's parents.

Exactly! :thumbup:
 
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