Not exactly. But read into it as you like. All I was trying to point out but you have ignored with every post is that I would rather have interaction with a real patient than a simulated one. Would you not? Again I would like to know the answer to a question you dodge, did you perform all those things you listed skin to skin? I will say again, I think you can get a great education at most any of the schools. I never bagged on DMU as a bad school, they are just the opposite but it seems like none of the DMU people will acknowledge that their school has any flaws.
Your guess?
I'll ask again. Do you believe that simulated patient experience at DMU is what prepared you so well for clerkships and residency? I'm not asking to imply they are not a good teaching school, I am just curious to an honest perspective on the experience.
Thats a big selling point for DMU. Residency is no doubt the name of the game when it comes to jobs. But because they are doing clerkships their entire 4th year does not mean other schools are not getting the exact same amount of clinic exposure. At other schools, you rotate through their hospitals, etc while mixing in clerkships. Personally, I prefer DMU's model better but whether it is actually better is up for debate but I think it is a nice advantage for the students.
You named 3 students, I will even make it 4 from reading JonWill's posts. Interept my posts as you like but I was not trying to take a shot at DMU. I just find it annoying that because Temple students (a significant amount at least) do not regularly post and DMU and to an extent Scholl dominate in the number of posts that the schools are seen as flawless. Every school has flaws and every school has it advantages. Lastly I think students pay to much attention to facilities. Have a brand new Anatomy lab like DMU or a almost new lab like Scholl is nice but the fact remains that you are still learning anatomy the exact same way just about every other pod student or MD or DO student across the country is. We all study from basically the same books. The quality of professors are not equal though. The enviroment in which one needs to succeed are not equal. Lets also realize that the percentage of students/doctors/people posting on this site represent a very small fraction of who is actually out there at the schools and working in the real world.
First and foremost, this is what I was trying to avoid hijacking the thread. Second, you are sadly mistaken if you think that DMU students do not criticize our school and you have not read all of my posts. I will not waste everyones time by listing the numerous flaws with the schools, so please re-read my 2000+ posts or PM me for further discussion. My post as I have stated before was to keep everyone honest and attempted to get you to right your ship.
Next, where you say I dodged your question and I did not read your post. Did you read it?
I assume you are implying that you did those procedures skin to skin.
Is that a question or a statement? Your assumption was correct so why would I say anything.
I guess? I say that b/c I let younger students perform clinical skills on me (blocks, avulsions, injections, ect). You might have patient actors or upperclassmen that allow you to perform skills early in your education, therefore, I guessed.
You state that I listed 4 students (gusty, psonic, Iliza, and myself), there are only 4 students in my class that post here. So if 4 of 4 have these experiences, would you call it the exception or the norm?
As for your clinical experience at Temple, I have not commented on it b/c I know nothings about it. I have meet Temple students and they are discussed their experiences. I will not post their comments good or bad b/c I cannot speak for them and I should not. You should not speak for DMU students when you posted what you have "read." I am more than okay if you want to comment on objective things such as numbers (patient encounters, board scores, outcomes, ect) b/c numbers tend not to lie. Generally, if I am speaking about other schools, I try to include links or numbers b/c it is less opinion and more fact.
Nowhere have I disagreed that real patient is better than a high tech dummy. First, the simulation labs are used in the first two years, how many patients do you get to see at Temple in the first tow years? The problem is that you are posting in an attempt to mock another school, when it was not necessary. You then made an off the mark comment insinuating that the school does not get real patients. All I am doing is correcting your incorrect and underinformed post. Finally, it is hard to understand the benefit if you do not have the opportunity to use them. You can read about ALCS, so why do they have simulated codes when you get certified? As every coach knows, practice makes perfect.