Army The 1-year AEGD: What do you learn?

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My understanding is that the 2-year AEGD is more standardized than the 1-year program. But, there must be some things that you can predictably learn by taking the 1-year.

What could a self-motivated individual reliably learn in a 1-year AEGD that this same individual would be unable to learn during four years of normal dental practice as a 63A in the Army? I'm talking about specific procedures primarily, but knowledge related to other things is welcomed as well. Also, if there are any noticeable changes to day-to-day practice in terms of responsibility,location, ect, I'd love to hear about it.

Looking forward to hearing from some 1-year graduates. Thanks.

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Huh, no one have an idea?

How about this, what did you personally spend the most time learning in your 1 year AEGD?
 
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I can't speak for those that are Army guys, only from my perspective. The big difference between the 1-yr vs 2-yr programs is that the 2-yr is much more intense as far as study, procedures done, and is more of a career minded move as it will give you a Comp Dentist designation. This means you can take pretty much any billet out there that is not a specialist billet (no endo, perio, prosth, OMFS billets).

I assume that you are comparing an AEGD vs Credentialing Tour and that you will be right out of dental school. Essentially, the military will want to make sure you are able to handle most procedures or know when to refer when in an isolated duty-type situation. With both you will receive similar training, usually consisting of 2 month rotations with each specialty; endo, perio, prosth, oral surgery. With these rotations, usually you do operative 1/2 day, and the rotation the other 1/2. The AEGD will have some didactic study that the credentialing tour will not. AEGD will also give you 250 hrs CE credit, not sure if the credentialing tour will or not. Obviously, the AEGD adds another year to your commitment, but IMO, that's not a big deal in the grand scheme of a dental career of 30+ years. I also think that if you are doing a credentialing tour it would be easier to take you out of a rotation to "help" catch up on the amalgam line than if you were with and AEGD.

I did the 1-yr AEGD and am now in private practice (I've been out 10 years now, but doesn't seem so long ago). I'm sure there are more recent graduates that can give some insight as well, but I'm pretty sure things haven't changed much. When I was in the Navy, the AEGD was not a neutral year like it is now, but I doubt that would have changed my decision to take the tour. In hind sight, if I knew I could get into a 2-yr right out of dental school, I would have, but I'm also much more military minded than most.
 
Thanks for the break down hedgy. That was a very thorough and interesting read.
I'm not sure the Army has a "credentialing tour" like the Navy has.

Still no Army people who want to chip in?
 
I didn't do a one year, but I can chime in.

A one year makes you a much better dentist in one year, or you could do it in 4 years as you stated above. Your skills are quickly expedited. Additionally, you have more training. Your training is the most important thing you will ever do for your career as a dentist. Once you finish formalized training, the rest is on you...as in CE, etc.

In terms of assignments, the one year makes a big difference, as you are now seen as more competent. Furthermore, if you are looking for a special staff assignment, where you are given more responsibility, many of these require the one year.

I hope that helps a little!
 
My understanding is that the 2-year AEGD is more standardized than the 1-year program. But, there must be some things that you can predictably learn by taking the 1-year.

What could a self-motivated individual reliably learn in a 1-year AEGD that this same individual would be unable to learn during four years of normal dental practice as a 63A in the Army? I'm talking about specific procedures primarily, but knowledge related to other things is welcomed as well. Also, if there are any noticeable changes to day-to-day practice in terms of responsibility,location, ect, I'd love to hear about it.

Looking forward to hearing from some 1-year graduates. Thanks.

I can only speak for the 1 year I did, but here is a brief overview:

I can not reliably answer your first question, I went straight from the aged into specialty training. From what I saw, the NEW dentists in my building were doing basic dentistry (exams, fillings, TMD guards, ect.) I have no idea what they are doing in other clinics or on other posts.

In the Aged we had a periodontist, OMFS, prosthodontists, endodontist, orthodontist, and a few bravos as mentors. We were in clinic 32 hours a week and lecture 8 hrs. Lectures were either by a mentor or fellow resident. We starting presenting more and more as time went on.

I did not do many SRPs in perio, we were doing initial exam/dx, re-evals, surgeries (osseous, CLPs, GBR/ GTRs, CT grafts, and implants)

OMFS - exodontia (simple and impacted), implants, primarily watching/assisting in the OR unless you show interest and are prepared)

Prosth- Evals/workup/restorations on implants and crown and bridge primarily. Some of my fellow residents had more interest in prosth and did some complex cases.

Endo- NSRCTs, Retreats, simple apicos.

Ortho - bonding and brackets on comprehensive cases of the orthodontist. We did our own limited cases (uprighting, extrusions) Again some did more if they were interested in ortho)

You also have comprehensive patients as well where you are treatment planning, and treating.

That being said, I think you could get the experience eventually w/o doing the 1 yr just not in a yr. I learned a lot about dentistry in that year and was very impressed with the program. The Army puts a lot of money into these training programs and it shows. Coming out of dental school, training levels and experience level vary a ton. The 1 yr can help fill in gaps in your training. You get out what you put in, so if you are self-motivated you will learn a lot. It can also help you determine if you want to specialize. For example, my co-residents and I hated perio coming out of dental school because all we did were SRPs and evals. During the AEGD we were primarily doing perio surgery. Periodontics was not for me, but I gained respect for the speciality, and we had a couple residents end up applying for perio.

Hope this helps.
 
Could anyone tell me what life is like during the AEGD in terms of study/prep time at night and on weekends?
 
Could anyone tell me what life is like during the AEGD in terms of study/prep time at night and on weekends?

In my AEGD, we did an occassional lit review that we had to prepare for. We also did table clinics for the Chicago Midwinter Meeting. Other than that, I did not spend a lot of time studying/prepping.
 
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Looking back at my previous post I can see how I give the impression that you get to perform these procedures routinely. I was just listing procedures I did w/o trying to quantify them. Let me clarify.

You will get exposure and a few experiences in straight forward implant placement, apicos, GBR and GTRs, CT grafts, ortho.

We were routinely doing filings, crown/bridge, exts, osseous, CLPs and NSRCTs.
 
Just heard back from AEGD board, has anyone else heard back? Are you planning on accepting?
 
Did you want to do it when you applied?
I am also applying for specialty so I am split on the 1 year. Unfortunately, we do not find out about specialty selection until next year. If I got into my specialty I would have considered leaving the spot for someone else. If I was not doing a specialty I would do the 1 year without hesitation, it is for sure great training.
 
I am also applying for specialty so I am split on the 1 year. Unfortunately, we do not find out about specialty selection until next year. If I got into my specialty I would have considered leaving the spot for someone else. If I was not doing a specialty I would do the 1 year without hesitation, it is for sure great training.
Which specialty are you applying for? What are the pros/cons of doing both?
 
I'm applying to OS. The pros of the doing the aged and residency is the aegd will give you experience going into your specialty, probably make you more well rounded. Cons being taking the slot from someone who either has not made up their mind on specialty training or a general dentist whom could better use the training. Also you end up leaving the aegd early if you get into a specialty.
 
I'm applying to OS. The pros of the doing the aged and residency is the aegd will give you experience going into your specialty, probably make you more well rounded. Cons being taking the slot from someone who either has not made up their mind on specialty training or a general dentist whom could better use the training. Also you end up leaving the aegd early if you get into a specialty.

Also, the one year AEGD is a neutral year, and you don't pay back your obligation during this time. However, if you are doing an OS residency, when you pay back the 4 years for OS, you will also pay back the 4 years from HPSP, so it really does not add any time to your payback.
 
Down-fracture, which AEGD location did you attend? A buddy of mine who completed his at Ft. Sill didn't say he had anywhere near this amount of experience.
I would be careful about assumming that certain programs always do things a particular way and basing your decision about where to go on that information. As program directors and teh specialists who mentor rotate out, a program will change and evolve. Therefore because a program (specialty or 1 yr AEGD) was a particular way one year does not mean it is always like that.
 
The AEGD gives you knowledge, 4 years of service as an Army dentist gives you experience.
 
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