Undiagnosed Learning Needs That Affected My Undergrad Progress

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Hi everyone,

I have been struggling in college (though the problem goes back further...), but I have finally taken action. Of course, it's my second semester of junior year, but better late than never. Believe me, the past few years were terrible for me before I could accept I had a problem.

I'll try to be concise:

I have been struggling with "something" my entire life. In kindergarten through second grade, I received special help because I couldn't pay attention, always appeared to be daydreaming, and couldn't focus on what I was supposed to. No formal diagnosis was ever made - I can't remember exactly what they thought I had, and I don't know if my parents somehow refused. However, my school district was terribly underfunded, and they dropped my special help in third grade without warning (as far as I can remember).

Though I was a decent student from K-12, teachers always complained how I was daydreaming, obsessive, and had trouble making friends. I was always the target of bullying because I "never talked" and was thus "weird" to my classmates - some of these bullying incidents were quite traumatic and cannot be described here. :thumbdown:

In middle and high school, I nevertheless made a few good friends. :thumbup:

My parents thought I never had anything wrong with me - teachers thought otherwise (but remember, I was still under 18 most of this time, so my parents had control).

When I got to college, however, my issues, academically, were becoming more apparent. Socially, college was somewhat easier because people were becoming more mature, but the new academic expectations were frustrating, to say the least. I knew that college was supposed to be harder than high school, but the issue was that I could not keep up with the work, resulting in poor grades. :mad:

The worst of those was a D in organic chemistry II (though I did retake it and get an A-).

Still, last semester, I took physics I with calculus (hah!) and was failing at every test. I withdrew when I still could, but I was now very depressed and angry and had to seek psychological help.

Long story short, I was sent to be evaluated for ADHD and its relatives (covered by insurance!), and while I still haven't gotten the results back (next Friday I will), it's most likely some combination of ADHD/OCD that's been getting at me all these years.

I need to make one thing clear - I am not seeking some magical "happy pills". I'm just trying to get out of the mess that the problems I've always had eventually added up to create. I know it will be tough, but I am determined to achieve my goal of going to medical school, osteopathic or otherwise. I just want to get the tools, resources, and understanding I need.

So, the issue is that I have to work with a GPA of 2.8 (without the orgo factored) or 2.94 (osteopathic replacement for orgo).

My ECs have been on and off - I hope to get some shadowing in very soon, and I am getting to know some osteopathic physicians who I can shadow.

My parents want me to take a fifth year somehow - is this a wise idea, or should I do a post-bacc?

When should I take MCATs? Apply early?

What other advice can the SDN community give me?

I appreciate your help. Thanks! :)

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You have to bring that GPA up. It's not optional. While admissions will be willing to listen to your story and give you the benefit of the doubt, it won't happen unless now that you're diagnosed you've proven academic prowess. Don't plan on the MCAT now. Plan on how to get to at least a 3.3. Then start worrying about the MCAT.
 
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Hi everyone,

I have been struggling in college (though the problem goes back further...), but I have finally taken action. Of course, it's my second semester of junior year, but better late than never. Believe me, the past few years were terrible for me before I could accept I had a problem.

I'll try to be concise:

I have been struggling with "something" my entire life. In kindergarten through second grade, I received special help because I couldn't pay attention, always appeared to be daydreaming, and couldn't focus on what I was supposed to. No formal diagnosis was ever made - I can't remember exactly what they thought I had, and I don't know if my parents somehow refused. However, my school district was terribly underfunded, and they dropped my special help in third grade without warning (as far as I can remember).

Though I was a decent student from K-12, teachers always complained how I was daydreaming, obsessive, and had trouble making friends. I was always the target of bullying because I "never talked" and was thus "weird" to my classmates - some of these bullying incidents were quite traumatic and cannot be described here. :thumbdown:

In middle and high school, I nevertheless made a few good friends. :thumbup:

My parents thought I never had anything wrong with me - teachers thought otherwise (but remember, I was still under 18 most of this time, so my parents had control).

When I got to college, however, my issues, academically, were becoming more apparent. Socially, college was somewhat easier because people were becoming more mature, but the new academic expectations were frustrating, to say the least. I knew that college was supposed to be harder than high school, but the issue was that I could not keep up with the work, resulting in poor grades. :mad:

The worst of those was a D in organic chemistry II (though I did retake it and get an A-).

Still, last semester, I took physics I with calculus (hah!) and was failing at every test. I withdrew when I still could, but I was now very depressed and angry and had to seek psychological help.

Long story short, I was sent to be evaluated for ADHD and its relatives (covered by insurance!), and while I still haven't gotten the results back (next Friday I will), it's most likely some combination of ADHD/OCD that's been getting at me all these years.

I need to make one thing clear - I am not seeking some magical "happy pills". I'm just trying to get out of the mess that the problems I've always had eventually added up to create. I know it will be tough, but I am determined to achieve my goal of going to medical school, osteopathic or otherwise. I just want to get the tools, resources, and understanding I need.

So, the issue is that I have to work with a GPA of 2.8 (without the orgo factored) or 2.94 (osteopathic replacement for orgo).

My ECs have been on and off - I hope to get some shadowing in very soon, and I am getting to know some osteopathic physicians who I can shadow.

My parents want me to take a fifth year somehow - is this a wise idea, or should I do a post-bacc?

When should I take MCATs? Apply early?

What other advice can the SDN community give me?
A fifth college year or a postbac will affect your uGPA equally if you take the same coursework. It's fine to go the cheaper route. A fifth year has the advantage of keeping you eligible for student loans, protected from payback requirements, and keeps your registration priority. A postbac elsewhere might be cheaper (if not part of a formal program), and the grades would be listed on a separate line rather than merged with all other post-junior year grades.
 
First and foremost, work with a learning specialist to make sure you can handle medical school.

STRONGLY recommend post-bac.

Take MCAT once you're gotten al the pre-reqs done and take lots and lots of practice tests.


Hi everyone,

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My parents want me to take a fifth year somehow - is this a wise idea, or should I do a post-bacc?

When should I take MCATs? Apply early?

What other advice can the SDN community give me?

I appreciate your help. Thanks! :)
 
Try to retroactively withdraw from every college class you've ever taken, then start from square one this fall. Go Class of 2020!
 
Your GPA is NOT competetive. Don't bother taking the MCAT; it would be a waste of money now. You need to show AdComs you can handle the rigor of medical school.

So, the issue is that I have to work with a GPA of 2.8 (without the orgo factored) or 2.94 (osteopathic replacement for orgo).

that's good.
My ECs have been on and off - I hope to get some shadowing in very soon, and I am getting to know some osteopathic physicians who I can shadow.

STRONGLY suggest either post-bac for grade repair, or SMP
My parents want me to take a fifth year somehow - is this a wise idea, or should I do a post-bacc?

When you're ready. I don't think you're ready.
When should I take MCATs?

Nope, you're looking at 100% rejections.
Apply early?
 
If I were in your position, I wouldn't consider applying, taking the MCAT or really anything related to Medical School until I fix my grades. And even then- if I'm to be blatantly honest, plan on possibly taking the route of a Caribbean American Medical School. Medical School is extremely selective, and you're no where near where you need to be right now. Eventually what you want to have at least a 3.5 and blaze the MCAT.

Actually, DO schools love a good comeback story. If you do exceptionally on the MCAT and have a 3.4 or something, I can see you getting in there.
 
Thanks everyone - but it's so easy to get discouraged and feel hopeless with how my life has been. My biggest problem is comparing myself to others - when everyone else seems to get to where they want to be effortlessly...:mad:
 
Thanks everyone - but it's so easy to get discouraged and feel hopeless with how my life has been. My biggest problem is comparing myself to others - when everyone else seems to get to where they want to be effortlessly...:mad:

Effortlessly? I've got grey hairs, and I'm young. I'm sure I ain't the only one. Getting into Medical school is difficult. If it wasn't, everyone who went into a premed program would be a physician, and that's far from the case.

You should compare yourself to others- but know that everyone struggles. Nothing in life worth doing is easy... well, almost.
 
I am in the same situation but am just praying I will get in. All you can do is try and see what happens.
 
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