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Hey guys,
Hope everyone is well as we fly all over the country...

Does anyone know anything about the newer program in Nevada(not the reno program).

I went on there website and it seems that both the reno program and the Vegas program are on one site. I think the Vegas program started in 2004 and the Reno program in 2000.

Scut work has a really great review on the Vegas program but does anyone have any other feedback they could give?

thanks

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Can't answer your question.

But I can tell you that my program treats the Atlantic City area.

We do get a lot of casino type of cases.
e.g. patients decompensating on the casino floor while throwing chips into the air, problem patients dumped to Atlantic City, someone literally told them to go into a free casino bus by someone who had a responsibility to treat them, etc.

AC has a vigorous sexual escort industry. You see some related cases.

One particular interesting once a year thing here is the cops right before the tourist season go under the boardwalk & kick all the homeless people out (the boardwalk is aka "The Underwood Motel".)

I have no idea what a Vegas residency would be like but I figure there would be some parallels.
 
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For the love of god, stay away from this program. I'm PGY-4 and can honestly say that this program has been the biggest mistake of my life. I transferred from another program after my intern year at another program with thoughts of an easier work load. The internship is probably the easiest in all of Psych without overnight call. However, there is NO advantage as you progress through the years. It is SOO disorganized it is amazing. Rotations are constantly in flux and changing day by day. Once they passed their ACGME site visit, they've let everything go down the toilet. Hence the scutwork review is a bit dated. Faculty are constantly changing. Our didactics are disorganized and cancelled half the time. Supervision is weak or non-existant. As a PGY-4 you have no electives. Currently, they throw you into the local county hospital and have you do consults for almost an entire year out of your residency. As a 4th year resident, I've just been told I'll be working every single weekend for the next two months. No moonlighting, unless you agree to have 1/3 of your pay go to the program for "expenses" and a "resident fund". Of course, nobody in the residency has seen a dime from this fund for books or anything. BTW, since most of us refused to moonlight, I'm now being assigned to do it as a "new" rotation of which I never chose, elected, or want to do. AND, won't be getting paid a dime extra for either! Even better, I was told the NIGHT BEFORE about my new rotation by email!!!!! AND, this rotation is basically an ER rotation which will give me almost 6 months of Psych ER as a PGY-4 working more hours than the freaking interns!! You would think we would have at least ONE elective as a PGY-4. Morale is terribly low and I imagine the majority that are here now would not choose this program again. Did I mention our lack of relevant didactics? We are SOOO screwed for the board exam it is unbelievable. Our PRITE scores are always terrible. This is just a FEW of the problems that popped into my mind. In summary, if you want a cake intern year, lack of education, no chance at passing the boards, and a huge workload as a PGY-4 with no electives, this program is for you!
Thank you for the feedback. oh by the way i noticed that there are two programs. Reno and Vegas. which one are you in?
 
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Wow, Thank you for the feedback. I may cancel my interview. One thing was interesting about the interview email. They said that the interview finishes at 6pm and that if anyone leaves before 6pm they will not be ranked. honestly I had this funny thought that applicants are leaving early because the program is so bad....lol...
thanks again for the feedback.

good luck with the boards. oh by the way i noticed that there are two programs. Reno and Vegas. which one are you in?


I received the same email. It was a turn-off for sure. Considering the fact that interview season is the "wine & roses" period of the entire eight year experience- I thought it a really bad sign.
 
I have also noticed that the above poster is touching on a subject we
(as M4's )often don't know about- which is that a program that is super cush in the intern year may have scary surprises down the road- crappy schedules during PGY3, PGY4, or "home call" that is often, repeatedly often, from hell.

It really pays to put your nose to the ground, IMO and find out as many ins and outs about a program as you can- all four years worth. Personally I want it all- great training, ability to do research, fellowships, work hard ( but not to the point of exhaustion and scut- not too much anyway), and also have a life. Thus I am only interviewing at 6-10 places. There's no way I can sanely learn all I want to know about 30 programs. If they don't let you talk to the residents forget about it!
 
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Absolutely, talk to as many residents as you can. Especially the ones NOT giving the tours. I have a feeling I'm going to be off the tour list this year. :(

thanks for the advice
 
Especially the ones NOT giving the tours. I have a feeling I'm going to be off the tour list this year.

The only real way to know what's really going on. Several people will try to "sell" the program. Residents tend to give the real deal, especially under the table.
 
I am a PGY-1 resident. My wife and I both matched into this program and we are both very happy. I am doing my 6 months of inpatient psychiatry. I was gradually given a case load of seven patients, the maximum allowed by a PGY-1 resident. I receive over 2-3 hours of supervision per week directly from my attending. In addition, I am receiving an hour of supervision at the psychiatry office and I receive my lectures on academic day. My routine day begins between 8:30-9:00am and I leave the building at 4:30pm. The call schedule is resident friendly as I am on call every other weekend that begins at 8:30am and ends approximately at noon; when I leave I turn off my pager. I could not have asked for a better inpatient experience. The program director is resident friendly and is actively involved in our education. Overall, I love the program and we love Las Vegas. There is much to do here as well as easy access to the surround areas.
 
Hi everyone,
Just wanted to put in my thoughts on the program. I'm a upperlevel resident, and am very happy with this program. I'm not discounting everything that my fellow resident has said, he has gone through some changes with the program. This is a new program and has gone through several changes since opening. We do have some new faculty members, and new office, and new rotations, and these changes have occured over the last couple of years. However, I feel that these have been positive changes, we are adding more 4th year rotations, which will be in effect as of the start of next year, we have great faculty for teaching and supervising. But the very best thing is the call schedule. No overnight call during psych rotations, that means the only overnight call is for the interns during their IM rotation. And the call schedule is very light. Residents here do have a good quality of life. Other perks, we have "movie night" once a month, and we have a Freud/Original Thinkers reading group once a month, that is optional.
We do have all the required stuff such as mock oral boards, journal club, case conference, and didactics. Our didactics are protected, they occur on Wednesday from 11 to 5pm. With an optional class at 8am and therapy classes at 10am for the 3rd years. They have a good balance here of psychopharm and therapy. Before this turns into a book, I will sign off and see if anyone has any questions. Take care!
 
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Hi everyone,
Just wanted to put in my thoughts on the program. I'm a upperlevel resident, and am very happy with this program. I'm not discounting everything that my fellow resident has said, he has gone through some changes with the program. This is a new program and has gone through several changes since opening. We do have some new faculty members, and new office, and new rotations, and these changes have occured over the last couple of years. However, I feel that these have been positive changes, we are adding more 4th year rotations, which will be in effect as of the start of next year, we have great faculty for teaching and supervising. But the very best thing is the call schedule. No overnight call during psych rotations, that means the only overnight call is for the interns during their IM rotation. And the call schedule is very light. Residents here do have a good quality of life. Other perks, we have "movie night" once a month, and we have a Freud/Original Thinkers reading group once a month, that is optional.
We do have all the required stuff such as mock oral boards, journal club, case conference, and didactics. Our didactics are protected, they occur on Wednesday from 11 to 5pm. With an optional class at 8am and therapy classes at 10am for the 3rd years. They have a good balance here of psychopharm and therapy. Before this turns into a book, I will sign off and see if anyone has any questions. Take care!

I appreciate the feedback. I was very excited about my interview there but in all honesty for an actual resident to post such a negative review about his own residency really had me worried. Your post is so different from his it almost seems that your both in two completely different programs.
 
I am a PGY-1 resident at the UNSOM-Las Vegas doing my my off service rotation. So far, I have had a very positive experience here as well. I have, thus far completed my primary care requirement and am currently on neurology. University Medical Center is the only Level One Trauma Center in the state of Nevada. You'll get to see unique cases here in relation to ER, neurology and psychiatry. The faculty here are very approachable.
With response to the "resident's fund". So far, I have not had to pay for any of my required/recommended texts. If you like good restaurants, there are plenty here and tons of pharm dinners to go around.
Good luck with your interviews and we hope to see you here.
 
I am a PGY-1 resident at the UNSOM-Las Vegas doing my my off service rotation. So far, I have had a very positive experience here as well. I have, thus far completed my primary care requirement and am currently on neurology. University Medical Center is the only Level One Trauma Center in the state of Nevada. You'll get to see unique cases here in relation to ER, neurology and psychiatry. The faculty here are very approachable.
With response to the "resident's fund". So far, I have not had to pay for any of my required/recommended texts. If you like good restaurants, there are plenty here and tons of pharm dinners to go around.
Good luck with your interviews and we hope to see you here.

Thanks for the replies. It seems like you guys rallied and put up some great posts. How is the psychotherapy in your program? Is it pretty affordable to live in vegas?



Thanks again!!!
 
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I dunno. Those posts were by members with all of one post to their name. I'm guessing these are either fakes posted not by residents but maybe folks on the admissions committee who are worried about all this bad press, OR actual residents who were told by the program that they better post something nice. Note the retraction by what was very clearly honest appraisal by the PGY4 near the top of the thread. Those 2 posts smell fishy to me.
 
I dunno. Those posts were by members with all of one post to their name. I'm guessing these are either fakes posted not by residents but maybe folks on the admissions committee who are worried about all this bad press, OR actual residents who were told by the program that they better post something nice. Note the retraction by what was very clearly honest appraisal by the PGY4 near the top of the thread. Those 2 posts smell fishy to me.
You think? they seemed pretty genuine to me...

Oh well...
 
The one thing that seemed wierd was that the original negative post was deleted by the resident. Maybe he got in trouble....

My theory is that the mafia really runs the program (come'on this is Vegas!) and they took him out and then deleted his orginal post. His body is probably out in the desert....
 
My theory is that the mafia really runs the program (come'on this is Vegas!) and they took him out and then deleted his orginal post. His body is probably out in the desert....

The desert...C'mon havent you ever seen "The God Father" "Dhm37 sleeps with the fishes"

Seriously...I hope it is a great program. I'm still definitely going to interview. I'm gonna let it ride on red at the casino after my interview!!!!
 
Hi everyone,
But the very best thing is the call schedule. No overnight call during psych rotations, that means the only overnight call is for the interns during their IM rotation. And the call schedule is very light.

Well, I would be very skeptical of the programs with a call schedule like this. When I was interviewing, I was thinking of two programs-

Program 1- No overnight calls. Can go home at 11 PM.
Program 2.- Overnight calls 'till mid PGY-3.

I made the latter choice and have been fully satisfied with my decision. I would never trade my current experience with any other. True, some calls can be brutal-like today's is turning out to be:( but the learning experience is just awesome:thumbup:.
 
Well, I would be very skeptical of the programs with a call schedule like this. When I was interviewing, I was thinking of two programs-

Program 1- No overnight calls. Can go home at 11 PM.
Program 2.- Overnight calls 'till mid PGY-3.

I made the latter choice and have been fully satisfied with my decision. I would never trade my current experience with any other. True, some calls can be brutal-like today's is turning out to be:( but the learning experience is just awesome:thumbup:.

I have to agree with you. As much as I hate to say it, overnight call does have some benefit in training. It definitely teaches one how to take on the responsibilities of a doc such as having to make a decision without supervision.

Looking at this thread. One has to note that dhm deleted all of his responses the same day that we got a flood of positive reviews of this program. One can surmise that dhm got in deep doodoo with his program and that some other residents are kissing ass for the program playing damage control. This smells to high heaven. If it smells like BS, it probably is BS. If dhm's post wasn't true, why are there so many kooks on here for damage control?
 
Hope dhm37 doesn't get clobbered by his program for talking.:scared:
 
I have to agree with you. As much as I hate to say it, overnight call does have some benefit in training. It definitely teaches one how to take on the responsibilities of a doc such as having to make a decision without supervision.

Yeah. I have to agree with you and whopper on this as well. Being on call with only yourself and a back up attending is a great learning experience and has quickly increased my confidence in dealing with difficult situations.

One can surmise that dhm got in deep doodoo with his program and that some other residents are kissing ass for the program playing damage control.

I'm telling you, the mob runs that program! You don't bad mouth their program and get away with it. :laugh:
 
Looking at this thread. One has to note that dhm deleted all of his responses the same day that we got a flood of positive reviews of this program.

IT could be for a multitude of reasons. DHM may have been the voice of honesty now quieted, he/she may have been a troller.

The internet affords anonymity, and that creates situations where people are more honest than they would be otherwise or more dishonest.

I mentioned in a few other threads about when I interviewed at LIJ. Similar situation, someone posted a very bad review. I later felt the review was unfair because I talked to several residents at LIJ under the table and they thought the review was way off. Being that it was under the table, I felt the reviewer was unfair.

In this particular situation we don't know the exact reasons.

Anyways, I agree with what's been said above about calls. If you do more intense calls, you learn more & more quickly. However (one branch of my program does follow the 11pm model, the other branch of my program does the all night model), I felt the learning curve for psyche calls topped off by the end of my first year. There's still more to learn but I still felt I learned as much with an off-site call instead of the on-site call being that the program is 4 years and there's less acute situations in psychiatry vs other fields (e.g. in IM, anything can happen, including psychiatric emergencies. In psyche, IM emergencies are rare and usually handled by IM).

(I also think medstudents wanting to go into psychiatry shouldn't do so many psyche electives, because they're still going to eventually reach the same learning plateau. Why not then learn some other fields of medicine outside of psyche, especially ones that'll help you in psyche practice?)

However I do think that its better for the IM rotation to include IM calls, and intense ones at that because its only 4 months. As a psyche resident you're probably never going to work in IM ever again, you're done with it before your learning curve plateaus. THat's it--nada later. You need to learn as much in this as you can while you're in it. (my program--one branch doesn't have IM calls, the other does-I'm criticizing one end & praising the other end).

I feel that as a psychiatrist, we need to make double sure we learn our medicine. I've seen enough psychiatrists not know their medicine to the point where its bothersome.
 
Hello again,
Wow, lots of replys. The best advice I can give anyone regarding the posts and what is truthfull or not: If you are interested in a program it is very important to see it for yourself, listen to your gut feeling, and get phone numbers of residents so you can call them after interview day with any questions. Get a phone number from someone in each class, they may have a different point of view. And I suggest calling rather than emailing, they will probably be more honest that way. This goes for any program. Usually you will get a good feeling in favor or not in favor of a program on your interview day. It is important to try and talk with those resident who you do not meet when interviewing. You likely can get names, emails, numbers from the program coordinator. This is a very important decision, it's no fun transfering, so it's best to get all the info you can prior to Match day.
Again, I am very happy with this program, I am learning alot, I feel confident covering call without an Attending around, we have alot of autonomy, and no one paid me to say this. :) And yes this is my first post, I didn't even know about this website until I learned of the negative post. I wanted to give people a different point of view. If you're still interested in checking us out after all of this, I think you'll get a better idea of what we're all about on interview day. Good luck to everyone!
 
Nevadapsyche,

Maybe if you post a little about yourself. I'm didn't put up my actual name but I've put up who I am in other threads--Chief of the Atlantic Regional Medical Center branch of UMDNJ-Robert Wood Johnson Cooper Hospital.

If you're willing forego the anonymity, it'll give you more credibility. I'm not saying you're not credible, just that this was a case of he said vs she said. It'll help your program out.
 
Hi!
Lets see, what would you like to know? I'm a 3rd year resident at UNSOM Las Vegas. I spent the day hiking at Red Rocks with my husband and Golden Retriever. Went to med school at St. George's. Loved Grenada. Miss the Caribbean.
And I want to be clear that I'm not discounting everything that my fellow resident said; he had a different experience from me and from others. He's a good guy, a friend. And he's not buried in the desert, he's o.k. :)
Anything else you would like to know?
 
Hi!
Lets see, what would you like to know? I'm a 3rd year resident at UNSOM Las Vegas. I spent the day hiking at Red Rocks with my husband and Golden Retriever. Went to med school at St. George's. Loved Grenada. Miss the Caribbean.
And I want to be clear that I'm not discounting everything that my fellow resident said; he had a different experience from me and from others. He's a good guy, a friend. And he's not buried in the desert, he's o.k. :)
Anything else you would like to know?

Well, DOES the mafia really run your program? :D
 
I transferred from another program after my intern year at another program with thoughts of an easier work load.

We miss you in Phoenix dhm. Are you coming back after graduation? That is if you're not dead in the desert of course.
 
We miss you in Phoenix dhm. Are you coming back after graduation? That is if you're not dead in the desert of course.

Not in the desert, the first offense is just having your nails pulled out with pliers.;) Anyway, my wife and I really liked Phoenix and I do have very fond memories of the people I worked with, so going back is a distinct possibility. We have definitely talked about it. However, we'll probably stay in Vegas for a few years as she has a good job and is looking like she'll be promoted again. We'll also start having kids soon, and the thought of raising little rug rats in "sin city" doesn't seem too appealing for both of us. But, of course, plans have changed before and we may end up in Phoenix sooner than we could imagine. Send me a private message and we'll keep in touch!
 
Hi..I am an IMG and I'm also interviewing at vegas for psychiatry..so i got the same message from the program..even when i called them for dates later,she said the same thing abut not leaving before 6..n i was like quiet..and she laughed..n said that again..so i'm thinking they are just trying some dry humor and that doesnt mean anything else!!Also,dhm might have had some bad experiences..sometimes everyone has that..but i am sure the program is not that bad..all said and done..i think we know things best from what we see fr ourselves so do not cancel your interview jus because of the bad posts..do go for the interview and a lot of things will make more sense to you..good luck!:)
 
Hi fancypants,
I figure that post must have been buried on page 500 of this website by now, but thanks to you it's back to page one. I, and especially your program, are happy to have this spirited debate regarding its practices and training brought to the surface again. After all, your program is very open to criticism and they never intimidate or punish people for speaking out in a lively and open forum for all to see. They would never demand a residency retreat report be revised because it was too negative. Nor would they try to fire the entire residency program after learning of some negative criticisms that would be labeled as "lies".

Anyhow, somebody brought your post to my attention and after reading and debating and debating and debating and debating some more whether I should respond, I decided what the hell. You can knock me all you want, but judging my fellow residents I will not let go without a response. First of all, you never met us. You're impugning some genuinely good people and some fine doctors that have gone on and left all of this craziness behind and are thriving in other locales. All that you may have learned was from some other residents or the powers within the program. How can you possibly judge us when you don't even know us? How can you even have a clue what happened 2 years ago, when you were still a 3rd year med student and not even in the residency program? Obviously somebody is telling you something about us and it isn't exactly positive. Sad, very sad. Not only are you arrogant and pretentious in your remarks, you're incredibly ignorant as well. A dangerous combination in real life, but you may thrive in this environment.

I don't care so much that you're judging me and my comments without even knowing me, but I must point out that what happened that year was so much more than the work load being increased. You accuse me and my fellow residents for not having a "work ethic". Well, what is the point of a residency? Is it work or is it education? My biggest complaint was, and always has been that the work duties far out trumped the educational aspects of that year. There were many examples of this, but one is when I brought my concerns about one of my rotations that was a "float" rotation where I just filled in for attendings that were not there. What kind of educational experience is there when I'm just working for attendings that call in sick or are on vacation? I brought my concerns to one of the admin and I was told that wasn't an appropriate education experience, but they don't deal with those issues. So, then I bring my concerns up to somebody who supposedly dealt with those issues. Nothing changed. No electives either. NONE. Out of frustration of not being heard, I made that post. BAD move. After apologizing and deleting my post, I was walking on egg shells the rest of the year wondering if I would graduate. Later, I was specifically made to work all weekends (again no faculty present on the weekend) the last 3 months of my residency and I smiled AND enjoyed it. The whole idea of us complaining and bringing up our concerns was to try to make this program a BETTER one. Not to be a pain in the arse to the people running the program. Unfortunately, we were labeled as trouble, etc. etc and nothing changed. I hear you're nice guy and you're new and naïve so it is understandable you have deep faith in this. I hate to question or put doubt in your faith, but you may find more in that Kool-Aid than you bargained for. Then again criticizing the program did none of us any good, so maybe you should take long drinks out of that punch bowl.
 
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I was recently in Vegas for the APM meeting - as we landed the flight attendant announced "Remember, whatever happens in Vegas... ends up on YouTube."
 
ps: what happens in Vegas ends up on studentdoctor.net

Driving out in the desert outside of town I saw a couple boots sticking up out of the ground and a red nose reindeer running around looking lost. I really hope Santa didn't get whacked. Maybe he owed a bookie? I'll be really bummed if I my stocking is empty this year. :( What happens in Vegas in ends up in the desert of Vegas. Merry Christmas even if all of us kiddies are screwed this year!
 
Driving out in the desert outside of town I saw a couple boots sticking up out of the ground and a red nose reindeer running around looking lost. I really hope Santa didn't get whacked. Maybe he owed a bookie? I'll be really bummed if I my stocking is empty this year. :( What happens in Vegas in ends up in the desert of Vegas. Merry Christmas even if all of us kiddies are screwed this year!


haha ...
 
Only in Vegas can I find Santa dead last week and this week I saw Elvis driving drown the highway alive and well in a 55 pink Cadillac. Happy New Year. Cheers!
 
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