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Hi everyone! First post in this forum! I had a question to ask you guys. I am currently a sophomore in NYIT's BS/DO program, and I am really unhappy in this college, so I was actually planning on transferring to Queens College next semester and going through the regular route because it is just not worth it to stay in that college, with all the tuition I'm paying. My question is that will this make it harder for me to get into NYCOM? Like, what do most people who go to NYCOM the regular way get on the MCATs?

I appreciate any help and advice. Thank you in advance!! 🙂
 
cdcd67 said:
Hi everyone! First post in this forum! I had a question to ask you guys. I am currently a sophomore in NYIT's BS/DO program, and I am really unhappy in this college, so I was actually planning on transferring to Queens College next semester and going through the regular route because it is just not worth it to stay in that college, with all the tuition I'm paying. My question is that will this make it harder for me to get into NYCOM? Like, what do most people who go to NYCOM the regular way get on the MCATs?

I appreciate any help and advice. Thank you in advance!! 🙂
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The average mcat score for NYCOM for the last 2 yrs has been about 27. I think the requirement for the BS/DO students is a bit lower, but in recent years they've raised it. I am not sure by how much.

I don't think it should hurt you too much to xfer out. I mean, you're transferring to a CUNY for a lower tuition which is a very valid reason for wanting to get out.
 
2012 MCAT average according to the dean was 27 with a gpa of 3.6

BS/DO MCAT requirement to move onto NYCOM is 26 on MCAT. I think if you want to go to NYCOM ultimately, transfering out of NYIT (and essentially out of a guaranteed acceptance to your top school assuming you score a 26 on the MCAT, which you probably would need to do anyway these days to get into NYCOM) might not be the best idea.

I can understand that private tuition is quite a bear (I went to NYU so believe me I know...), but you are already a sophmore. Don't you only have like 1 more year until you actually start NYCOM? You're already pretty close... how unhappy are you and what are the reasons for it? Is it mainly money or is it something else?
 
The main reason is not the tuition; it is because of the education. They don't provide such a great education and I think pretty much everybody in my BS/DO class would agree with that. People stick with it because of the guaranteed admission, but I don't know if I want to do that.
 
By the end of your junior year you might find yourself regretting giving up a (near) guaranteed med school admission. I'm not particularly happy at my undergrad either, but its just something you get through (although I don't have the promise of med school next year).
 
cdcd67 said:
The main reason is not the tuition; it is because of the education. They don't provide such a great education and I think pretty much everybody in my BS/DO class would agree with that. People stick with it because of the guaranteed admission, but I don't know if I want to do that.
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Grass is always greener my friend, but it is just as hard to mow.

You'll learn soon that you're the one that gets the most out of the education. See it as an opportunity to develop your self-directed study habits, which will be critical later on. I've attended a lot of schools and have noticed that the quality is pretty even across the board. Some good, some bad, and a lot of in-between.
 
I get what you are saying, but isn't the whole purpose of going to school to learn something? I know I still have to study on my own, but it will be easier to do that if the teacher explained the things in class and then I can just go over it at home. With NYIT, I am better not even attending the classes, and just studying at home. It's like a waste of time.

But yeah, I know how the guaranteed admission is a good thing, and I have no idea how I will do on the MCAT, so....yeah, I'm confused.
 
Students in the US get way too much into being talked to and passive learning. I have a tough class with a great professor, but I really don't get much when I'm at the lecture honestly. As a TA, my professor constantly mentioned how people were unprepared for lecture and then went and complained to him about not covering all the material. He was a big believer in you coming to the class knowing the stuff, and then you go to the lecture to iron out small details.

I've heard the same type of things at every school I've spent time at.....a lot of people believe the same thing you do at every school you'll go to. You get adapted to high school learning and don't realize that in college, the learning doesn't take place in the classroom, it takes place with long hours at your desk. This isn't a rant about you and not calling you a bum, so don't think that. 😉 I just think that the difference will be less noticeable than you think. If it is something you need to be happier, then go for it. Your happiness will lead to much stronger grades and a better education than anything else.
 
oo..so it is like this in every college?.....ok well in that case, I might have to reconsider...arrggh, this is so frustrating 😡
 
I would stick with it. It is the same everywhere, don't give your dual degree spot up. You might regret it, and it will save you money.
 
cdcd67 said:
How will it save me money?
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you only have to do undergrad for 3 years, right? that's an extra year of attending pay in your lifetime compared to if you transfer and have to go for all 4 years.
 
Vee said:
you only have to do undergrad for 3 years, right? that's an extra year of attending pay in your lifetime compared to if you transfer and have to go for all 4 years.
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I thought BS/DO or BS/MDs were still normally four years BS unless you specifically take extra classes to complete it in three.
 
cdcd67 said:
How will it save me money?
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It will also save you money on the application process with can get pretty pricey and possibly from putting down multiple deposits.
 
PunkmedGirl said:
It will also save you money on the application process with can get pretty pricey and possibly from putting down multiple deposits.
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Good point. I will have spent about $10K on apps, traveling, and deposits. Subtract $2K for the school of my choice (since I'd have to pay it in tuition, anyway), and that's still a nice chunk of money that most poor students don't have. You might pay yourself back with first year student loans, but then you can triple the amount you end up paying back. Ouch!
 
Chocolate Bear said:
Good point. I will have spent about $10K on apps, traveling, and deposits. Subtract $2K for the school of my choice (since I'd have to pay it in tuition, anyway), and that's still a nice chunk of money that most poor students don't have. You might pay yourself back with first year student loans, but then you can triple the amount you end up paying back. Ouch!
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LOL So very true
 
engineeredout said:
I thought BS/DO or BS/MDs were still normally four years BS unless you specifically take extra classes to complete it in three.
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I'm fairly certain that the BS/DO students in my class only had 3 years of undergrad. They were invited to walk at the May, 2008 graduation (spring of their OMS-1 year), so maybe they didn't officially receive their undergrad diplomas officially until the end of four years (even though that fourth year is really their first year of med school). It's not a bad deal.
 
but Queens College only has a $70 application fee and its tuition is $2,000 per year, and it might actually be less because of scholarships

and to reply to engineeredout, NYIT's BS/DO program is 7 year, so there are 3 years of undergrad and 4 years of medical school

P.S. I appreciate all of you guys helping me out. I am not trying to fight back or something, lol, just clearing up some stuff. 🙂
 
cdcd67 said:
but Queens College only has a $70 application fee and its tuition is $2,000 per year, and it might actually be less because of scholarships

and to reply to engineeredout, NYIT's BS/DO program is 7 year, so there are 3 years of undergrad and 4 years of medical school

P.S. I appreciate all of you guys helping me out. I am not trying to fight back or something, lol, just clearing up some stuff. 🙂
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Well is NYCOM your top choice or just a school that has made itself readily available to you because you attend NYIT?? I think what everyone is looking at is if they had basically a guaranteed spot to med school then most people would just suck it up and endure that gapping in their non-existent wallet. Right now you have tunnel vision you're only looking at the NOW and not what will happen in the future, but in the end its your choice. Good Luck🙂
 
okay, thanks for all the replies guys. I guess I will stick with NYIT.
 
wait..i change my mind; it's not even NYIT, I can't deal with all the stress of a 7 year program and cramming everything in, and it gets harder with teachers that don't teach well; I might as well just do regular pre-med; I know there is going to be a whole thing about guarenteed admission; but if I can work hard for the MCAT, then I can still get into NYCOM or other DO schools the regular way.

I know most BS/DO students just deal with it, but isn't a good undergraduate education vital to do well in medical school?

I pray everything works out for the best, and if I don't do well on the MCATs, then I might as well do some other field in science
 
cdcd67 said:
wait..i change my mind; it's not even NYIT, I can't deal with all the stress of a 7 year program and cramming everything in, and it gets harder with teachers that don't teach well; I might as well just do regular pre-med; I know there is going to be a whole thing about guarenteed admission; but if I can work hard for the MCAT, then I can still get into NYCOM or other DO schools the regular way.

I know most BS/DO students just deal with it, but isn't a good undergraduate education vital to do well in medical school?

I pray everything works out for the best, and if I don't do well on the MCATs, then I might as well do some other field in science
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Typical pre-med. 🙂 Don't feel bad I'm the same way so go with what makes you happy.
 
Get out. If you are unhappy with the school, it will affect your grades down the line. I've only been here at NYCOM for a couple of months and I hate the school. Not being happy with the school is affecting my grades. Sadly, I'm stuck with what I have since leaving would cost me so much money. At least you still have the choice to leave. On the flip side, I turned down a gaurtened admission to a BS/MD when i was a senior in high school and having to apply to school for two cycles sure did suck. So think carefully about your decsion. If you are truely unhappy then yes, leave at once.
 
Quick questions:
If I transfer out and complete the courses needed for medical school in 3 years, I can still apply to medical school during my third year right?
Will I have to spend an extra semester or so in order to get my bachelor's degree or will they give me at the end of my third year?
 
cdcd67 said:
Quick questions:
If I transfer out and complete the courses needed for medical school in 3 years, I can still apply to medical school during my third year right?
Will I have to spend an extra semester or so in order to get my bachelor's degree or will they give me at the end of my third year?
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Yes, you can receive your degree in three years if you complete all of the requirements.
 
As a BS/DO you are not guaranteed admission into NYCOM even with the 26, 3.5, and 3.3. (you can ask Hummel if you need reassuranace of this). You are better off going to a CUNY and taking the regular route. 1. you will be in less debt 2. you need to study just as hard for your MCAT if you still want to go to NYCOM so it doesn't matter 3. you could have gone to the BS/DO program at one of the SUNY's and 4. You are not guaranteed admission into NYCOM as BS/DO.

PM me if you have any questions...I opted out of the program after completeing all 3 years, even though I had the requirments and the interview.
 
Would it look bad if I transfer to Queens College? My friends tell me that instead of CUNY colleges, SUNY would be better...
 
cdcd67 said:
Would it look bad if I transfer to Queens College? My friends tell me that instead of CUNY colleges, SUNY would be better...
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Queens college actually has a pretty decent materials science department, but yeah you might find better facilities depending on which suny you look at. Check out Stony brook since you'd still be on long island. PM me if you have any questions about it.
 
oh Stony Brook's deadline just passed..November 1...damn
 
So I have been searching a little, and I found 4 colleges whose deadlines haven't passed yet:
St. Thomas Aquinas College
St. John's University
University at Albany (SUNY)
St. Joseph's College

Anybody has any recommendations on which one is good and which I definitely shouldn't consider?

Thank You.
 
Hey guys, I'm a non trad actually planning on transfering to NYIT for the premed program.

How are the classes at NYIT? are they much harder?
 
The teachers aren't so great at NYIT. I wouldn't transfer there for pre-med.
 
cdcd67 said:
So I have been searching a little, and I found 4 colleges whose deadlines haven't passed yet:
St. Thomas Aquinas College
St. John's University
University at Albany (SUNY)
St. Joseph's College

Anybody has any recommendations on which one is good and which I definitely shouldn't consider?

Thank You.
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All I know about those is albany is supposed to be a party school 👍
 
I wanted to ask one BIG question to everyone: Is NYCOM worth it? (meaning is it worth it to go throught NYIT for NYCOM, is it a really good med school?
 
cdcd67 said:
So I have been searching a little, and I found 4 colleges whose deadlines haven't passed yet:
St. Thomas Aquinas College
St. John's University
University at Albany (SUNY)
St. Joseph's College

Anybody has any recommendations on which one is good and which I definitely shouldn't consider?

Thank You.
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st johns is really expensive..
and regarding a pervious post.. queens college is 4,000 a year not 2,000. it's good school, with a great science department.
 
Your right...st. johns is really expensive....ill stick with my original choice, Queens College

btw...medical schools won't look down at me will they because I switched from NYIT to Queens College?
(because imagine I get an interview at NYCOM, they will ask me why I dropped out of such a program to Queens College....it would be fine if I said it is because I wasn't happy with the education at NYIT right?)
 
Hi, i was hoping how things turned out for you after transferring out of the bs/do program bc i'm in the same boat as you. i want to transfer to brooklyn college and my main reasoning is that i'm miserable at nyit. I actually didn't make the gpa requirement but they changed the policy and now i'm on probation. I'm a first year student and idk what to do. i feel like i should transfer bc if i didn't make the gpa requirement the first semester which is supposed to be the easiest than how can i make it th enext semester! Please help me!!
 
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