To All Those About To Jump On the Bandwagon

Nickelpennykid · Oct 13, 2006

Have any of the other Pre-Osteo frequent flyers noticed a signifigant increase in the amount of traffic over on this side after the MCAT release last night. Jump on the bandwagon boys and girls, plenty of room over here haha.

Thoughts, comments?

HemaOncoDoc · Oct 13, 2006

Nickelpennykid said:
Have any of the other Pre-Osteo frequent flyers noticed a signifigant increase in the amount of traffic over on this side after the MCAT release last night. Jump on the bandwagon boys and girls, plenty of room over here haha.

Thoughts, comments?

It's expected. They usually come in different groups; the ones who did really well, the ones that did how they expected, the ones who didn't do so well.

Hopefully many more people did exceptionally well!

NjD00 · Oct 13, 2006

Nickelpennykid said:
Have any of the other Pre-Osteo frequent flyers noticed a signifigant increase in the amount of traffic over on this side after the MCAT release last night. Jump on the bandwagon boys and girls, plenty of room over here haha.

Thoughts, comments?

You meant people switching to "pre-osteo" from pre-allo after getting their not-as-high-as-hoped scores?

Hardbody · Oct 13, 2006

NjD00 said:
You meant people switching to "pre-osteo" from pre-allo after getting their not-as-high-as-hoped scores?

I believe the OP did, all the people that were DO bashing a few months ago, until they were swiftly humbled by the beast. You know, the guy/gal that studied for like 1,000 hours with no job that was certain they would be one of the few to get a 45 MCAT.

LWestenhofer · Oct 13, 2006

I agree- where did everyone come from?

I hope people are not ignorantly flopping to DO just because of MCAT scores- as I think is happening. My feelings are, if you are not genuinely interested in going to a DO school, that is, you would attend an allopathic school instead of an osteopathic school if accepted, don't ask questions about osteopathy or post to ask your chances for admission into a school.

I am starting to understand why interviewers ask you why do you want to be a DO, and what do you know about osteopathy questions at every interview.

Okay, enough of a rant, I will get of my soapbox now...

harrypotter · Oct 13, 2006

Is it really that awful for people to jump the bandwagon? I understand ppl will get hot under the collar, but I bet there are tons of ppl who started off DO with low expectations and graduated as an elightened DO.

*shrugs*

For me, I just want to be a doctor. I'm thankful that I still have a good chance of that because of osteopathic medicine.

Not trying to put anyone's posts down. Just wanted to throw in another viewpoint. 🙂

Dr JPH · Oct 13, 2006

Nickelpennykid said:
Have any of the other Pre-Osteo frequent flyers noticed a signifigant increase in the amount of traffic over on this side after the MCAT release last night. Jump on the bandwagon boys and girls, plenty of room over here haha.

Thoughts, comments?

Happens every year. Come August they will be your classmate. Come October they will be posting in the Osteo forum about how OMM is a waste of time and is all nonsense. 2 years later they are complaining about how they have to explain to people on rotations what a DO is. 2 years after that they whine about not being able to get a good residency program and how the AOA isnt "working for them". And after all of that they pay a DO student $100/hour to tutor them in OMM so they can pass their OMM boards.

Circle of life. Dont try to fight it. Just let it happen and enjoy the show. 🙂

TerpDO · Oct 14, 2006

JPHazelton said:
And after all of that they pay a DO student $100/hour to tutor them in OMM so they can pass their OMM boards.
🙂

Haven't heard that one before, I hope I will be on the receiving end of the $100/hr. when I enter the circle. 😀 EXCELLENT POST BTW

PassingDays11 · Oct 14, 2006

I agree that it is pretty annoying to read some of the posts lately by those who previously thought they were too good for osteopathy but are now scrambling to save their "dream." While in the perfect world all people would be in the exact situation that they would like to be, the fact is many people settle for less to reach goals that they have set for themselves. I can't blame students who didn't score as well as they wanted on the MCAT for trying to find an "alternate" route, but I also can't blame DO Ad Coms for trying to verify applicants' desire to subscribe to the osteopathic philosophy. I just pray that they don't get in over a student that is qualified and has a real desire to be a DO --- like me :laugh:

Oculus Sinistra · Oct 14, 2006

harrypotter said:
Is it really that awful for people to jump the bandwagon? I understand ppl will get hot under the collar, but I bet there are tons of ppl who started off DO with low expectations and graduated as an elightened DO.

I also don't think it's a big deal.

In the end, they're going to be the same doctor they would have been (caring/apathetic/mean/kind, etc) regardless of whether they went to an MD school or a DO school.

PassingDays11 · Oct 14, 2006

Oculus Sinistra said:
I also don't think it's a big deal.

In the end, they're going to be the same doctor they would have been (caring/apathetic/mean/kind, etc) regardless of whether they went to an MD school or a DO school.

I agree with you on the end result. However, as a hopeful osteopathic student I know that I would like to be surrounded by classmates that truly want to be where they are. Think what a difference attitude can make. I have seen it many times and would therefore like to be a member of a positive group.

Their personality will most likely remain unchanged as doctors, true. Yet I must have concern about the validity of their intentions since I will be a part of their "team."

Oculus Sinistra · Oct 14, 2006

PassingDays11 said:
I agree with you on the end result. However, as a hopeful osteopathic student I know that I would like to be surrounded by classmates that truly want to be where they are. Think what a difference attitude can make. I have seen it many times and would therefore like to be a member of a positive group.

Their personality will most likely remain unchanged as doctors, true. Yet I must have concern about the validity of their intentions since I will be a part of their "team."

I don't think any DO school these days has an entire class where everyone was adamant about being a DO. I do, however, think there will be an entire class of being who are adamant about being a doctor, so for all intents and purposes it will be the same. Even if they don't like OMM, "when in Rome", you know?

PassingDays11 · Oct 14, 2006

Oculus Sinistra said:
I don't think any DO school these days has an entire class where everyone was adamant about being a DO. I do, however, think there will be an entire class of being who are adamant about being a doctor, so for all intents and purposes it will be the same. Even if they don't like OMM, "when in Rome", you know?

I understand that they want to be doctors. That is a given (unless they're extremely sick and enjoy the pain and suffering that is the pre-med process). I also realize that not all will truly desire to be DO's or practice OMT. But you won't convince me to become apathetic toward the attitudes of those around me or that they don't have influence on the program.

spicedmanna · Oct 14, 2006

PassingDays11 said:
I agree with you on the end result. However, as a hopeful osteopathic student I know that I would like to be surrounded by classmates that truly want to be where they are. Think what a difference attitude can make. I have seen it many times and would therefore like to be a member of a positive group.

Their personality will most likely remain unchanged as doctors, true. Yet I must have concern about the validity of their intentions since I will be a part of their "team."

Well, some good points here. Keep in mind, however, there are those of us that just want to be medical doctors and can deeply appreciate both philosophies without a problem; it isn't a question of either/or. Some people are simply open to learning how to heal people, regardless of what the outside shell looks like. At the end of the day, DO's and MD's do the same thing (hopefully): they are strong advocates for the wellbeing and health of the pt. It's true that the philosophy is somewhat different in each case, but they are in no way mutually exclusive, I think.

It's true that I am considering DO a little later in the process, but it's been in the back of my mind for some time now. I've never denigrated osteopathic medicine. In fact, osteopathy is actually more congruent with my practices of the last 10 years than allopathy. I just needed a good kick in the groin to set me in the right direction. I've been a wellness instructor and coach for many years now, and I pretty much use the whole-body/being approach in every intervention I make as a professional. Some of techniques I already use were pioneered by DO's (spinal-flex breathing, etc). I just don't know any DO's and know plenty of MD's (i.e., never shadowed a DO), so I went allopathic initially, feeling that it really didn't matter at the end because I bring my knowledge of holistic health with me where ever I go.

And now I find myself on the precipice of applying to osteopathic schools. I wish I had started earlier, but c'est la vie. It's not how you come it, but that you come with a willing heart.

There's enough room for all of us, I'd like to think. 😀

Oculus Sinistra · Oct 14, 2006

PassingDays11 said:
But you won't convince me to become apathetic toward the attitudes of those around me or that they don't have influence on the program.

Okay, that's fine, but I didn't intend to convince you of anything.

I know where you're coming from and I agree with it on principle -- but I also know that regardless of principle, the dissent is going to be present in every DO class for every year whether true-blue DO students want it to be there or not. That's all I'm saying.

I don't think people should get too involved with the attitudes of the people around you because it's just going to unnecessarily stress you out. I just think it's counterproductive.

And I also don't think it really influences the program unless it's PBL-based and someone isn't holding up their end of the deal.

PassingDays11 · Oct 14, 2006

Oculus Sinistra said:
Okay, that's fine, but I didn't intend to convince you of anything.

I know where you're coming from and I agree with it on principle -- but I also know that regardless of principle, the dissent is going to be present in every DO class for every year whether true-blue DO students want it to be there or not. That's all I'm saying.

I don't think people should get too involved with the attitudes of the people around you because it's just going to unnecessarily stress you out. I just think it's counterproductive.

And I also don't think it really influences the program unless it's PBL-based and someone isn't holding up their end of the deal.

Alright. I feel ya' oculus sinistra (by the way, does that just mean left eye?). You can't deny the fact that it would be nice to work with people who feel the same way you do. That's my point. Not denying your points about dissension.

I gotta go to bed. This application process is driving me up the wall!!!😛

Oculus Sinistra · Oct 14, 2006

PassingDays11 said:
Alright. I feel ya' oculus sinistra (by the way, does that just mean left eye?). You can't deny the fact that it would be nice to work with people who feel the same way you do. That's my point. Not denying your points about dissension.

I gotta go to bed. This application process is driving me up the wall!!!😛

Oculus Sinistra = OS = left eye, yes. But I chose it because I thought it was so interesting that someone put the word "sinister" in an anatomical term.

You're right. I don't deny that if I went to a DO school, I would want to be around people who wanted to be there. I already go to an undergrad where a lot of people jump ship after two years.

But personally, I'm most interested in attending a medical school where people want to be social (i.e. go have dinner together in groups of five, etc), want to study together, don't condescend about each other's intelligence, etc.

the1doc · Oct 14, 2006

JPHazelton said:
Happens every year. Come August they will be your classmate. Come October they will be posting in the Osteo forum about how OMM is a waste of time and is all nonsense. 2 years later they are complaining about how they have to explain to people on rotations what a DO is. 2 years after that they whine about not being able to get a good residency program and how the AOA isnt "working for them". And after all of that they pay a DO student $100/hour to tutor them in OMM so they can pass their OMM boards.

Circle of life. Dont try to fight it. Just let it happen and enjoy the show. 🙂

Alternatively....they will do relatively well on the MCAT, apply to both allo and osteo schools, get accepted into two allo schools, choose an osteo school because of location and repuation, matriculate with an open mind about OMM, and decide after a couple of years that they've had enough of the OMM sh#t. (Me)

This realization comes for some as they perform the pedal pump on their partners, wondering how this quackery ever made its way into the OMM curriculum.

OR, they could be sitting in a dark quiet room with nearly 200 other medical students, fingers in the vault hold, trying to palpate the CRI, wondering when the OMM faculty will just bring out the damn punch so everyone can drink it, fall to sleep, and fly away on the Hale-Bopp Comet.

But fortunately, there are a few students who keep up the enthusiasm for OMM. They like it so much that they join the OMM cult, put a picture of A.T. Still on their wall (or on SDN), and crap their pants every time a DO student is critical of OMM or the AOA. I guess I missed out when they had us sign the "OMM/AOA lapdog" contract at orientation. Shucks.

MossPoh · Oct 14, 2006

Honestly. I have met ONE person my entire life that has said "I want to be a DO!" from the beginning...and the reason was because his dad was a DO. I really believe the philosphy part is a load of crap anymore. I am treating them both as medical schools and feel that I can take myself wherever I want now, whether it is md or do. Just letters to me.....but if any of you say that you wanted to be a DO your entire life...well you are full of crap or at least the odds are against you. This isn't knocking DO but yea...I was raised to be against it at first. Osteopathic schools used to be ****holes that trained inferior doctors.....wasn't till the last 20 years or so they began turning out real docs

side note. A few of my top choices are osteopathic now so don't think I'm hating on it..........

MossPoh · Oct 14, 2006

Oculus Sinistra said:
Oculus Sinistra = OS = left eye, yes. But I chose it because I thought it was so interesting that someone put the word "sinister" in an anatomical term.

You're right. I don't deny that if I went to a DO school, I would want to be around people who wanted to be there. I already go to an undergrad where a lot of people jump ship after two years.

But personally, I'm most interested in attending a medical school where people want to be social (i.e. go have dinner together in groups of five, etc), want to study together, don't condescend about each other's intelligence, etc.

Yea...that is a nice goal. I want a fairly laid back place.....but I also want a school where we push each other to be better. I like a little bit of competition. I hate losing with a passion so anything that forces me to suck it up and win will usually do. 😛

Boner · Oct 14, 2006

Here's my two cents on the issue:
Like JPH said, this happens every year (I haven't experienced multiple cycles, but it just seems logical this would happen). But the thing is, those who have been interested in osteopathic medicine from the get go have already applied and are already interviewing. Those applicants who are now jumping on the proverbial bandwagon will just be filling out AACOMAS now, which means they won't interview until after X-mas, which means adcoms will be a lot more selective since they've already started to fill up their respective entering classes.
With regards to the idea of having a class of peers who are really into osteopathy and OMM, I feel like as the years go on, more and more applicants apply solely to DO programs or at least are really open to the osteopathic philosophy. I have gone on five interviews so far and probably 50% of interviewees I've encountered apply DO only, 25% apply broadly DO and to their respective MD state school for tuition reasons, and the other 25% apply to a broad mix of DO and MD programs. I don't doubt that the vast majority of my future classmates will be excited about attending osteopathic medical school.

scpod · Oct 14, 2006

MossPoh said:
Yea...that is a nice goal. I want a fairly laid back place.....but I also want a school where we push each other to be better. I like a little bit of competition. I hate losing with a passion so anything that forces me to suck it up and win will usually do. 😛

You might say that now, but I'll lay odds that your attitude changes once you are in. After the first Anatomy exam, when the people who made all A's in undergrad had scores ranging from 42 to 97, it was no longer about competition-- it was about survival. I was always the most competitive person you ever saw. I wanted a perfect score, and if it wasn't 100, it was OK as long as I had the highest score. Yet, things change in med school because it really is sooooooooo different. People who have had easy A's all of their lives are struggling just to pass. So...you begin to depend on your classmates to help you in areas where you are weak. There's one gunner in the class (of 160) now and everyone looks at her like she's an idiot. Everyone helps everyone else out now because we are all fighting against the same thing-- together.

You might feel like having the best grades and being on top now is a great feeling, but being a part of a huge extended family, and having help there every time you turn around is absolutely wonderful. It's not a question of pushing each other to be better because of competition-- because that really only helps a very few people-- it's more of everybody's in the same boat, so let's ride this thing together. If it starts to sink...then we'll swim together too. To me, that's a hell of a lot better.

Kuba · Oct 14, 2006

MossPoh said:
Honestly. I have met ONE person my entire life that has said "I want to be a DO!" from the beginning...and the reason was because his dad was a DO. I really believe the philosphy part is a load of crap anymore. I am treating them both as medical schools and feel that I can take myself wherever I want now, whether it is md or do. Just letters to me.....but if any of you say that you wanted to be a DO your entire life...well you are full of crap or at least the odds are against you. This isn't knocking DO but yea...I was raised to be against it at first. Osteopathic schools used to be ****holes that trained inferior doctors.....wasn't till the last 20 years or so they began turning out real docs

side note. A few of my top choices are osteopathic now so don't think I'm hating on it..........

a week ago I would agree with you. But at my interview I would say 3/11 were going DO from the begininng. And i don't believe they were full of it. Granted 2 of them had DO parents.

Kuba · Oct 14, 2006

On another note, all these "what are my chances" threads need to be consolidated.

scpod · Oct 14, 2006

DRKUBA said:
On another note, all these "what are my chances" threads need to be consolidated.

Yes, and http://whataremychances.net is not yet taken. I'd be willing to contribute to that one if all the threads could be moved there. Just imagine...a single place to have a big old "what are my chances?" party. It'd be like heaven.

exigente chica · Oct 14, 2006

PassingDays11 said:
I agree with you on the end result. However, as a hopeful osteopathic student I know that I would like to be surrounded by classmates that truly want to be where they are. Think what a difference attitude can make. I have seen it many times and would therefore like to be a member of a positive group.

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I agree. I really love the DO philosophy and am applying to mostly DO schools..only a few MD..because I want to stay in state. But If accepted to DO, I would attend and cancel my apps at the MD schools. DO really fits with my lifstyle an personality..

I love DO😍

mshheaddoc · Oct 14, 2006

DRKUBA said:
On another note, all these "what are my chances" threads need to be consolidated.

Thread started but consolidation of threads is out of my power .... 😀 So direct people to the thread and if you see anymore threads, report it and ask it to be moved into the thread.

mshheaddoc · Oct 14, 2006

Also I think people freak out more right after MCAT so forum traffic increases overall and maybe not that people are "jumping" on the bandwagon of DO 🙂 Although I'm not niave to see that this doesn't happen. But hey, we can all hope for one day of harmony between forums 😛

Dr JPH · Oct 14, 2006

the1doc said:
Alternatively....they will do relatively well on the MCAT, apply to both allo and osteo schools, get accepted into two allo schools, choose an osteo school because of location and repuation, matriculate with an open mind about OMM, and decide after a couple of years that they've had enough of the OMM sh#t. (Me)

This realization comes for some as they perform the pedal pump on their partners, wondering how this quackery ever made its way into the OMM curriculum.

OR, they could be sitting in a dark quiet room with nearly 200 other medical students, fingers in the vault hold, trying to palpate the CRI, wondering when the OMM faculty will just bring out the damn punch so everyone can drink it, fall to sleep, and fly away on the Hale-Bopp Comet.

But fortunately, there are a few students who keep up the enthusiasm for OMM. They like it so much that they join the OMM cult, put a picture of A.T. Still on their wall (or on SDN), and crap their pants every time a DO student is critical of OMM or the AOA. I guess I missed out when they had us sign the "OMM/AOA lapdog" contract at orientation. Shucks.

Well, looks like you made the wrong decision then. Im not the one who will have to live with thoughts of being inferior for the rest of my life.

I dont believe in cranial one bit, but if promoting it makes you uncomfortable and gives MDs a reason to laugh at you then I will gladly start fixing SBS compressions all throughout the world.

🙄

See you in OMM lab.

the1doc · Oct 14, 2006

JPHazelton said:
Well, looks like you made the wrong decision then. Im not the one who will have to live with thoughts of being inferior for the rest of my life.

I dont believe in cranial one bit, but if promoting it makes you uncomfortable and gives MDs a reason to laugh at you then I will gladly start fixing SBS compressions all throughout the world.

🙄

See you in OMM lab.

????
I don't remember saying that I would have to "live with thoughts of being inferior for the rest of my life." Previous sarcasm aside, I realize that not every student who enjoys OMM is part of the "cult." Likewise, not every student who has issues with OMM feels inferior as a result.

For the love of God, when will osteopathic medical students be able to voice concerns about OMM curriculum and the AOA without being lumped into the category of "MD wannabies?"

Now go say your nightly prayers to Lord A.T. Still. Don't forget to mention St. Viola Fymann.

Kuba · Oct 14, 2006

the1doc said:
For the love of God, when will osteopathic medical students be able to voice concerns about OMM curriculum and the AOA without being lumped into the category of "MD wannabies?"

considering OMM is the only real difference...

Dr JPH · Oct 14, 2006

the1doc said:
For the love of God, when will osteopathic medical students be able to voice concerns about OMM curriculum and the AOA without being lumped into the category of "MD wannabies?"

Forgive me. I thought when you made your Kool-Aid comment you were giving up all hopes of an intelligent debate.

the1doc · Oct 15, 2006

scpod said:
Maybe when you stop whining like f'n crybabies, people will take you seriously.

This is coming from the first-year brain who claims, "I was always the most competitive person you ever saw." You need to revisit your high school English teacher.

I don't know if you're the most intelligent person "I ever saw," but you might use the term "f'n" more than anyone I've ever seen. You're making LECOM proud. I'm sure.

the1doc · Oct 15, 2006

DRKUBA said:
considering OMM is the only real difference...

The problem with your assumption is that OMS/DOs who have issues with OMM curriculum are also opposed to all OMM. That usually isn't the case. Therefore, just because an osteopathic medical student disagrees with some aspects of OMM or the AOA, he/she doesn't want to be an MD.

the1doc · Oct 15, 2006

JPHazelton said:
Forgive me. I thought when you made your Kool-Aid comment you were giving up all hopes of an intelligent debate.

Forgive me. I thought when you made Andrew Still your avatar, you worshipped him.

Dr JPH · Oct 15, 2006

the1doc said:
Forgive me. I thought when you made Andrew Still your avatar, you worshipped him.

Worship? Strong word I suppose. Respect him as a pioneer? Yes. Respect him as someone who decided to at least try something different at a time when nothing was working? Yes.

Worship? No.

If your basis for determining what sort of icons people hold in high regard is by looking at their avatar then you are going to be mislead many times over. Use your desire for argument and witty comebacks for good...take that energy and put it into a constructive critique of OMM or of your DO education. Take that drive and use it to better the education for future DO students.

Spending your time online making ridiculous comments about cults and worshipping avatars is stupid. It doesnt highlight the level of maturity that a future physician should have and it likely doesnt represent the intelligence you must have...afterall you are a medical student who hopefully does well in school.

When you are ready to have an intellectual conversation I will be here.

See some of you in Vegas this week. I will return to SDN next week with a better tan and a lot less money.

scpod · Oct 15, 2006

the1doc said:
I don't know if you're the most intelligent person "I ever saw," but you might use the term "f'n" more than anyone I've ever seen. You're making LECOM proud. I'm sure.

Actually, I've never used it. However, I would recommend that you do not leave your laptop unattended when you are logged onto SDN because there are people who think using it is cool. Don't know yet if I have deleted ALL of the offensive posts, but I apologise. 😳

the1doc · Oct 15, 2006

"Worship? Strong word I suppose. Respect him as a pioneer? Yes. Respect him as someone who decided to at least try something different at a time when nothing was working? Yes."

You're right. Nothing seemed to be working at the time. EXCEPT:

Scientists of the 19th century who made more important contributions to medicine than a.t. still include:

Pasteur (pasteurization/germ theory/rabies vaccine)
Rontgen (x-ray)
Einthoven (ECG)
Lister (antiseptics)
Laennec (stethoscope)
Alexander Wood (hypodermic syringe)
Koch (bacteriology)
Bernard, Mendel, Semmelweis....and on and on and on.....

Yet you choose A.T. Still as your avatar.

"Worship? No."

Obnoxious when people jump to ridiculous conclusions based on one small thing, isn't it? It reminds me of the time that the hardcore OMM students jumped to all types of inaccurate conclusions just because I criticize some aspects of osteopathic medicine today.

"If your basis for determining what sort of icons people hold in high regard is by looking at their avatar then you are going to be mislead many times over."

I'm doing it to make a point. I'm hoping that it gets through, but in your case, it seems to be taking some time. I'm starting to wonder if your failure to understand is more a reflection of your intelligence than it is of my point-making ability. Please see my previous paragraph to see what the point is. Now for the violins....

"Use your desire for argument and witty comebacks for good...take that energy and put it into a constructive critique of OMM or of your DO education. Take that drive and use it to better the education for future DO students."

That was beautiful. It moved me - really.

Although you may not value my motives as much as you value yours, I am taking my "drive" to better the education for DO students. The current OMM curriculum and philosophy of the AOA only represents a minority of the DO students and DOs out there. There is no good excuse for the fact that cranial and other shady techniques continue to be emphasized in curriculum, on boards, and in osteopathic literature. Yet they are. Students and DOs have been apathetic and/or afraid to confront this problem for far too long. I'm trying not to continue the legacy of apathy. Yet every time I make a comment on SDN, I have the OMM extremists labeling me as an "MD wannabe." That is when I start making the "witty" comebacks that you referred to.

"Spending your time online making ridiculous comments about cults and worshipping avatars is stupid. It doesnt highlight the level of maturity that a future physician should have and it likely doesnt represent the intelligence you must have...afterall you are a medical student who hopefully does well in school."

LOL. And you've been the model of "intelligent" and "mature" behavior on SDN? No. Definitely not. You've gone out of your way to make quick and often inaccurate judgments about DO students who speak critically of OMM. You spend more time playing OMM lapdog than discussing the issues.

"When you are ready to have an intellectual conversation I will be here."

I've tried to have intelligent conversations with you more than once on SDN. You seem incapable.

MDstudent101 · Oct 16, 2006

To the OP this is very true many ppl are jumping on the band wagon!! But as I like to see it if you want to be Physician it doesn't matter if it's D.O. or M.D. after your name as long as you become one.... So if they want to jump on the band wagon let'em, cuz those are the ppl that will be complaining the most in Med. School. But then again Tsh.. I dont care as long as I get accepted somewhere......😀 !!!!!

NjD00 · Oct 16, 2006

These apologies obviously take some time to formulate....when do you guys have time to study with all this banter?😉

DropkickMurphy · Oct 16, 2006

you would attend an allopathic school instead of an osteopathic school if accepted

That's me and 99% of other premeds.

DropkickMurphy · Oct 16, 2006

JPHazelton said:
Forgive me. I thought when you made your Kool-Aid comment you were giving up all hopes of an intelligent debate.

By the way, when the Heaven's Gate people offed themselves it was with pudding laced with phenobarbital, not cyanide laced KoolAid which was the Jonestown incident.

Depakote · Oct 16, 2006

DropkickMurphy said:
By the way, when the Heaven's Gate people offed themselves it was with pudding laced with phenobarbital, not cyanide laced KoolAid which was the Jonestown incident.

Never challeng Dropkick Murphy to a game of Obscure Suicide Trivial Pursuit.

DropkickMurphy · Oct 16, 2006

An excellent suggestion....

Nickelpennykid · Oct 16, 2006

All of this talk of suicide makes me want to be a dentist.

the1doc · Oct 16, 2006

DropkickMurphy said:
By the way, when the Heaven's Gate people offed themselves it was with pudding laced with phenobarbital, not cyanide laced KoolAid which was the Jonestown incident.

Damn. Always getting my suicidal cult stories mixed up. Let's just hope they don't show up on boards.

the1doc · Oct 16, 2006

CptStarbuck said:
Wow dude, you need to take a chill pill and learn how to take difference of opinions with stride my friend and quit the personal vendettas.

So let's drop it now shall we? You have your opinion and JPHazelton ... your both starting to look like asses over this "thread hijack" ok?

Totally dude. I love chill pills. Sweet. Now let's get back to the novel discussion of whether or not premeds apply to DO schools after getting rejected from MD schools. I'm on the edge of my seat, waiting for someone to state the obvious one more time. :laugh:

DropkickMurphy · Oct 16, 2006

Damn. Always getting my suicidal cult stories mixed up. Let's just hope they don't show up on boards.

DropkickMurphy · Oct 16, 2006

You like chill pills eh?

Kuba · Oct 17, 2006

DropkickMurphy said:
That's me and 99% of other premeds.

I thought so too. But I changed my mind when I realized that I would probably go to Nova or UMDNJ over a few MD school I applied to.. and I am certainly not the most exposed to osteopathy so I bet that more than 1% would do that. However, it may be close to 1% of people who applied both MD and DO.

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